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* keep org drawers visible
@ 2020-08-15 15:33 Colin Baxter
  2020-08-15 15:58 ` Colin Baxter
  2020-08-25 18:01 ` David Rogers
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Colin Baxter @ 2020-08-15 15:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode


Hello,

Property drawers remaining invisible even when I use <shift>-<TAB>
drives me nuts. I know about M-x org-hide-drawer-toggle <RET> but how do
I keep the drawers open all the time without having to toggle? I work on
the basis that I want to see what I write - if I didn't then I wouldn't
have written it.
 
Thanks.

Best wishes,


Colin Baxter



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* Re: keep org drawers visible
  2020-08-15 15:33 keep org drawers visible Colin Baxter
@ 2020-08-15 15:58 ` Colin Baxter
  2020-08-16 11:39   ` Ihor Radchenko
  2020-08-25 18:01 ` David Rogers
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Colin Baxter @ 2020-08-15 15:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

>>>>> Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:

    > Hello,

    > Property drawers remaining invisible even when I use <shift>-<TAB>
    > drives me nuts. I know about M-x org-hide-drawer-toggle <RET> but
    > how do I keep the drawers open all the time without having to
    > toggle? I work on the basis that I want to see what I write - if I
    > didn't then I wouldn't have written it.

I realise the above is none too clear. I can use showeverything in
STARTUP of course and this does indeed open the drawers. However the
drawers close and remain closed after multiple uses of <SHIFT>-<TAB>.
Therefore my question is how can I again reach the showeverything status
without closing down the file and re-opening it?
 
Colin Baxter.



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* Re: keep org drawers visible
  2020-08-15 15:58 ` Colin Baxter
@ 2020-08-16 11:39   ` Ihor Radchenko
  2020-08-16 13:19     ` Colin Baxter
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2020-08-16 11:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Colin Baxter, emacs-orgmode

> I realise the above is none too clear. I can use showeverything in
> STARTUP of course and this does indeed open the drawers. However the
> drawers close and remain closed after multiple uses of <SHIFT>-<TAB>.
> Therefore my question is how can I again reach the showeverything status
> without closing down the file and re-opening it?

Take a look at default org-cycle-hook value. You can remove
org-cycle-hide-drawers from there.

Best,
Ihor

Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:

>>>>>> Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:
>
>     > Hello,
>
>     > Property drawers remaining invisible even when I use <shift>-<TAB>
>     > drives me nuts. I know about M-x org-hide-drawer-toggle <RET> but
>     > how do I keep the drawers open all the time without having to
>     > toggle? I work on the basis that I want to see what I write - if I
>     > didn't then I wouldn't have written it.
>
> I realise the above is none too clear. I can use showeverything in
> STARTUP of course and this does indeed open the drawers. However the
> drawers close and remain closed after multiple uses of <SHIFT>-<TAB>.
> Therefore my question is how can I again reach the showeverything status
> without closing down the file and re-opening it?
>  
> Colin Baxter.


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* Re: keep org drawers visible
  2020-08-16 11:39   ` Ihor Radchenko
@ 2020-08-16 13:19     ` Colin Baxter
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Colin Baxter @ 2020-08-16 13:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

>>>>> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:

    >> I realise the above is none too clear. I can use showeverything
    >> in STARTUP of course and this does indeed open the
    >> drawers. However the drawers close and remain closed after
    >> multiple uses of <SHIFT>-<TAB>.  Therefore my question is how can
    >> I again reach the showeverything status without closing down the
    >> file and re-opening it?

    > Take a look at default org-cycle-hook value. You can remove
    > org-cycle-hide-drawers from there.

Thanks. Your suggestion led to where I should have looked at the
beginning. I've found that "C-u C-u C-u" as a prefix to <TAB> gives me
immediately what I want. I'll look to modify the org-cycle-hook at a
quieter time later. Thanks again.


Best wishes,

Colin.



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* Re: keep org drawers visible
  2020-08-15 15:33 keep org drawers visible Colin Baxter
  2020-08-15 15:58 ` Colin Baxter
@ 2020-08-25 18:01 ` David Rogers
  2020-08-25 18:45   ` Colin Baxter
  2020-08-26  1:33   ` Ihor Radchenko
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: David Rogers @ 2020-08-25 18:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:

> Hello,
>
> Property drawers remaining invisible even when I use 
> <shift>-<TAB>
> drives me nuts. I know about M-x org-hide-drawer-toggle <RET> 
> but how do
> I keep the drawers open all the time without having to toggle? I 
> work on
> the basis that I want to see what I write - if I didn't then I 
> wouldn't
> have written it.

It’s also possible, if you want finer control of what’s shown 
(instead of showing all the properties), to add a 'columnview' 
block. It would show a formatted table of whichever properties you 
specify (from certain subtrees or from the entire file), arranged 
in the order you choose. It’s under “Capturing column view” in the 
manual. I seem not to keep the types of information that benefit 
from it, but it’s there.

-- 
David Rogers


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* Re: keep org drawers visible
  2020-08-25 18:01 ` David Rogers
@ 2020-08-25 18:45   ` Colin Baxter
  2020-08-26  1:33   ` Ihor Radchenko
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Colin Baxter @ 2020-08-25 18:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Rogers; +Cc: , emacs-orgmode

Dear David,

>>>>> David Rogers <davidandrewrogers@gmail.com> writes:

    > Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:
    >> Hello,
    >> 
    >> Property drawers remaining invisible even when I use
    >> <shift>-<TAB> drives me nuts. I know about M-x
    >> org-hide-drawer-toggle <RET> but how do I keep the drawers open
    >> all the time without having to toggle? I work on the basis that I
    >> want to see what I write - if I didn't then I wouldn't have
    >> written it.

    > It’s also possible, if you want finer control of what’s shown
    > (instead of showing all the properties), to add a 'columnview'
    > block. It would show a formatted table of whichever properties you
    > specify (from certain subtrees or from the entire file), arranged
    > in the order you choose. It’s under “Capturing column view” in the
    > manual. I seem not to keep the types of information that benefit
    > from it, but it’s there.

That is an excellent suggestion. I have only used column view for clock
times and efforts, not imagining that it could be used for something as
simple as revealing the PROPERTY drawers. Of course, I'll either have to
rationalise my PROPERTIES (at present, no two headings have the exactly
the same drawers) or stack headings with same PROPERTIES. That will be a
good exercise.

Thank you again. I would never have thought of something so simple and
elegant.

Best wishes,


Colin Baxter
URL: http://www.Colin-Baxter.com
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* Re: keep org drawers visible
  2020-08-25 18:01 ` David Rogers
  2020-08-25 18:45   ` Colin Baxter
@ 2020-08-26  1:33   ` Ihor Radchenko
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2020-08-26  1:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Rogers, emacs-orgmode

> It’s also possible, if you want finer control of what’s shown 
> (instead of showing all the properties), to add a 'columnview' 
> block. It would show a formatted table of whichever properties you 
> specify (from certain subtrees or from the entire file), arranged 
> in the order you choose. It’s under “Capturing column view” in the 
> manual. I seem not to keep the types of information that benefit 
> from it, but it’s there.

Another option.
It is possible to hide common properties in drawers (and show all other)
using org-toggle-custom-properties-visibility.

Best,
Ihor


David Rogers <davidandrewrogers@gmail.com> writes:

> Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Property drawers remaining invisible even when I use 
>> <shift>-<TAB>
>> drives me nuts. I know about M-x org-hide-drawer-toggle <RET> 
>> but how do
>> I keep the drawers open all the time without having to toggle? I 
>> work on
>> the basis that I want to see what I write - if I didn't then I 
>> wouldn't
>> have written it.
>
> It’s also possible, if you want finer control of what’s shown 
> (instead of showing all the properties), to add a 'columnview' 
> block. It would show a formatted table of whichever properties you 
> specify (from certain subtrees or from the entire file), arranged 
> in the order you choose. It’s under “Capturing column view” in the 
> manual. I seem not to keep the types of information that benefit 
> from it, but it’s there.
>
> -- 
> David Rogers


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