* Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block
@ 2011-12-21 13:43 Rainer Stengele
2012-01-02 18:53 ` Bastien
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Rainer Stengele @ 2011-12-21 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi,
I experience an annoying behaviour:
Having
*** Headline
:LOGBOOK:....>
- point is at the end of the headline
- moving one line down I am at the end of the LOGBOOK line
There I cannot open the folded LOGBOOK block with <TAB>.
I have to move point one character back in order to unfold it with <TAB>.
After that I can no more reach the end of this line like before, where I could not unfold with <TAB>.
Is this intended?
I would appreciate being able to unfold a block when being directly after the last character of the folded thing.
Would it make sense to be able to configure such a behaviour?
Rainer
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread* Re: Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block 2011-12-21 13:43 Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block Rainer Stengele @ 2012-01-02 18:53 ` Bastien 2012-01-03 10:58 ` Rainer Stengele 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2012-01-02 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rainer Stengele; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hi Rainer, Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@online.de> writes: > Having > > *** Headline > :LOGBOOK:....> > > - point is at the end of the headline > - moving one line down I am at the end of the LOGBOOK line > > There I cannot open the folded LOGBOOK block with <TAB>. > I have to move point one character back in order to unfold it with <TAB>. > After that I can no more reach the end of this line like before, where I could not unfold with <TAB>. > > Is this intended? No. This is fixed now. Thanks, -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block 2012-01-02 18:53 ` Bastien @ 2012-01-03 10:58 ` Rainer Stengele 2012-01-04 10:27 ` Bastien 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Rainer Stengele @ 2012-01-03 10:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Am 02.01.2012 19:53, schrieb Bastien: > Hi Rainer, > > Rainer Stengele<rainer.stengele@online.de> writes: > >> Having >> >> *** Headline >> :LOGBOOK:....> >> >> - point is at the end of the headline >> - moving one line down I am at the end of the LOGBOOK line >> >> There I cannot open the folded LOGBOOK block with<TAB>. >> I have to move point one character back in order to unfold it with<TAB>. >> After that I can no more reach the end of this line like before, where I could not unfold with<TAB>. >> >> Is this intended? > No. This is fixed now. > > Thanks, > Hi Bastien, I just pulled and checked but cannot see a change. Did you check in the fix already? Thanks! Rainer ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block 2012-01-03 10:58 ` Rainer Stengele @ 2012-01-04 10:27 ` Bastien 2012-01-10 8:52 ` Rainer Stengele 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2012-01-04 10:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rainer Stengele; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hi Rainer, Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@online.de> writes: > I just pulled and checked but cannot see a change. > Did you check in the fix already? Yes I did. Try with (setq org-special-ctrl-a/e nil) C-e goes *after* the end of the invisible region and TAB will do nothing here, either in a folded subtree or in a folded drawer. With (setq org-special-ctrl-a/e 'reversed) C-e goes *right before* the end of the invisible region and TAB will unfold as expected, both in a folded subtree or in a folded drawer. This behavior is more consistent than the previous one. But you need to set `org-special-ctrl-a/e' according to your needs. HTH, -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block 2012-01-04 10:27 ` Bastien @ 2012-01-10 8:52 ` Rainer Stengele 2023-07-20 8:37 ` Vlastimil Vondra 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Rainer Stengele @ 2012-01-10 8:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Am 04.01.2012 11:27, schrieb Bastien: > Hi Rainer, > > Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@online.de> writes: > >> I just pulled and checked but cannot see a change. >> Did you check in the fix already? > > Yes I did. > > Try with > > (setq org-special-ctrl-a/e nil) > > C-e goes *after* the end of the invisible region and TAB will do nothing > here, either in a folded subtree or in a folded drawer. > > With > > (setq org-special-ctrl-a/e 'reversed) > > C-e goes *right before* the end of the invisible region and TAB will > unfold as expected, both in a folded subtree or in a folded drawer. > > This behavior is more consistent than the previous one. But you need > to set `org-special-ctrl-a/e' according to your needs. > > HTH, > Hi Bastien and Carsten, I do have (setq org-special-ctrl-a/e 'reversed) and it works as expected when jumping to the end of line with C-e. But I do use cursor keys to move one line down. Point at end of line and moving down one line with cursor down I cannot unfold the block by pressing TAB. Is there a chance to get this done when using the cursor movement? Thanks, Rainer ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block 2012-01-10 8:52 ` Rainer Stengele @ 2023-07-20 8:37 ` Vlastimil Vondra 2023-07-20 8:46 ` Ihor Radchenko 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Vlastimil Vondra @ 2023-07-20 8:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: rainer.stengele; +Cc: bzg, emacs-orgmode Hi all, I solved it by using "(org-end-of-line)" before "(org-cycle)" (defun my/org-cycle (&optional arg) "adjust org-cycle" (interactive "P") (org-end-of-line) (org-cycle arg) ) I hope it could be useful to somebody. Best regards, Vlastimil Vondra ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block 2023-07-20 8:37 ` Vlastimil Vondra @ 2023-07-20 8:46 ` Ihor Radchenko [not found] ` <CACjq+cw3wMsyF=W-hPGYBkN_P9Ng5k96Ufk0J-9QRn6-+h16og@mail.gmail.com> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2023-07-20 8:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Vlastimil Vondra; +Cc: rainer.stengele, bzg, emacs-orgmode Vlastimil Vondra <vlastimil.vondra@gmail.com> writes: > Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block I tried to reproduce the problem and I cannot. May you please provide more details? See https://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>. Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>, or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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* Re: Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block [not found] ` <CACjq+cw3wMsyF=W-hPGYBkN_P9Ng5k96Ufk0J-9QRn6-+h16og@mail.gmail.com> @ 2023-07-20 9:20 ` Ihor Radchenko 2023-07-20 9:37 ` Vlastimil Vondra 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2023-07-20 9:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Vlastimil Vondra; +Cc: emacs-orgmode [ Adding Org mailing list back to CC ] Vlastimil Vondra <vlastimil.vondra@gmail.com> writes: > Sorry, I think I've sent the reply in wrong manner. I was trying to reply > to this conversation https://list.orgmode.org/87ty4b7ofr.fsf@gnu.org/t/ > where Reiner wrote that he is not able to unfold tree if folded and at the > end of line. You can get there if you are on line longer then previous, > then up arrow and now you are not able to unfold. I've created function, > which will first set cursor to end-of-line by function and then calling > org-cycle which is then working. You are replying to a thread that is 10 years old. That problem discussed in the thread has been fixed in Org 9.4.4 or earlier (for drawers). > I'm sending video, so it is more obvious. In the video, the situation is with folded headings of different length: * asd alskdj * Headingalksjdlaskdj alskdj If everything is folded: * asd... * Headingalksjdlaskdj<point>... Pressing C-p will yield * asd...<point> <-- note <point> after ... * Headingalksjdlaskdj... Then, <TAB> will indeed not unfold, before the point is not actually on heading. This situation is one of the edge cases with point adjustment in Emacs. The workaround is simple - M-x org-reveal (C-c C-r). org-reveal generally works any time the cursor is stuck in the middle of invisible text. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>. Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>, or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block 2023-07-20 9:20 ` Ihor Radchenko @ 2023-07-20 9:37 ` Vlastimil Vondra 2023-07-20 22:04 ` Evgenii Klimov 2023-07-21 7:30 ` Ihor Radchenko 0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Vlastimil Vondra @ 2023-07-20 9:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ihor Radchenko; +Cc: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2117 bytes --] Perfect, org-reveal is working as well, haven't known about that! But it would be good that org-reveal is called automatically before org-cycle, because when going through the task list, I'm just expanding by tab. It is not really convenient to use tab and when reaching error (or no unfold) then hitting C-c C-r. Maybe it's just me. Anyway thanks for letting me know. BR, Vlastimil On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 at 11:20, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> wrote: > [ Adding Org mailing list back to CC ] > > Vlastimil Vondra <vlastimil.vondra@gmail.com> writes: > > > Sorry, I think I've sent the reply in wrong manner. I was trying to reply > > to this conversation https://list.orgmode.org/87ty4b7ofr.fsf@gnu.org/t/ > > where Reiner wrote that he is not able to unfold tree if folded and at > the > > end of line. You can get there if you are on line longer then previous, > > then up arrow and now you are not able to unfold. I've created function, > > which will first set cursor to end-of-line by function and then calling > > org-cycle which is then working. > > You are replying to a thread that is 10 years old. That problem > discussed in the thread has been fixed in Org 9.4.4 or earlier (for > drawers). > > > I'm sending video, so it is more obvious. > > In the video, the situation is with folded headings of different length: > > * asd > alskdj > * Headingalksjdlaskdj > alskdj > > If everything is folded: > > * asd... > * Headingalksjdlaskdj<point>... > > Pressing C-p will yield > > * asd...<point> <-- note <point> after ... > * Headingalksjdlaskdj... > > Then, <TAB> will indeed not unfold, before the point is not actually on > heading. > This situation is one of the edge cases with point adjustment in Emacs. > > The workaround is simple - M-x org-reveal (C-c C-r). > org-reveal generally works any time the cursor is stuck in the middle of > invisible text. > > -- > Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, > Org mode contributor, > Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>. > Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>, > or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92> > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3115 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block 2023-07-20 9:37 ` Vlastimil Vondra @ 2023-07-20 22:04 ` Evgenii Klimov 2023-07-21 7:30 ` Ihor Radchenko 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Evgenii Klimov @ 2023-07-20 22:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Vlastimil Vondra; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hi Vlastimil Vondra <vlastimil.vondra@gmail.com> writes: > Perfect, org-reveal is working as well, haven't known about that! But it would be good that org-reveal is called automatically before org-cycle, because when > going through the task list, I'm just expanding by tab. It is not really convenient to use tab and when reaching error (or no unfold) then hitting C-c C-r. > Maybe it's just me. [...] Can't you move the point at the beginning of the line before starting to expand by tab? That way =org-speed-commands= will be available for you and moving/expanding will be even faster. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block 2023-07-20 9:37 ` Vlastimil Vondra 2023-07-20 22:04 ` Evgenii Klimov @ 2023-07-21 7:30 ` Ihor Radchenko 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2023-07-21 7:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Vlastimil Vondra; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Vlastimil Vondra <vlastimil.vondra@gmail.com> writes: > Perfect, org-reveal is working as well, haven't known about that! But it > would be good that org-reveal is called automatically before org-cycle, > because when going through the task list, I'm just expanding by tab. It is > not really convenient to use tab and when reaching error (or no unfold) > then hitting C-c C-r. Maybe it's just me. Try to customize `org-cycle-emulate-tab'. That way, `org-cycle' will try to reveal current heading in more places instead of attempting to perform indentation. I do not think that calling org-reveal before org-cycle is a good idea - it may lead to unexpected results depending on `org-fold-show-context-detail'. You can also create your own custom `personal/org-cycle' command that will (1) call `org-reveal' (2) call `org-cycle'. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>. Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>, or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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