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* org-pretty-entities and org-cdlatex
@ 2012-09-05  9:08 Thomas Holst
  2012-09-05 10:03 ` Carsten Dominik
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Holst @ 2012-09-05  9:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: org-mode mailing list

Hello,

there is a different behaviour of sub (_) and superscripts (^) depending
on =org-pretty-entities=. When I type:

  =ab_cdef=

inside LaTeX fragments with =org-pretty-entities= enabled I get:

  \( ab_{c}def \)
          ^^^^

With =org-pretty-entities= disabled I get:

  \( ab_{cdef} \)
          ^^^^
          
I have to type <TAB> to get out of subsciript. According to cdlatex doc
the second behaviour is intended. Is this a bug or am I missing some
setup? 

Tested with emacs -Q

org-version:
Org-mode version 7.9.1
  (release_7.9.1-142-gdfea24 @
   c:/daten/users/DE_hts2fe/git/org-mode/lisp/)

emacs-version:
24.0.50.1 on WinXP

-- 
Bis neulich ...
  Thomas

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• * Re: org-pretty-entities and org-cdlatex
    2012-09-05  9:08 org-pretty-entities and org-cdlatex Thomas Holst
  @ 2012-09-05 10:03 ` Carsten Dominik
    2012-09-05 10:20   ` Thomas Holst
    0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
  From: Carsten Dominik @ 2012-09-05 10:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
    To: Thomas Holst; +Cc: org-mode mailing list
  
  
  On 5.9.2012, at 11:08, Thomas Holst wrote:
  
  > Hello,
  > 
  > there is a different behaviour of sub (_) and superscripts (^) depending
  > on =org-pretty-entities=. When I type:
  > 
  >  =ab_cdef=
  > 
  > inside LaTeX fragments with =org-pretty-entities= enabled I get:
  > 
  >  \( ab_{c}def \)
  >          ^^^^
  > 
  > With =org-pretty-entities= disabled I get:
  > 
  >  \( ab_{cdef} \)
  >          ^^^^
  
  I am not able to reproduce this, I get the second behavior always.
  
  - Carsten
  
  > 
  > I have to type <TAB> to get out of subsciript. According to cdlatex doc
  > the second behaviour is intended. Is this a bug or am I missing some
  > setup? 
  > 
  > Tested with emacs -Q
  > 
  > org-version:
  > Org-mode version 7.9.1
  >  (release_7.9.1-142-gdfea24 @
  >   c:/daten/users/DE_hts2fe/git/org-mode/lisp/)
  > 
  > emacs-version:
  > 24.0.50.1 on WinXP
  > 
  > -- 
  > Bis neulich ...
  >  Thomas
  > 
  
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• • * Re: org-pretty-entities and org-cdlatex
      2012-09-05 10:03 ` Carsten Dominik
    @ 2012-09-05 10:20   ` Thomas Holst
      2012-09-05 10:29     ` Carsten Dominik
      2012-09-05 11:10     ` Giovanni Ridolfi
      0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
    From: Thomas Holst @ 2012-09-05 10:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
      To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: Holst Thomas (DGS-EC/ESE4), org-mode mailing list
    
    Hello,
    
    · Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
    
    > On 5.9.2012, at 11:08, Thomas Holst wrote:
    >
    >> Hello,
    >> 
    >> there is a different behaviour of sub (_) and superscripts (^) depending
    >> on =org-pretty-entities=. When I type:
    >> 
    >>  =ab_cdef=
    >> 
    >> inside LaTeX fragments with =org-pretty-entities= enabled I get:
    >> 
    >>  \( ab_{c}def \)
    >>          ^^^^
    >> 
    >> With =org-pretty-entities= disabled I get:
    >> 
    >>  \( ab_{cdef} \)
    >>          ^^^^
    >
    > I am not able to reproduce this, I get the second behavior always.
    >
    > - Carsten
    >
    
    I also tested it with emacs 23.2 on WinXP. I get different results
    depending on =org-pretty-entititis=.
    
    I will try it on my Ubuntu machine at home and come back with the
    results. Maybe it is a problem related to emacs on Windows.
    
    Thanks for looking into this.
    
    -- 
    Bis neulich ...
      Thomas
    
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  • • * Re: org-pretty-entities and org-cdlatex
        2012-09-05 10:20   ` Thomas Holst
      @ 2012-09-05 10:29     ` Carsten Dominik
        2012-09-05 10:41       ` Thomas Holst
        2012-09-05 11:10     ` Giovanni Ridolfi
        1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
      From: Carsten Dominik @ 2012-09-05 10:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
        To: Thomas Holst; +Cc: org-mode mailing list
      
      
      On 5.9.2012, at 12:20, Thomas Holst wrote:
      
      > Hello,
      > 
      > · Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
      > 
      >> On 5.9.2012, at 11:08, Thomas Holst wrote:
      >> 
      >>> Hello,
      >>> 
      >>> there is a different behaviour of sub (_) and superscripts (^) depending
      >>> on =org-pretty-entities=. When I type:
      >>> 
      >>> =ab_cdef=
      >>> 
      >>> inside LaTeX fragments with =org-pretty-entities= enabled I get:
      >>> 
      >>> \( ab_{c}def \)
      >>>         ^^^^
      >>> 
      >>> With =org-pretty-entities= disabled I get:
      >>> 
      >>> \( ab_{cdef} \)
      >>>         ^^^^
      >> 
      >> I am not able to reproduce this, I get the second behavior always.
      >> 
      >> - Carsten
      >> 
      > 
      > I also tested it with emacs 23.2 on WinXP. I get different results
      > depending on =org-pretty-entititis=.
      > 
      > I will try it on my Ubuntu machine at home and come back with the
      > results. Maybe it is a problem related to emacs on Windows.
      > 
      > Thanks for looking into this.
      
      Do you have any settings for cdlatex.el?  I guess not because you are using -Q….
      
      - Carsten
      
      > 
      > -- 
      > Bis neulich ...
      >  Thomas
      
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    • • * Re: org-pretty-entities and org-cdlatex
          2012-09-05 10:29     ` Carsten Dominik
        @ 2012-09-05 10:41       ` Thomas Holst
          2012-09-05 11:32         ` Thomas Holst
          0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
        From: Thomas Holst @ 2012-09-05 10:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
          To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: Holst Thomas (DGS-EC/ESE4), org-mode mailing list
        
        Hi Casten,
        
        · Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
        > On 5.9.2012, at 12:20, Thomas Holst wrote:
        >
        [... snip ...]
        >>> 
        >>> I am not able to reproduce this, I get the second behavior always.
        >>> 
        >>> - Carsten
        >>> 
        >> 
        >> I also tested it with emacs 23.2 on WinXP. I get different results
        >> depending on =org-pretty-entititis=.
        >> 
        >> I will try it on my Ubuntu machine at home and come back with the
        >> results. Maybe it is a problem related to emacs on Windows.
        >> 
        >> Thanks for looking into this.
        >
        > Do you have any settings for cdlatex.el?  I guess not because you are using -Q….
        
        I have no settings for cdlatex. I started emacs in a cmd shell with:
        
        start C:\Programme\gnu\emacs-24.0.50.1\bin\emacs.exe -Q --eval "(load-file \"~/emacs/Testing/init.el\")"
        
        With init.el containing:
        
        #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
          ;; -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
          ;; Pfade auf lokales org-mode git-repository setzen
          ;; -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
          (add-to-list 'load-path "~/git/org-mode/lisp")
          (add-to-list 'load-path "~/git/site-lisp")
          (add-to-list 'load-path "~/git/site-lisp/auctex")
          ;; pfad zu contib/lisp
          (add-to-list 'load-path "~/git/org-mode/contrib/lisp")
          (add-to-list 'load-path "~/git/org-mode/contrib/babel/lisp")
        
          (require 'org-install)
          ;; (require 'org-export)
          ;; (require 'org-e-latex)
          (require 'cdlatex)
          (find-file "c:/daten/users/DE_hts2fe/emacs/OrgMode/testing/testing.org")
          (turn-on-org-cdlatex)
        #+END_SRC
        
        And Testing.org containing:
        
        #+BEGIN_SRC org
          #+TITLE:     new-exporter.org
          #+AUTHOR:    Thomas Holst
          #+EMAIL:     thomas.holst@de.bosch.com
          #+DATE:      2012-07-16 Mo
          #+DESCRIPTION:
          #+KEYWORDS:
          #+LANGUAGE:  en
          #+OPTIONS:   H:3 num:t toc:t \n:nil @:t ::t |:t ^:{} -:t f:t *:t <:t
          #+OPTIONS:   TeX:t LaTeX:t skip:nil d:t todo:t pri:nil tags:t
          #+INFOJS_OPT: view:nil toc:nil ltoc:t mouse:underline buttons:0 path:http://orgmode.org/org-info.js
          #+EXPORT_SELECT_TAGS: export
          #+EXPORT_EXCLUDE_TAGS: noexport
          #+LINK_UP:   
          #+LINK_HOME: 
          #+XSLT:
          #+LATEX_CLASS: article
        
          * org-cdlatex and org-pretty-entities
        
            \( ab_{c}def \)
            \( ab_{cdef} \)
        #+END_SRC
        
        As said before I will test it on my Ubuntu machine at home. But it will
        be tomorrow evening till I have time to perform the test.
        
        Thanks again.
        
        -- 
        Bis neulich ...
          Thomas
        
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      • • * Re: org-pretty-entities and org-cdlatex
            2012-09-05 10:41       ` Thomas Holst
          @ 2012-09-05 11:32         ` Thomas Holst
            0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
          From: Thomas Holst @ 2012-09-05 11:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
            To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: Thomas Holst, org-mode mailing list
          
          Hi Carsten,
          
          here is an update on the subject. I performed a another test with emacs
          23.3.1 under cygwin X11. I see same behaviour as under WinXP.
          
          Maybe I have to clarifiy what I did. So here is a step by step
          procedure.
          
          Inside an orgmode document do the following:
          
            Set =org-pretty-entities= to nil
          
            (setq org-pretty-entities nil)  C-x C-e
          
            now type =ab_cdef= inside a LaTeX environment \(  \). As a result I get:
          
            \( ab_{cdef} \)
          
            Now turn on =org-pretty-entities=
          
            (setq org-pretty-entities t) or C-c C-x \ and again type =ab_cdef= in
            an LaTeX environment. As a result I get:
          
            \( ab_{c}def \)
          
            Which is not what cdlatex doc says.
          
          I tested this with 
          emacs-version  23.3.1 under cygwin
                         23.2 under WinXP
                         24.0.50.1 under WinXP
          
          Emacs started as posted in my pevious post. =emacs -Q= and minimal
          org-mode and org-cdlatex setup.
          
          org-mode Version:
          (org-version)
          release_7.9.1-138-geeb5b9 @ c:/daten/users/DE_hts2fe/git/org-mode/lisp/
          
          I get the same results in all tree cases.
          
          I hope that clarifies what I ment originally. Sorry for not beeing clear.
          
          -- 
          Bis neulich ...
            Thomas
          
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    • * Re: org-pretty-entities and org-cdlatex
        2012-09-05 10:20   ` Thomas Holst
        2012-09-05 10:29     ` Carsten Dominik
      @ 2012-09-05 11:10     ` Giovanni Ridolfi
        2012-09-07  8:19       ` Thomas Holst
        1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
      From: Giovanni Ridolfi @ 2012-09-05 11:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
        To: Thomas Holst, Carsten Dominik; +Cc: org-mode mailing list
      
      Da: Thomas Holst <thomas.holst@de.bosch.com>
      Inviato: Mercoledì 5 Settembre 2012 12:20
      
      >· Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      >> On 5.9.2012, at 11:08, Thomas Holst wrote:
      >
      >>> Hello,
      >> 
      >>> there is a different behaviour of sub (_) and superscripts (^) depending
      >>> on =org-pretty-entities=. When I type:
      >>> 
      >>>  =ab_cdef=
      >>> 
      >>> inside LaTeX fragments with =org-pretty-entities= enabled I get:
      >>> 
      >>>  \( ab_{c}def \)
      >> >         ^^^^
      >>> 
      >>> With =org-pretty-entities= disabled I get:
      >>> 
      >>>  \( ab_{cdef} \)
      >>>          ^^^^
      >>
      >> I am not able to reproduce this, I get the second behavior always.
      
      > I also tested it with emacs 23.2 on WinXP. 
      
      > Maybe it is a problem related to emacs on Windows.
      Hi, Thomas and Carsten,
      
      I downloaded texmathp.el from here:
      https://raw.github.com/jwiegley/auctex/master/texmathp.el
      cdlatex from here:
      http://staff.science.uva.nl/~dominik/Tools/cdlatex/cdlatex.el
      
      loaded them M-x load-file
      
      Org-mode version 7.9.1 (c276eeebeec 
      GNU Emacs 24.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601) of 2012-06-10 on MARVIN
      Windows 7
      
      org-pretty-entities  nil  (default)
      
      M-x org-cdlatex-mode
      
      ** CDLatex
      
      \( ab_{cdef} \)
      
      if org-pretty-entities on (via customization interface)  I get: 
      
      \(  ab_{c}def  \)
      
      so I confirm the behaviour of Thomas under Windows
      
      cheers
      Giovanni
      
      
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    • • * Re: org-pretty-entities and org-cdlatex
          2012-09-05 11:10     ` Giovanni Ridolfi
        @ 2012-09-07  8:19       ` Thomas Holst
          0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
        From: Thomas Holst @ 2012-09-07  8:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
          To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: Holst Thomas (DGS-EC/ESE4), org-mode mailing list
        
        Hi,
        
        · Giovanni Ridolfi <giovanni.ridolfi@yahoo.it> wrote:
        > Da: Thomas Holst <thomas.holst@de.bosch.com>
        > Inviato: Mercoledì 5 Settembre 2012 12:20
        >>· Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
        >
        >>> On 5.9.2012, at 11:08, Thomas Holst wrote:
        >>
        >>>> Hello,
        >>> 
        >>>> there is a different behaviour of sub (_) and superscripts (^) depending
        >>>> on =org-pretty-entities=. When I type:
        >>>> 
        >>>>  =ab_cdef=
        >>>> 
        >>>> inside LaTeX fragments with =org-pretty-entities= enabled I get:
        >>>> 
        >>>>  \( ab_{c}def \)
        >>>>         ^^^^
        >>>> 
        >>>> With =org-pretty-entities= disabled I get:
        >>>> 
        >>>>  \( ab_{cdef} \)
        >>>>          ^^^^
        >>>
        >>> I am not able to reproduce this, I get the second behavior always.
        >
        >> I also tested it with emacs 23.2 on WinXP. 
        >
        >> Maybe it is a problem related to emacs on Windows.
        > Hi, Thomas and Carsten,
        > [ confirms behaviour on Windows ]
        > Giovanni
        
        yesterday I tested it under Ubuntu 12.04 and emacs 23.2.
        
        Typing =ab_cdef= inside a LaTeX fragment results in
        
        \( ab_{c}def \) with org-pretty-entities enabled and
        \( ab_{cdef} \) with org-pretty-entities disabled
        
        I even tested it in a terminal with emacs 23.2.1 under cygwin. Same
        result.
        
        I tried to debug this. But my elisp is too limited to get a clue what is
        going on here.
        
        Thanks for looking into this.
        -- 
        Bis neulich ...
          Thomas
        
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