From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Supporting non-free SQL clients in ob-sql (was: [PATCH] ob-sql: Add support for Athena)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 12:35:58 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a626n64x.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <63d0e433.170a0220.54a51.4c8f@mx.google.com>
Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com> writes:
> to be very clear, ob-sql is not adding any NEW interface to any external
> program. It is just using the Emacs built-in SQL library (Elisp), which
> has been part of Emacs for a long time (I was using it in late 90s to
> work with Oracle RDMS). It is this library that provides the 'support'
> for things like Oracle's RDMS. If you want more specific information,
> ask on emacs-devel. Org mode is just using this built-in library.
This is wrong.
`org-babel-execute:sql' directly calls the CLI executable via `process-file'.
That said, the discussion about sql.el is also relevant wrt non-free SQL
client support. It will be helpful to clarify what is morally acceptable
for all the scenarios, not just for Org's use-case.
> The Oracle database is simply a relational database management system in
> the same way as Postgres, MySQL, Ingris, MS-Sql server etc. All of these
> have a CLI client and support connections via JDBC. The sql.el library
> provides specialised comint based interfaces which run the CLI to
> communicate with the RDMS. The closest of your 3 choices is b, as the
> build-in Emacs sql library executes the RDMS CLI in a sub-process comint
> buffer.
Org does not use this comint interface yet. We may in future though, for
sessions:
(defun org-babel-prep-session:sql (_session _params)
"Raise an error because Sql sessions aren't implemented."
(error "SQL sessions not yet implemented"))
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
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Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-25 12:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-16 10:48 [PATCH] ob-sql: Add support for Athena Daniel Kraus
2023-01-16 11:13 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-16 11:52 ` Daniel Kraus
2023-01-16 20:50 ` Tim Cross
2023-01-17 9:42 ` Daniel Kraus
2023-01-17 10:06 ` Supporting non-free SQL clients in ob-sql (was: [PATCH] ob-sql: Add support for Athena) Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-17 11:38 ` Tim Cross
2023-01-23 4:23 ` Richard Stallman
2023-01-23 6:33 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-25 4:31 ` Richard Stallman
2023-01-25 7:57 ` Tim Cross
2023-01-25 12:35 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-01-25 14:05 ` Tim Cross
2023-01-25 14:31 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-25 21:11 ` Tim Cross
2023-02-26 2:59 ` Richard Stallman
2023-01-28 4:45 ` Richard Stallman
2023-01-30 14:51 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-28 4:43 ` Richard Stallman
2023-01-25 11:51 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-29 5:15 ` Richard Stallman
2023-01-23 12:45 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-23 20:12 ` Tim Cross
2023-01-26 4:25 ` Richard Stallman
2023-01-26 6:59 ` Supporting non-free SQL clients in ob-sql Loris Bennett
2023-01-26 10:22 ` Supporting non-free SQL clients in ob-sql (was: [PATCH] ob-sql: Add support for Athena) Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-26 11:05 ` Supporting non-free SQL clients in ob-sql Heinz Tuechler
2023-01-26 11:14 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-26 11:47 ` Heinz Tuechler
2023-01-28 4:45 ` Supporting non-free SQL clients in ob-sql (was: [PATCH] ob-sql: Add support for Athena) Richard Stallman
2023-01-29 14:21 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-04 5:15 ` Richard Stallman
2023-01-26 4:26 ` Richard Stallman
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