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* Timestamp display behavior in timeline view
@ 2010-12-25 15:13 Alex Huang
  2011-02-11 10:37 ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Alex Huang @ 2010-12-25 15:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

I am trying out the timeline view in 7.4 and am wondering whether this 
is expected behavior:

0. create entries with timestamps [1]
1. M-x org-agenda
2. L (Timeline for current buffer)
3. current behavior:
   ( + is unsurprising, ! is surprising, ? is not sure whether to be 
surprised)
   + entries without time information not displayed
   + timestamps without text not displayed
   ! entries with timestamps display the text, but not the timestamp
   + timestamp ranges with text displayed as-is
   ? timestamp ranges without text are displayed as-is
   ? cycling TODO state with "t" in the agenda view causes non-displayed 
timestamp to appear
   ? cycling out of TODO again keeps the timestamp visible

I can understand that TODO will want to read the timestamp information 
out, but since ranges without text appear, but single timestamps don't, 
maybe there is something unexpected here. I haven't found it mentioned 
anywhere yet in my searches, nor have I looked at the code. If this can 
be modified via the source or a configuration, I'd greatly appreciate 
some advice.

Thanks, and happy holidays!

[1] contents used for testing (this behavior is observed in both stock 
7.4 from the "stable" archive, and from git clone as of Thursday)

* no date

* <2010-12-25 Sat>

* <2010-12-25 Sat 13:00> 13PM event to confuse agenda

* <2010-12-25 Sat 12:00> 12PM event

* inbetween <2010-12-25 Sat 12:30> inbetween

* <2010-12-25 Sat 14:30> test 14.5

* <2010-12-25 Sat 15:30>-<2010-12-25 Sat 15:40>

* <2010-12-25 Sat 14:30>-<2010-12-25 Sat 14:40> range 1

* TODO <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40>-<2010-12-25 Sat 14:50> range with todo

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* Re: Timestamp display behavior in timeline view
  2010-12-25 15:13 Timestamp display behavior in timeline view Alex Huang
@ 2011-02-11 10:37 ` Bastien
  2011-02-11 18:24   ` Sébastien Vauban
  2011-02-11 18:32   ` Bernt Hansen
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2011-02-11 10:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alex Huang; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi Alex,

Alex Huang <axh@MIT.EDU> writes:

> 3. current behavior:
>   ( + is unsurprising, ! is surprising, ? is not sure whether to be
> surprised)
>   + entries without time information not displayed
>   + timestamps without text not displayed
>   ! entries with timestamps display the text, but not the timestamp

You used this:

* TODO <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40>-<2010-12-25 Sat 14:50> range with todo

which looks weird.

Better to put the timestamp/range on the next line:

* TODO range with todo
  <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40>-<2010-12-25 Sat 14:50>

You won't get the surprising results you see.

HTH,

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: Timestamp display behavior in timeline view
  2011-02-11 10:37 ` Bastien
@ 2011-02-11 18:24   ` Sébastien Vauban
  2011-02-11 18:32   ` Bernt Hansen
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Sébastien Vauban @ 2011-02-11 18:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ

Hi Bastien,

Bastien wrote:
> You used this:
>
> * TODO <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40>-<2010-12-25 Sat 14:50> range with todo
>
> which looks weird.
>
> Better to put the timestamp/range on the next line:
>
> * TODO range with todo
>   <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40>-<2010-12-25 Sat 14:50>
>
> You won't get the surprising results you see.

Isn't it -- (two dashes) for the range purpose?

Best regards,
  Seb

-- 
Sébastien Vauban


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* Re: Timestamp display behavior in timeline view
  2011-02-11 10:37 ` Bastien
  2011-02-11 18:24   ` Sébastien Vauban
@ 2011-02-11 18:32   ` Bernt Hansen
  2011-02-11 18:46     ` Bastien
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Bernt Hansen @ 2011-02-11 18:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: Alex Huang, emacs-orgmode

Bastien <bastien.guerry@wikimedia.fr> writes:

> Hi Alex,
>
> Alex Huang <axh@MIT.EDU> writes:
>
>> 3. current behavior:
>>   ( + is unsurprising, ! is surprising, ? is not sure whether to be
>> surprised)
>>   + entries without time information not displayed
>>   + timestamps without text not displayed
>>   ! entries with timestamps display the text, but not the timestamp
>
> You used this:
>
> * TODO <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40>-<2010-12-25 Sat 14:50> range with todo
>
> which looks weird.
>
> Better to put the timestamp/range on the next line:
>
> * TODO range with todo
>   <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40>-<2010-12-25 Sat 14:50>

Shouldn't these timestamps have two dashes between them?
   <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40>--<2010-12-25 Sat 14:50>
or
   <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40-14:50>

?

-Bernt

>
> You won't get the surprising results you see.
>
> HTH,

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* Re: Timestamp display behavior in timeline view
  2011-02-11 18:32   ` Bernt Hansen
@ 2011-02-11 18:46     ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2011-02-11 18:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bernt Hansen; +Cc: Alex Huang, emacs-orgmode

Hi Bernt,

Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> writes:

>> * TODO range with todo
>>   <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40>-<2010-12-25 Sat 14:50>
>
> Shouldn't these timestamps have two dashes between them?
>    <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40>--<2010-12-25 Sat 14:50>
> or
>    <2010-12-25 Sat 14:40-14:50>

The manual advertize two dashes but both work fine here.

I'm myself using two dashes, I just copied the example of 
the OP too hastly.

-- 
 Bastien

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