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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
To: stardiviner <numbchild@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthew Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org>, Org Mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Feature] add a new org-attach dispatcher command to offline save web page
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 02:16:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87367kudqj.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87blm8nj6b.fsf@gmail.com>

> I don't know how to implement similar functionality like monolith with
> url-retrieve-synchronously + save-buffer. PATCH welcome.

Sorry, I missed that the default 'url attach method exists already.

> Of course curl and wget is alternative options, just still same problem. Don't
> know how to download web page as a single file and save it as archive file. If
> use other ways, it's just another org-board. Then this patch will be unnecessary.

Well. org-board is not built-in. And curl or wget are much more likely
to be installed. They can serve as a good fallback alternative to
monolith.

Best,
Ihor

stardiviner <numbchild@gmail.com> writes:

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> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:
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>>> If have better solution, I totally agree with that.
>>
>> In the current state, your patch will be pretty much useless for users
>> without technical background.
>>
>> url-retrieve-synchronously + save-buffer should be a better default. It
>> will be available for all users.
>>
>
> I don't know how to implement similar functionality like monolith with
> url-retrieve-synchronously + save-buffer. PATCH welcome.
>
>> Ideally, there should be several customisation options. Something like:
>>  - url-retrieve-synchronously
>>  - curl
>>  - wget
>>  - monolith
>
> Of course curl and wget is alternative options, just still same problem. Don't
> know how to download web page as a single file and save it as archive file. If
> use other ways, it's just another org-board. Then this patch will be unnecessary.
>
>>
>> Also, it would be great if you provide some description about each
>> customisation in the docstring. For example, a link to github page of
>> monolith and a brief description how it is different from other url
>> retrieval methods should be useful for general user.
>
> This is good solution, I will improve option description.
>
>>
>> Best,
>> Ihor
>>
>>
>> stardiviner <numbchild@gmail.com> writes:
>>
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>>> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>>> This looks helpful, but I think this should be an add-on rather than
>>>>> integrated into the org-attach. I'm glad to learn about monolith, but
>>>>> far fewer users are likely to have it installed than have wget or curl
>>>>> installed. You might also want to check out org-board, which has similar
>>>>> functionality:
>>>>
>>>> It does not mean that attaching URL directly is not worth including into
>>>> org. This sounds pretty common use case, especially considering the number
>>>> of packages providing similar feature. You mentioned org-board, but
>>>> there is also org-download and org-web-tools.
>>>
>>> That's right, this phenomenon represents an obviously situation, Org Mode should
>>> have this functionality.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree that monolith is completely uncommon tool and I would not expect
>>>> the majority of users to have it installed, but the same functionality
>>>> utilising built-in url.el (as a default) should be acceptable.
>>>
>>> If have better solution, I totally agree with that.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Ihor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Matthew Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> stardiviner <numbchild@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I attached the patch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think this feature will be helpful for use who archive web page data usually
>>>>>> like me. To be more portable, I also added an defcustom option for other
>>>>>> external command. And use an if condition to detect whether external command
>>>>>> available, else warning user.
>>>>>
>>>>> This looks helpful, but I think this should be an add-on rather than
>>>>> integrated into the org-attach. I'm glad to learn about monolith, but
>>>>> far fewer users are likely to have it installed than have wget or curl
>>>>> installed. You might also want to check out org-board, which has similar
>>>>> functionality:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/scallywag/org-board
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
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-- 
Ihor Radchenko,
PhD,
Center for Advancing Materials Performance from the Nanoscale (CAMP-nano)
State Key Laboratory for Mechanical Behavior of Materials, Xi'an Jiaotong University, Xi'an, China
Email: yantar92@gmail.com, ihor_radchenko@alumni.sutd.edu.sg


  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-28 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-27  9:55 stardiviner
2020-05-28  2:55 ` Matthew Lundin
2020-05-28  5:49   ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-28  6:39     ` stardiviner
2020-05-28 14:03       ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-28 16:00         ` stardiviner
2020-05-28 18:16           ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2020-05-28 16:19     ` Matthew Lundin
2020-05-28 17:11       ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-28 22:15         ` Matthew Lundin
2020-05-29  2:15           ` stardiviner
2020-05-29  2:06         ` stardiviner
2020-05-29  2:03       ` stardiviner
2020-05-29  2:17         ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-29  6:16           ` stardiviner
2020-05-29 15:33           ` Matthew Lundin
2020-05-29 16:32             ` stardiviner
2020-05-30  6:09             ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-05-28  6:37   ` stardiviner
2020-05-28  6:40   ` stardiviner
2020-05-28 22:24 ` Samuel Wales
2020-05-29  2:23 ` [PATCH updated] " stardiviner
2020-05-29  2:27 ` stardiviner
2020-06-02 12:20   ` Bastien
2020-06-02 14:06     ` stardiviner
2020-06-02 14:26       ` Bastien
2020-06-02 14:40         ` stardiviner
2020-06-03 15:10           ` Bastien
2020-06-03 23:34             ` stardiviner

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