* Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block
@ 2011-12-21 13:43 Rainer Stengele
2012-01-02 18:53 ` Bastien
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From: Rainer Stengele @ 2011-12-21 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi,
I experience an annoying behaviour:
Having
*** Headline
:LOGBOOK:....>
- point is at the end of the headline
- moving one line down I am at the end of the LOGBOOK line
There I cannot open the folded LOGBOOK block with <TAB>.
I have to move point one character back in order to unfold it with <TAB>.
After that I can no more reach the end of this line like before, where I could not unfold with <TAB>.
Is this intended?
I would appreciate being able to unfold a block when being directly after the last character of the folded thing.
Would it make sense to be able to configure such a behaviour?
Rainer
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* Re: Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block
2011-12-21 13:43 Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block Rainer Stengele
@ 2012-01-02 18:53 ` Bastien
2012-01-03 10:58 ` Rainer Stengele
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From: Bastien @ 2012-01-02 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rainer Stengele; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi Rainer,
Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@online.de> writes:
> Having
>
> *** Headline
> :LOGBOOK:....>
>
> - point is at the end of the headline
> - moving one line down I am at the end of the LOGBOOK line
>
> There I cannot open the folded LOGBOOK block with <TAB>.
> I have to move point one character back in order to unfold it with <TAB>.
> After that I can no more reach the end of this line like before, where I could not unfold with <TAB>.
>
> Is this intended?
No. This is fixed now.
Thanks,
--
Bastien
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* Re: Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block
2012-01-02 18:53 ` Bastien
@ 2012-01-03 10:58 ` Rainer Stengele
2012-01-04 10:27 ` Bastien
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From: Rainer Stengele @ 2012-01-03 10:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Am 02.01.2012 19:53, schrieb Bastien:
> Hi Rainer,
>
> Rainer Stengele<rainer.stengele@online.de> writes:
>
>> Having
>>
>> *** Headline
>> :LOGBOOK:....>
>>
>> - point is at the end of the headline
>> - moving one line down I am at the end of the LOGBOOK line
>>
>> There I cannot open the folded LOGBOOK block with<TAB>.
>> I have to move point one character back in order to unfold it with<TAB>.
>> After that I can no more reach the end of this line like before, where I could not unfold with<TAB>.
>>
>> Is this intended?
> No. This is fixed now.
>
> Thanks,
>
Hi Bastien,
I just pulled and checked but cannot see a change.
Did you check in the fix already?
Thanks!
Rainer
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* Re: Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block
2012-01-03 10:58 ` Rainer Stengele
@ 2012-01-04 10:27 ` Bastien
2012-01-10 8:52 ` Rainer Stengele
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From: Bastien @ 2012-01-04 10:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rainer Stengele; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi Rainer,
Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@online.de> writes:
> I just pulled and checked but cannot see a change.
> Did you check in the fix already?
Yes I did.
Try with
(setq org-special-ctrl-a/e nil)
C-e goes *after* the end of the invisible region and TAB will do nothing
here, either in a folded subtree or in a folded drawer.
With
(setq org-special-ctrl-a/e 'reversed)
C-e goes *right before* the end of the invisible region and TAB will
unfold as expected, both in a folded subtree or in a folded drawer.
This behavior is more consistent than the previous one. But you need
to set `org-special-ctrl-a/e' according to your needs.
HTH,
--
Bastien
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* Re: Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block
2012-01-04 10:27 ` Bastien
@ 2012-01-10 8:52 ` Rainer Stengele
2023-07-20 8:37 ` Vlastimil Vondra
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Rainer Stengele @ 2012-01-10 8:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Am 04.01.2012 11:27, schrieb Bastien:
> Hi Rainer,
>
> Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@online.de> writes:
>
>> I just pulled and checked but cannot see a change.
>> Did you check in the fix already?
>
> Yes I did.
>
> Try with
>
> (setq org-special-ctrl-a/e nil)
>
> C-e goes *after* the end of the invisible region and TAB will do nothing
> here, either in a folded subtree or in a folded drawer.
>
> With
>
> (setq org-special-ctrl-a/e 'reversed)
>
> C-e goes *right before* the end of the invisible region and TAB will
> unfold as expected, both in a folded subtree or in a folded drawer.
>
> This behavior is more consistent than the previous one. But you need
> to set `org-special-ctrl-a/e' according to your needs.
>
> HTH,
>
Hi Bastien and Carsten,
I do have
(setq org-special-ctrl-a/e 'reversed)
and it works as expected when jumping to the end of line with C-e.
But I do use cursor keys to move one line down.
Point at end of line and moving down one line with cursor down I cannot unfold the block by pressing TAB.
Is there a chance to get this done when using the cursor movement?
Thanks,
Rainer
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* Re: Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block
2012-01-10 8:52 ` Rainer Stengele
@ 2023-07-20 8:37 ` Vlastimil Vondra
2023-07-20 8:46 ` Ihor Radchenko
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From: Vlastimil Vondra @ 2023-07-20 8:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rainer.stengele; +Cc: bzg, emacs-orgmode
Hi all,
I solved it by using "(org-end-of-line)" before "(org-cycle)"
(defun my/org-cycle (&optional arg)
"adjust org-cycle"
(interactive "P")
(org-end-of-line)
(org-cycle arg)
)
I hope it could be useful to somebody.
Best regards,
Vlastimil Vondra
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* Re: Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block
2023-07-20 8:37 ` Vlastimil Vondra
@ 2023-07-20 8:46 ` Ihor Radchenko
[not found] ` <CACjq+cw3wMsyF=W-hPGYBkN_P9Ng5k96Ufk0J-9QRn6-+h16og@mail.gmail.com>
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From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2023-07-20 8:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vlastimil Vondra; +Cc: rainer.stengele, bzg, emacs-orgmode
Vlastimil Vondra <vlastimil.vondra@gmail.com> writes:
> Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block
I tried to reproduce the problem and I cannot.
May you please provide more details?
See https://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback
--
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* Re: Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block
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@ 2023-07-20 9:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-20 9:37 ` Vlastimil Vondra
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From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2023-07-20 9:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vlastimil Vondra; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
[ Adding Org mailing list back to CC ]
Vlastimil Vondra <vlastimil.vondra@gmail.com> writes:
> Sorry, I think I've sent the reply in wrong manner. I was trying to reply
> to this conversation https://list.orgmode.org/87ty4b7ofr.fsf@gnu.org/t/
> where Reiner wrote that he is not able to unfold tree if folded and at the
> end of line. You can get there if you are on line longer then previous,
> then up arrow and now you are not able to unfold. I've created function,
> which will first set cursor to end-of-line by function and then calling
> org-cycle which is then working.
You are replying to a thread that is 10 years old. That problem
discussed in the thread has been fixed in Org 9.4.4 or earlier (for
drawers).
> I'm sending video, so it is more obvious.
In the video, the situation is with folded headings of different length:
* asd
alskdj
* Headingalksjdlaskdj
alskdj
If everything is folded:
* asd...
* Headingalksjdlaskdj<point>...
Pressing C-p will yield
* asd...<point> <-- note <point> after ...
* Headingalksjdlaskdj...
Then, <TAB> will indeed not unfold, before the point is not actually on
heading.
This situation is one of the edge cases with point adjustment in Emacs.
The workaround is simple - M-x org-reveal (C-c C-r).
org-reveal generally works any time the cursor is stuck in the middle of
invisible text.
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
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* Re: Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block
2023-07-20 9:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
@ 2023-07-20 9:37 ` Vlastimil Vondra
2023-07-20 22:04 ` Evgenii Klimov
2023-07-21 7:30 ` Ihor Radchenko
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From: Vlastimil Vondra @ 2023-07-20 9:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ihor Radchenko; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
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Perfect, org-reveal is working as well, haven't known about that! But it
would be good that org-reveal is called automatically before org-cycle,
because when going through the task list, I'm just expanding by tab. It is
not really convenient to use tab and when reaching error (or no unfold)
then hitting C-c C-r. Maybe it's just me.
Anyway thanks for letting me know.
BR,
Vlastimil
On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 at 11:20, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> wrote:
> [ Adding Org mailing list back to CC ]
>
> Vlastimil Vondra <vlastimil.vondra@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Sorry, I think I've sent the reply in wrong manner. I was trying to reply
> > to this conversation https://list.orgmode.org/87ty4b7ofr.fsf@gnu.org/t/
> > where Reiner wrote that he is not able to unfold tree if folded and at
> the
> > end of line. You can get there if you are on line longer then previous,
> > then up arrow and now you are not able to unfold. I've created function,
> > which will first set cursor to end-of-line by function and then calling
> > org-cycle which is then working.
>
> You are replying to a thread that is 10 years old. That problem
> discussed in the thread has been fixed in Org 9.4.4 or earlier (for
> drawers).
>
> > I'm sending video, so it is more obvious.
>
> In the video, the situation is with folded headings of different length:
>
> * asd
> alskdj
> * Headingalksjdlaskdj
> alskdj
>
> If everything is folded:
>
> * asd...
> * Headingalksjdlaskdj<point>...
>
> Pressing C-p will yield
>
> * asd...<point> <-- note <point> after ...
> * Headingalksjdlaskdj...
>
> Then, <TAB> will indeed not unfold, before the point is not actually on
> heading.
> This situation is one of the edge cases with point adjustment in Emacs.
>
> The workaround is simple - M-x org-reveal (C-c C-r).
> org-reveal generally works any time the cursor is stuck in the middle of
> invisible text.
>
> --
> Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
> Org mode contributor,
> Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
> Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
> or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>
>
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* Re: Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block
2023-07-20 9:37 ` Vlastimil Vondra
@ 2023-07-20 22:04 ` Evgenii Klimov
2023-07-21 7:30 ` Ihor Radchenko
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From: Evgenii Klimov @ 2023-07-20 22:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vlastimil Vondra; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi
Vlastimil Vondra <vlastimil.vondra@gmail.com> writes:
> Perfect, org-reveal is working as well, haven't known about that! But it would be good that org-reveal is called automatically before org-cycle, because when
> going through the task list, I'm just expanding by tab. It is not really convenient to use tab and when reaching error (or no unfold) then hitting C-c C-r.
> Maybe it's just me.
[...]
Can't you move the point at the beginning of the line before starting to
expand by tab? That way =org-speed-commands= will be available for you
and moving/expanding will be even faster.
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* Re: Unable to unfold a folded block having point directly after the folded block
2023-07-20 9:37 ` Vlastimil Vondra
2023-07-20 22:04 ` Evgenii Klimov
@ 2023-07-21 7:30 ` Ihor Radchenko
1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2023-07-21 7:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vlastimil Vondra; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Vlastimil Vondra <vlastimil.vondra@gmail.com> writes:
> Perfect, org-reveal is working as well, haven't known about that! But it
> would be good that org-reveal is called automatically before org-cycle,
> because when going through the task list, I'm just expanding by tab. It is
> not really convenient to use tab and when reaching error (or no unfold)
> then hitting C-c C-r. Maybe it's just me.
Try to customize `org-cycle-emulate-tab'. That way, `org-cycle' will try
to reveal current heading in more places instead of attempting to
perform indentation.
I do not think that calling org-reveal before org-cycle is a good idea -
it may lead to unexpected results depending on
`org-fold-show-context-detail'.
You can also create your own custom `personal/org-cycle' command that
will (1) call `org-reveal' (2) call `org-cycle'.
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
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Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
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