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From: stardiviner <numbchild@gmail.com>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthew Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org>, Org Mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Feature] add a new org-attach dispatcher command to offline save web page
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 00:00:44 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87blm8nj6b.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878shcupf6.fsf@localhost>

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Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:

>> If have better solution, I totally agree with that.
>
> In the current state, your patch will be pretty much useless for users
> without technical background.
>
> url-retrieve-synchronously + save-buffer should be a better default. It
> will be available for all users.
>

I don't know how to implement similar functionality like monolith with
url-retrieve-synchronously + save-buffer. PATCH welcome.

> Ideally, there should be several customisation options. Something like:
>  - url-retrieve-synchronously
>  - curl
>  - wget
>  - monolith

Of course curl and wget is alternative options, just still same problem. Don't
know how to download web page as a single file and save it as archive file. If
use other ways, it's just another org-board. Then this patch will be unnecessary.

>
> Also, it would be great if you provide some description about each
> customisation in the docstring. For example, a link to github page of
> monolith and a brief description how it is different from other url
> retrieval methods should be useful for general user.

This is good solution, I will improve option description.

>
> Best,
> Ihor
>
>
> stardiviner <numbchild@gmail.com> writes:
>
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>> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>>> This looks helpful, but I think this should be an add-on rather than
>>>> integrated into the org-attach. I'm glad to learn about monolith, but
>>>> far fewer users are likely to have it installed than have wget or curl
>>>> installed. You might also want to check out org-board, which has similar
>>>> functionality:
>>>
>>> It does not mean that attaching URL directly is not worth including into
>>> org. This sounds pretty common use case, especially considering the number
>>> of packages providing similar feature. You mentioned org-board, but
>>> there is also org-download and org-web-tools.
>>
>> That's right, this phenomenon represents an obviously situation, Org Mode should
>> have this functionality.
>>
>>>
>>> I agree that monolith is completely uncommon tool and I would not expect
>>> the majority of users to have it installed, but the same functionality
>>> utilising built-in url.el (as a default) should be acceptable.
>>
>> If have better solution, I totally agree with that.
>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Ihor
>>>
>>>
>>> Matthew Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> stardiviner <numbchild@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I attached the patch.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think this feature will be helpful for use who archive web page data usually
>>>>> like me. To be more portable, I also added an defcustom option for other
>>>>> external command. And use an if condition to detect whether external command
>>>>> available, else warning user.
>>>>
>>>> This looks helpful, but I think this should be an add-on rather than
>>>> integrated into the org-attach. I'm glad to learn about monolith, but
>>>> far fewer users are likely to have it installed than have wget or curl
>>>> installed. You might also want to check out org-board, which has similar
>>>> functionality:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/scallywag/org-board
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>
>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-28 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-27  9:55 stardiviner
2020-05-28  2:55 ` Matthew Lundin
2020-05-28  5:49   ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-28  6:39     ` stardiviner
2020-05-28 14:03       ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-28 16:00         ` stardiviner [this message]
2020-05-28 18:16           ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-28 16:19     ` Matthew Lundin
2020-05-28 17:11       ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-28 22:15         ` Matthew Lundin
2020-05-29  2:15           ` stardiviner
2020-05-29  2:06         ` stardiviner
2020-05-29  2:03       ` stardiviner
2020-05-29  2:17         ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-29  6:16           ` stardiviner
2020-05-29 15:33           ` Matthew Lundin
2020-05-29 16:32             ` stardiviner
2020-05-30  6:09             ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-28  6:37   ` stardiviner
2020-05-28  6:40   ` stardiviner
2020-05-28 22:24 ` Samuel Wales
2020-05-29  2:23 ` [PATCH updated] " stardiviner
2020-05-29  2:27 ` stardiviner
2020-06-02 12:20   ` Bastien
2020-06-02 14:06     ` stardiviner
2020-06-02 14:26       ` Bastien
2020-06-02 14:40         ` stardiviner
2020-06-03 15:10           ` Bastien
2020-06-03 23:34             ` stardiviner

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