* LaTeX export: Theorem with an author
@ 2013-02-07 20:50 Vincent Beffara
2013-02-08 19:58 ` Nicolas Goaziou
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From: Vincent Beffara @ 2013-02-07 20:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Org Mode List
Hi,
How to generate latex code for a theorem with an author, like this:
\begin{theorem}[Newton]
Blah.
\end{theorem}
With the old exporter, you could do this:
#+BEGIN_theorem Newton
Blah.
#+END_theorem
(possibly with brackets, not sure) but now the rest of the #+BEGIN_ line is ignored ... This works:
#+BEGIN_theorem
[Newton]
Blah.
#+END_theorem
but it is more by accident than anything else. What would be the right way?
Thanks,
/v
--
Vincent Beffara
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2013-02-07 20:50 LaTeX export: Theorem with an author Vincent Beffara
@ 2013-02-08 19:58 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-09 13:09 ` Andreas Leha
2013-02-10 23:26 ` Vincent Beffara
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From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-02-08 19:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vincent Beffara; +Cc: Org Mode List
Hello,
Vincent Beffara <vbeffara+ml@gmail.com> writes:
> How to generate latex code for a theorem with an author, like this:
>
> \begin{theorem}[Newton]
> Blah.
> \end{theorem}
>
> With the old exporter, you could do this:
>
>
> #+BEGIN_theorem Newton
> Blah.
> #+END_theorem
>
>
> (possibly with brackets, not sure) but now the rest of the #+BEGIN_ line is ignored ... This works:
>
>
> #+BEGIN_theorem
> [Newton]
> Blah.
> #+END_theorem
>
>
> but it is more by accident than anything else. What would be the right
> way?
There's no right way at the moment: I forgot to implement this.
Anyway, since this feature was LaTeX only, what do you think about the
following syntax (which doesn't work yet):
#+attr_latex: :options [Newton]
#+begin_theorem
Blah.
#+end_theorem
It is heavier but it seems more consistent to me.
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou
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2013-02-08 19:58 ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2013-02-09 13:09 ` Andreas Leha
2013-02-09 13:16 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-10 23:26 ` Vincent Beffara
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Leha @ 2013-02-09 13:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi Nicolas,
>> How to generate latex code for a theorem with an author, like this:
>>
>> \begin{theorem}[Newton]
>> Blah.
>> \end{theorem}
>>
>> With the old exporter, you could do this:
>>
>>
>> #+BEGIN_theorem Newton
>> Blah.
>> #+END_theorem
>>
>>
[...]
I was not aware of that possibility in the old exporter. Neat!
>
> There's no right way at the moment: I forgot to implement this.
>
> Anyway, since this feature was LaTeX only, what do you think about the
> following syntax (which doesn't work yet):
>
> #+attr_latex: :options [Newton]
> #+begin_theorem
> Blah.
> #+end_theorem
>
> It is heavier but it seems more consistent to me.
Even if it *was* LaTeX only, shouldn't it be up to the backend to
provide translation of such arguments? I'd vote for the shorter version
to have a (possibly future) backend-agnostic version.
Just my 2ct.
- Andreas
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2013-02-09 13:09 ` Andreas Leha
@ 2013-02-09 13:16 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-09 13:30 ` Andreas Leha
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-02-09 13:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Leha; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hello,
Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:
>> #+attr_latex: :options [Newton]
>> #+begin_theorem
>> Blah.
>> #+end_theorem
>>
>> It is heavier but it seems more consistent to me.
>
> Even if it *was* LaTeX only, shouldn't it be up to the backend to
> provide translation of such arguments? I'd vote for the shorter version
> to have a (possibly future) backend-agnostic version.
Well, I already have implemented this syntax. We'll see how it goes.
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou
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* Re: LaTeX export: Theorem with an author
2013-02-09 13:16 ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2013-02-09 13:30 ` Andreas Leha
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From: Andreas Leha @ 2013-02-09 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi Nicolas,
>>> #+attr_latex: :options [Newton]
>>> #+begin_theorem
>>> Blah.
>>> #+end_theorem
>>>
>>> It is heavier but it seems more consistent to me.
>>
>> Even if it *was* LaTeX only, shouldn't it be up to the backend to
>> provide translation of such arguments? I'd vote for the shorter version
>> to have a (possibly future) backend-agnostic version.
>
> Well, I already have implemented this syntax. We'll see how it goes.
>
Since I go the LaTeX-route most times, I'll be a most-times-happy user
of this. Thanks for implementing it!
Exporting to multiple backends takes more efforts than I'd like, anyway.
So I try to avoid that and concentrate on one backend per project. I'd
just rather like to see the differences decrease -- not increase ;-)
- Andreas
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* Re: LaTeX export: Theorem with an author
2013-02-08 19:58 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-09 13:09 ` Andreas Leha
@ 2013-02-10 23:26 ` Vincent Beffara
2013-02-11 7:02 ` Nicolas Goaziou
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Vincent Beffara @ 2013-02-10 23:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Org Mode List
Hi,
> There's no right way at the moment: I forgot to implement this.
>
> Anyway, since this feature was LaTeX only, what do you think about the
> following syntax (which doesn't work yet):
>
> #+attr_latex: :options [Newton]
> #+begin_theorem
> Blah.
> #+end_theorem
>
> It is heavier but it seems more consistent to me.
It does seem more consistent with things like fig captions and so on - thanks for implementing! A little bit more verbose but that's fine ... and I agree that the previous "#+begin_theorem Somebody" felt a bit vague. How about a middle ground like this ?
#+begin_theorem :options [Him]
slkdfj
#+end_theorem
>
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Nicolas Goaziou
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* Re: LaTeX export: Theorem with an author
2013-02-10 23:26 ` Vincent Beffara
@ 2013-02-11 7:02 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-02-11 22:07 ` Vincent Beffara
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-02-11 7:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vincent Beffara; +Cc: Org Mode List
Vincent Beffara <vbeffara+ml@gmail.com> writes:
> It does seem more consistent with things like fig captions and so on -
> thanks for implementing! A little bit more verbose but that's fine ...
> and I agree that the previous "#+begin_theorem Somebody" felt a bit
> vague. How about a middle ground like this ?
>
> #+begin_theorem :options [Him]
> slkdfj
> #+end_theorem
This isn't future-proof. If, for example, we need to add options for the
HTML back-end, there will be a syntax conflict. The rule is the
following:
- If the toggle are global, allow them on the block opening string
(i.e. src-block and code toggles)
- For back-end specific value, use attributes.
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou
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* Re: LaTeX export: Theorem with an author
2013-02-11 7:02 ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2013-02-11 22:07 ` Vincent Beffara
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Vincent Beffara @ 2013-02-11 22:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Org Mode List
Hi,
> > #+begin_theorem :options [Him]
> > slkdfj
> > #+end_theorem
>
> This isn't future-proof. If, for example, we need to add options for the
> HTML back-end, there will be a syntax conflict. The rule is the
> following:
>
> - If the toggle are global, allow them on the block opening string
> (i.e. src-block and code toggles)
>
> - For back-end specific value, use attributes.
Fair enough. Although as Andreas said, something backend-agnostic to specify meta-data could still make sense at some point, which each backend could choose to implement as reasonable or ignore. You're right that setting LaTeX to add [Author] is probably not one of those cases.
Cheers,
/v
>
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Nicolas Goaziou
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