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* Timestamp display behavior in timeline view
@ 2010-12-25 15:13 Alex Huang
  2011-02-11 10:37 ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Alex Huang @ 2010-12-25 15:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

I am trying out the timeline view in 7.4 and am wondering whether this 
is expected behavior:

0. create entries with timestamps [1]
1. M-x org-agenda
2. L (Timeline for current buffer)
3. current behavior:
   ( + is unsurprising, ! is surprising, ? is not sure whether to be 
surprised)
   + entries without time information not displayed
   + timestamps without text not displayed
   ! entries with timestamps display the text, but not the timestamp
   + timestamp ranges with text displayed as-is
   ? timestamp ranges without text are displayed as-is
   ? cycling TODO state with "t" in the agenda view causes non-displayed 
timestamp to appear
   ? cycling out of TODO again keeps the timestamp visible

I can understand that TODO will want to read the timestamp information 
out, but since ranges without text appear, but single timestamps don't, 
maybe there is something unexpected here. I haven't found it mentioned 
anywhere yet in my searches, nor have I looked at the code. If this can 
be modified via the source or a configuration, I'd greatly appreciate 
some advice.

Thanks, and happy holidays!

[1] contents used for testing (this behavior is observed in both stock 
7.4 from the "stable" archive, and from git clone as of Thursday)

* no date

* <2010-12-25 Sat>

* <2010-12-25 Sat 13:00> 13PM event to confuse agenda

* <2010-12-25 Sat 12:00> 12PM event

* inbetween <2010-12-25 Sat 12:30> inbetween

* <2010-12-25 Sat 14:30> test 14.5

* <2010-12-25 Sat 15:30>-<2010-12-25 Sat 15:40>

* <2010-12-25 Sat 14:30>-<2010-12-25 Sat 14:40> range 1

* TODO <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40>-<2010-12-25 Sat 14:50> range with todo

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• * Re: Timestamp display behavior in timeline view
    2010-12-25 15:13 Timestamp display behavior in timeline view Alex Huang
  @ 2011-02-11 10:37 ` Bastien
    2011-02-11 18:24   ` Sébastien Vauban
    2011-02-11 18:32   ` Bernt Hansen
    0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
  From: Bastien @ 2011-02-11 10:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
    To: Alex Huang; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
  
  Hi Alex,
  
  Alex Huang <axh@MIT.EDU> writes:
  
  > 3. current behavior:
  >   ( + is unsurprising, ! is surprising, ? is not sure whether to be
  > surprised)
  >   + entries without time information not displayed
  >   + timestamps without text not displayed
  >   ! entries with timestamps display the text, but not the timestamp
  
  You used this:
  
  * TODO <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40>-<2010-12-25 Sat 14:50> range with todo
  
  which looks weird.
  
  Better to put the timestamp/range on the next line:
  
  * TODO range with todo
    <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40>-<2010-12-25 Sat 14:50>
  
  You won't get the surprising results you see.
  
  HTH,
  
  -- 
   Bastien
  
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• • * Re: Timestamp display behavior in timeline view
      2011-02-11 10:37 ` Bastien
    @ 2011-02-11 18:24   ` Sébastien Vauban
      2011-02-11 18:32   ` Bernt Hansen
      1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
    From: Sébastien Vauban @ 2011-02-11 18:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
      To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ
    
    Hi Bastien,
    
    Bastien wrote:
    > You used this:
    >
    > * TODO <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40>-<2010-12-25 Sat 14:50> range with todo
    >
    > which looks weird.
    >
    > Better to put the timestamp/range on the next line:
    >
    > * TODO range with todo
    >   <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40>-<2010-12-25 Sat 14:50>
    >
    > You won't get the surprising results you see.
    
    Isn't it -- (two dashes) for the range purpose?
    
    Best regards,
      Seb
    
    -- 
    Sébastien Vauban
    
    
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  • * Re: Timestamp display behavior in timeline view
      2011-02-11 10:37 ` Bastien
      2011-02-11 18:24   ` Sébastien Vauban
    @ 2011-02-11 18:32   ` Bernt Hansen
      2011-02-11 18:46     ` Bastien
      1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
    From: Bernt Hansen @ 2011-02-11 18:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
      To: Bastien; +Cc: Alex Huang, emacs-orgmode
    
    Bastien <bastien.guerry@wikimedia.fr> writes:
    
    > Hi Alex,
    >
    > Alex Huang <axh@MIT.EDU> writes:
    >
    >> 3. current behavior:
    >>   ( + is unsurprising, ! is surprising, ? is not sure whether to be
    >> surprised)
    >>   + entries without time information not displayed
    >>   + timestamps without text not displayed
    >>   ! entries with timestamps display the text, but not the timestamp
    >
    > You used this:
    >
    > * TODO <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40>-<2010-12-25 Sat 14:50> range with todo
    >
    > which looks weird.
    >
    > Better to put the timestamp/range on the next line:
    >
    > * TODO range with todo
    >   <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40>-<2010-12-25 Sat 14:50>
    
    Shouldn't these timestamps have two dashes between them?
       <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40>--<2010-12-25 Sat 14:50>
    or
       <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40-14:50>
    
    ?
    
    -Bernt
    
    >
    > You won't get the surprising results you see.
    >
    > HTH,
    
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  • • * Re: Timestamp display behavior in timeline view
        2011-02-11 18:32   ` Bernt Hansen
      @ 2011-02-11 18:46     ` Bastien
        0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
      From: Bastien @ 2011-02-11 18:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
        To: Bernt Hansen; +Cc: Alex Huang, emacs-orgmode
      
      Hi Bernt,
      
      Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> writes:
      
      >> * TODO range with todo
      >>   <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40>-<2010-12-25 Sat 14:50>
      >
      > Shouldn't these timestamps have two dashes between them?
      >    <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40>--<2010-12-25 Sat 14:50>
      > or
      >    <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40-14:50>
      
      The manual advertize two dashes but both work fine here.
      
      I'm myself using two dashes, I just copied the example of 
      the OP too hastly.
      
      -- 
       Bastien
      
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