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* Bug: \vert{} exported to markdown not as expected [8.3.1 (8.3.1-103-g366dc4-elpa @ /home/bitouze/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150907/)]
@ 2015-09-12 14:02 Denis Bitouzé
  2015-09-13 20:04 ` Nicolas Goaziou
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Denis Bitouzé @ 2015-09-12 14:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode



Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and
what in fact did happen.  You don't know how to make a good report?  See

     http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback

Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list.
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The following file:

#+NAME: test.org
#+begin_src org
Foo |bar_baz|

Foo \vert{}bar\under{}baz\vert{}
#+end_src

is exported to markdown as follows:

#+NAME: test.md
#+begin_src markdown
Foo |bar\_baz|

Foo |bar_baz|
#+end_src

Whereas:

- \under{} gives the expected underscore symbol (_),
- \vert{} gives | instead of the expected pipe symbol (|).

Emacs  : GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.8)
 of 2015-06-29 on drums.chezmoi.fr
Package: Org-mode version 8.3.1 (8.3.1-103-g366dc4-elpa @ /home/bitouze/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150907/)

current state:
==============
(setq
 org-entities-user '(("nok" "{\\color{red}\\ding{55}}" nil "<font
 color='red'>&#x2718;</font>" "NOK"
                      "NOK" "✘")
                     ("ok" "{\\color{checkmark}\\ding{51}}" nil "<font
 color='green'>&#x2714;</font>"
                      "OK" "OK" "✔")
                     )
 org-enforce-todo-checkbox-dependencies t
 org-inlinetask-default-state "TODO"
 org-agenda-search-view-always-boolean t
 org-agenda-log-mode-items '(clock)
 org-latex-format-headline-function 'leuven--org-latex-format-headline
 org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c-hook '(org-babel-hash-at-point org-babel-execute-safely-maybe)
 org-pretty-entities t
 org-latex-packages-alist '(("" "listings") ("" "xcolor") ("french" "babel"))
 org-html-format-inlinetask-function 'org-html-format-inlinetask-default-function
 org-stuck-projects '("+LEVEL=2/-DONE" ("TODO" "STRT") nil "")
 org-refile-use-cache t
 org-clock-in-resume t
 org-clock-out-when-done nil
 org-log-states-order-reversed nil
 org-odt-preferred-output-format "doc"
 org-agenda-sticky t
 org-goto-interface 'outline-path-completion
 outline-minor-mode-hook '(leuven--outline-minor-mode-hook
                           (lambda nil
                            (if (and outline-minor-mode (derived-mode-p (quote
                                                                         emacs-lisp-mode)))
                             (progn (hide-sublevels 1000)))
                            )
                           )
 org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-done t
 org-ellipsis " ►"
 org-clock-persist t
 org-archive-location "::* Archive"
 org-agenda-window-setup 'current-window
 org-adapt-indentation nil
 org-agenda-entry-text-leaders "               │ "
 org-agenda-scheduled-leaders '("Scheduled  " "           ")
 org-clock-mode-line-total 'all
 org-tab-first-hook '(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe
                      org-babel-hide-result-toggle-maybe
                      org-babel-header-arg-expand)
 org-agenda-exporter-settings '((ps-number-of-columns 1) (ps-landscape-mode t)
                                (htmlize-output-type (quote css)))
 org-archive-hook '(org-attach-archive-delete-maybe)
 org-refile-targets '((nil :maxlevel . 4) (nil :maxlevel . 2))
 org-html-htmlize-output-type 'css
 org-modules '(org-info org-habit org-gnus org-id org-checklist)
 org-cycle-hook '(org-inlinetask-hide-tasks org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees
                  org-cycle-hide-drawers
                  org-cycle-show-empty-lines org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
 org-html-checkbox-type 'unicode
 org-mime-send-subtree-hook '((lambda nil
                               (org-entry-put (point) "mail_composed"
                                (current-time-string)))
                              )
 org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text)
 org-confirm-babel-evaluate nil
 org-speed-command-hook '(org-speed-command-default-hook org-babel-speed-command-hook)
 org-src-window-setup 'current-window
 org-ascii-format-inlinetask-function 'org-ascii-format-inlinetask-default
 org-export-preprocess-hook '(leuven--org-export-preprocess-hook)
 org-clock-total-time-cell-format "%s"
 org-export-snippet-translation-alist '(("b" . "beamer") ("l" . "latex") ("h" . "html"))
 org-agenda-current-time-string "Right now"
 org-blocker-hook '(org-block-todo-from-checkboxes org-block-todo-from-children-or-siblings-or-parent)
 org-fontify-done-headline t
 org-agenda-skip-deadline-prewarning-if-scheduled 7
 org-agenda-restore-windows-after-quit t
 org-return-follows-link t
 org-babel-pre-tangle-hook '(save-buffer)
 org-agenda-diary-file "~/org/diary.org"
 org-export-time-stamp-file nil
 org-occur-hook '(org-first-headline-recenter)
 org-emphasis-alist '(("*" bold "<b>" "</b>") ("/" italic "<i>" "</i>")
                      ("_" underline "<span
 style=\"text-decoration:underline;\">" "</span>")
                      ("=" org-verbatim "<code>" "</code>" verbatim)
                      ("~" org-code "<code>" "</code>" verbatim))
 org-font-lock-hook '(org-inlinetask-fontify)
 org-agenda-auto-exclude-function 'leuven--org-auto-exclude-function
 org-refile-target-verify-function 'bh/verify-refile-target
 org-speed-commands-user '(("y" org-todo-yesterday "DONE") ("d" org-todo "DONE"))
 org-src-lang-modes '(("dot" . graphviz-dot) ("ocaml" . tuareg) ("elisp"
                                                                 . emacs-lisp)
                      ("ditaa" . artist) ("asymptote" . asy) ("dot"
                                                              . fundamental) ("sqlite" . sql)
                      ("calc" . fundamental) ("C" . c) ("cpp" . c++) ("C++"
                                                                      . c++)
                      ("screen" . shell-script) ("shell" . sh) ("bash" . sh))
 org-log-redeadline 'time
 org-clock-history-length 35
 org-deadline-warning-days 7
 org-html-format-headline-function 'org-html-format-headline-default-function
 org-structure-template-alist '(("E" "\\begin{equation}\n?\n\\end{equation}" "")
                                ("C" "#+begin_comment\n?\n#+end_comment")
                                ("t" "#+begin_tip\n?\n#+end_tip")
                                ("w" "#+begin_warning\n?\n#+end_warning")
                                ("n" "#+begin_note\n?\n#+end_note") ("s"
                                                                     "#+begin_src ?\n\n#+end_src")
                                ("e" "#+begin_example\n?\n#+end_example")
                                ("q" "#+begin_quote\n?\n#+end_quote")
                                ("v" "#+begin_verse\n?\n#+end_verse")
                                ("V" "#+begin_verbatim\n?\n#+end_verbatim")
                                ("c" "#+begin_center\n?\n#+end_center")
                                ("l" "#+begin_latex\n?\n#+end_latex") ("L"
                                                                       "#+latex: ")
                                ("h" "#+begin_html\n?\n#+end_html") ("H"
                                                                     "#+html: ")
                                ("a" "#+begin_ascii\n?\n#+end_ascii") ("A"
                                                                       "#+ascii: ")
                                ("i" "#+index: ?") ("I" "#+include: %file ?"))
 org-export-with-sub-superscripts '{}
 org-use-sub-superscripts '{}
 org-refile-allow-creating-parent-nodes 'confirm
 org-clock-out-remove-zero-time-clocks t
 org-agenda-skip-timestamp-if-done t
 org-metaup-hook '(org-babel-load-in-session-maybe)
 org-reveal-start-hook '(org-decrypt-entry)
 org-confirm-elisp-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
 org-clock-file-time-cell-format "%s"
 org-fast-tag-selection-single-key t
 org-id-link-to-org-use-id 'create-if-interactive-and-no-custom-id
 org-cycle-include-plain-lists nil
 org-agenda-sorting-strategy '((agenda time-up category-up priority-down
                                effort-down)
                               (todo category-up priority-down effort-down)
                               (tags category-up priority-down effort-down) (search category-up))
 org-log-into-drawer t
 org-tag-faces '(("refile" (:slant italic :foreground "#A9876E"))
                 ("personal" (:slant italic :foreground "#5C88D3"))
                 ("work" (:slant italic :foreground "#699761"))
                 ("FLAGGED" (:weight bold :slant italic :foreground
                             "white" :background "#DB2D27"))
                 ("now" (:slant italic :foreground "#000000"))
                 ("notbillable" (:slant italic :foreground "#8774AF")))
 org-publish-list-skipped-files nil
 org-default-notes-file "~/org/notes.org"
 org-columns-default-format "%60ITEM(Details) %5PRIORITY(Prio) %14SCHEDULED(Scheduled) %15TAGS(Context) %7TODO(To Do) %6CLOCKSUM(Clock) %5Effort(Effort){:} "
 org-priority-faces '((65 :weight bold :foreground "#5F3731" :background
                       "#EFC4C0")
                      (66 :foreground "#475443" :background "#D5E1D0")
                      (67 :foreground "#2D373F" :background "#C9DBE3"))
 org-latex-format-drawer-function '(lambda (name contents) contents)
 org-babel-after-execute-hook '(org-display-inline-images)
 org-agenda-block-separator #("____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________" 0 132 (face (:foreground "#59ACE2")))
 org-src-tab-acts-natively t
 org-agenda-span 'day
 org-habit-show-habits-only-for-today nil
 org-hide-macro-markers t
 org-export-backends '(ascii html icalendar latex odt md)
 org-agenda-format-date "%Y-%m-%d %a                                                                  _"
 org-refile-use-outline-path 'file
 org-blank-before-new-entry '((heading . t) (plain-list-item . auto))
 org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks nil
 org-agenda-deadline-faces '((1.0001 . leuven-org-deadline-overdue)
                             (0.9999 . leuven-org-deadline-today)
                             (0.8571 . leuven-org-deadline-tomorrow)
                             (0.0 . leuven-org-deadline-future))
 outline-minor-mode-prefix "\x0f"
 org-treat-S-cursor-todo-selection-as-state-change nil
 org-tag-alist '((:startgroup) ("personal" . 112) ("work" . 119) (:endgroup)
                 ("call" . 99)
                 ("errands" . 101) ("finance" . 102) ("mail" . 109)
                 ("notbillable" . 66)
                 ("ARCHIVE" . 97) ("crypt" . 67) ("FLAGGED" . 63))
 org-agenda-persistent-filter t
 org-global-properties '(("Effort_ALL" . "0 0:10 0:30 1:00 2:00 3:00 4:00 5:00 6:00 8:00"))
 org-highlight-latex-and-related '(latex script entities)
 org-clock-out-hook '(org-clock-remove-empty-clock-drawer)
 org-link-abbrev-alist '(("cache" . "http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:%s")
                         ("dictionary" .
                          "http://www.dict.org/bin/Dict?Database=*&Form=Dict1&Strategy=*&Query=%s")
                         ("google" . "http://www.google.com/search?q=%s")
                         ("googlegroups"
                          . "http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%s")
                         ("googlemaps" . "http://maps.google.com/maps?q=%s")
                         ("imdb" . "http://us.imdb.com/Title?%s")
                         ("openstreetmap"
                          . "http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/search?q=%s&polygon=1")
                         ("wpen" . "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%s")
                         ("wpfr" . "http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%s"))
 org-agenda-prefix-format '((agenda . " %-11s%i %?-12t") (timeline . " % s")
                            (todo . " %i %-12:c")
                            (tags . " %i %-12:c") (search . " %i %-12:c"))
 org-image-actual-width '(320)
 org-latex-default-figure-position "!htbp"
 org-use-speed-commands t
 org-agenda-skip-deadline-if-done t
 org-export-before-parsing-hook '(leuven--change-pdflatex-packages leuven--change-pdflatex-program)
 org-list-description-max-indent 3
 org-enforce-todo-dependencies t
 org-mode-hook '(org-clock-load (lambda nil (local-set-key (kbd "C-c m")
                                             (function org-mime-subtree)))
                 #[nil "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
                   [org-add-hook before-save-hook org-encrypt-entries nil t] 5]
                 #[nil "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
                   [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-show-block-all
                    append local] 5]
                 #[nil "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
                   [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook
                    org-babel-show-result-all append local] 5]
                 org-babel-result-hide-spec org-babel-hide-all-hashes
                 leuven--org-add-electric-pairs
                 leuven--org-switch-dictionary
                 (lambda nil (require (quote org-clock)) (setq org-clock-persist
                                                          t)
                  (org-clock-persistence-insinuate))
                 (lambda nil (local-set-key (kbd "C-M-n") (function
                                                           outline-next-visible-heading))
                  (local-set-key (kbd "C-M-p") (function
                                                outline-previous-visible-heading))
                  (local-set-key (kbd "C-M-u") (function outline-up-heading)))
                 (lambda nil (local-set-key (kbd "C-M-w") (function
                                                           org-table-copy-region))
                  (local-set-key (kbd "C-M-y") (function
                                                org-table-paste-rectangle))
                  (local-unset-key (kbd "C-c SPC")) (local-unset-key (kbd "C-c
 C-<")))
                 fci-mode
                 (lambda nil
                  (if
                   (or (eq (aref (buffer-name) 0) 32)
                    (and (boundp (quote org-babel-exp-reference-buffer))
                     org-babel-exp-reference-buffer)
                    )
                   (message "DON'T TURN ON Flyspell mode in `%s'" (buffer-name))
                   (message "Turn on Flyspell mode in `%s'" (buffer-name))
                   (flyspell-mode))
                  )
                 org-src-block-check)
 org-time-clocksum-format '(:hours "%d" :require-hours t :minutes ":%02d" :require-minutes t)
 org-agenda-clockreport-parameter-plist '(:link t :maxlevel 3 :fileskip0 t)
 org-insert-mode-line-in-empty-file t
 org-export-with-smart-quotes t
 org-special-ctrl-a/e 'reversed
 org-startup-with-inline-images t
 org-agenda-start-on-weekday nil
 org-latex-pdf-process '("latexmk --version" "latexmk -cd -f -pdf -pdflatex=pdflatex %f && latexmk -c")
 org-table-export-default-format "orgtbl-to-csv"
 org-agenda-mode-hook '((lambda nil (local-set-key (kbd "C-c m") (function leuven-mail-subtree))))
 org-habit-today-glyph 9483
 org-ascii-format-drawer-function '(lambda (name contents width) contents)
 org-tags-exclude-from-inheritance '("crypt")
 org-babel-results-keyword "results"
 org-odt-format-drawer-function '(lambda (name contents) contents)
 org-clock-idle-time 120
 org-agenda-inhibit-startup t
 org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-deadline-is-shown t
 org-show-context-detail '((occur-tree . minimal) (tags-tree . minimal) (isearch
                                                                         . lineage)
                           (bookmark-jump . lineage) (default . ancestors))
 org-gnus-prefer-web-links t
 org-latex-listings t
 org-finalize-agenda-hook '(org-agenda-to-appt
                            (lambda nil
                             (let ((inhibit-read-only t)) (goto-char
                                                           (point-min))
                              (org-do-emphasis-faces (point-max)))
                             )
                            (lambda nil
                             (remove-text-properties (point-min) (point-max)
                              (quote (mouse-face t))))
                            leuven--org-agenda-right-justify-tags)
 org-read-date-prefer-future 'time
 org-time-stamp-rounding-minutes '(1 1)
 org-export-allow-bind-keywords t
 org-html-format-drawer-function '(lambda (name contents) contents)
 org-src-preserve-indentation t
 org-loop-over-headlines-in-active-region 'start-level
 org-open-non-existing-files t
 org-babel-no-eval-on-ctrl-c-ctrl-c t
 org-export-with-priority t
 org-tags-column -80
 org-latex-image-default-width ".75\\linewidth"
 org-hide-emphasis-markers t
 org-clock-in-switch-to-state 'leuven--org-switch-to-started
 org-odt-format-headline-function 'org-odt-format-headline-default-function
 org-latex-link-with-unknown-path-format "\\colorbox{red}{%s}"
 org-metadown-hook '(org-babel-pop-to-session-maybe)
 org-todo-keywords '((sequence "NEW(n!)" "TODO(t!)" "STRT(s!)" "WAIT(w!)"
                      "SDAY(y!)" "|" "DONE(d!)"
                      "CANX(x!)")
                     (sequence "QTE(q!)" "QTD(Q!)" "|" "APP(A!)" "REJ(R!)")
                     (sequence "OPENPO(O!)" "|" "CLSDPO(C!)"))
 org-startup-folded nil
 org-habit-completed-glyph 10004
 org-agenda-time-grid '((daily remove-match) "" (800 1000 1200 1400 1600 1800 2000))
 org-clock-in-prepare-hook '(leuven--org-ask-effort)
 org-clock-display-default-range 'untilnow
 org-todo-repeat-to-state "TODO"
 org-agenda-search-headline-for-time nil
 org-agenda-finalize-hook '(org-agenda-to-appt
                            (lambda nil
                             (let ((inhibit-read-only t)) (goto-char
                                                           (point-min))
                              (org-do-emphasis-faces (point-max)))
                             )
                            (lambda nil
                             (remove-text-properties (point-min) (point-max)
                              (quote (mouse-face t))))
                            leuven--org-agenda-right-justify-tags)
 org-list-allow-alphabetical t
 org-fontify-whole-heading-line t
 org-clock-report-include-clocking-task t
 org-clock-sound "~/Public/Music/Sounds/alarm.wav"
 org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-babel-configure-edit-buffer org-src-mode-configure-edit-buffer)
 org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current)
 org-html-head-include-scripts nil
 org-url-hexify-p nil
 org-odt-format-inlinetask-function 'org-odt-format-inlinetask-default-function
 org-babel-tangle-lang-exts '(("awk" . "awk") ("java" . "java") ("latex"
                                                                 . "tex") ("python" . "py")
                              ("emacs-lisp" . "el") ("elisp" . "el"))
 org-todo-keyword-faces '(("NEW" . leuven-org-created-kwd) ("TODO" . org-todo)
                          ("STRT" . leuven-org-in-progress-kwd) ("WAIT"
                                                                 . leuven-org-waiting-for-kwd)
                          ("SDAY" . leuven-org-someday-kwd) ("DONE" . org-done)
                          ("CANX" . org-done)
                          ("QTE" . leuven-org-quote-kwd) ("QTD"
                                                          . leuven-org-quoted-kwd)
                          ("APP" . leuven-org-approved-kwd) ("REJ"
                                                             . leuven-org-rejected-kwd)
                          ("OPENPO" . leuven-org-openpo-kwd) ("CLSDPO" . leuven-org-closedpo-kwd))
 org-babel-load-languages '((sql . t) (shell . t) (python . t) (org . t)
                            (makefile . t) (ledger . t)
                            (latex . t) (java . t) (dot . t) (ditaa . t) (awk
                                                                          . t) (R . t)
                            (emacs-lisp . t))
 org-babel-R-command "R --slave --no-save --ess --encoding=UTF-8"
 org-agenda-deadline-leaders '("Deadline   " "In %d d" "%d d ago")
 org-agenda-tags-todo-honor-ignore-options t
 org-latex-format-inlinetask-function 'org-latex-format-inlinetask-default-function
 org-after-todo-statistics-hook '(leuven--org-summary-todo)
 org-fontify-quote-and-verse-blocks t
 org-confirm-shell-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
 org-agenda-clock-consistency-checks '(:max-duration "10:00" :min-duration
                                       0 :max-gap "0:00"
                                       :gap-ok-around ("4:00") :default-face
                                       ((:weight bold :box (:line-width 1 :color
                                                            "#AAEE77")
                                         :foreground "black" :background
                                         "#BFFA9E")
                                        )
                                       :gap-face
                                       ((:weight bold :box (:line-width 1 :color
                                                            "#BBDDFF")
                                         :foreground "black" :background
                                         "#D0EDFF")
                                        )
                                       )
 )
-- 
Denis

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* Re: Bug: \vert{} exported to markdown not as expected [8.3.1 (8.3.1-103-g366dc4-elpa @ /home/bitouze/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150907/)]
  2015-09-12 14:02 Bug: \vert{} exported to markdown not as expected [8.3.1 (8.3.1-103-g366dc4-elpa @ /home/bitouze/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150907/)] Denis Bitouzé
@ 2015-09-13 20:04 ` Nicolas Goaziou
       [not found]   ` <87bnd6ulv0.fsf-Gpy5sJQTEQHwkn9pgDnJRVAUjnlXr6A1@public.gmane.org>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2015-09-13 20:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Denis Bitouzé; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

dbitouze@wanadoo.fr (Denis Bitouzé) writes:

> The following file:
>
> #+NAME: test.org
> #+begin_src org
> Foo |bar_baz|
>
> Foo \vert{}bar\under{}baz\vert{}
> #+end_src
>
> is exported to markdown as follows:
>
> #+NAME: test.md
> #+begin_src markdown
> Foo |bar\_baz|
>
> Foo &vert;bar_baz&vert;
> #+end_src
>
> Whereas:
>
> - \under{} gives the expected underscore symbol (_),
> - \vert{} gives &vert; instead of the expected pipe symbol (|).

What is wrong with &vert;? Doesn't Markdown accept HTML entities anyway?

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

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* Re: Bug: \vert{} exported to markdown not as expected [8.3.1 (8.3.1-103-g366dc4-elpa @ /home/bitouze/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150907/)]
       [not found]   ` <87bnd6ulv0.fsf-Gpy5sJQTEQHwkn9pgDnJRVAUjnlXr6A1@public.gmane.org>
@ 2015-09-13 20:26     ` Denis Bitouzé
  2015-09-13 20:47       ` Nicolas Goaziou
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Denis Bitouzé @ 2015-09-13 20:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ

Le 13/09/15 à 22h04, Nicolas Goaziou <mail-Gpy5sJQTEQHwkn9pgDnJRVAUjnlXr6A1@public.gmane.org> a écrit :

> Hello,

Hello,

> dbitouze-39ZsbGIQGT5GWvitb5QawA@public.gmane.org (Denis Bitouzé) writes:
>
>> The following file:
>>
>> #+NAME: test.org
>> #+begin_src org
>> Foo |bar_baz|
>>
>> Foo \vert{}bar\under{}baz\vert{}
>> #+end_src
>>
>> is exported to markdown as follows:
>>
>> #+NAME: test.md
>> #+begin_src markdown
>> Foo |bar\_baz|
>>
>> Foo &vert;bar_baz&vert;
>> #+end_src
>>
>> Whereas:
>>
>> - \under{} gives the expected underscore symbol (_),
>> - \vert{} gives &vert; instead of the expected pipe symbol (|).
>
> What is wrong with &vert;? Doesn't Markdown accept HTML entities
> anyway?

The point is the following: the site where the .md file (exported from
the .org file) will be used has this (maybe current) feature to be able
to interpret strings such as:

|REP_TO_COMMENT|

Hence, I have to export "real" _ and |.

1. For _, \under{} is necessary since _ at the org mode level is
   exported as \_.
2. For |, source | could be okay. But I'd like to use strings as above
   in tables and, AFAIK, the only way to have pipe symbols in a table at
   the org mode level is to code them \vert{}.  And that's the purpose
   of my bug report, \vert{} is exported as &vert;, not as "real" |.

In other words, I was happy with \under{} that exports real _ and, IMHO,
\vert{} should do the same with |.

Regards.
-- 
Denis

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* Re: Bug: \vert{} exported to markdown not as expected [8.3.1 (8.3.1-103-g366dc4-elpa @ /home/bitouze/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150907/)]
  2015-09-13 20:26     ` Denis Bitouzé
@ 2015-09-13 20:47       ` Nicolas Goaziou
  2015-09-14  0:10         ` Charles C. Berry
       [not found]         ` <87y4gat5az.fsf-Gpy5sJQTEQHwkn9pgDnJRVAUjnlXr6A1@public.gmane.org>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2015-09-13 20:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Denis Bitouzé; +Cc: public-emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ



Denis Bitouzé <dbitouze-39ZsbGIQGT5GWvitb5QawA@public.gmane.org> writes:

> 1. For _, \under{} is necessary since _ at the org mode level is
>    exported as \_.
> 2. For |, source | could be okay. But I'd like to use strings as above
>    in tables and, AFAIK, the only way to have pipe symbols in a table at
>    the org mode level is to code them \vert{}.  And that's the purpose
>    of my bug report, \vert{} is exported as &vert;, not as "real" |.
>
> In other words, I was happy with \under{} that exports real _ and, IMHO,
> \vert{} should do the same with |.

Markdown export back-end use :html conventions to translate entities.
For some reason, HTML prefers &vert; over |, and so does markdown.

There are a few options available:

  1. Prefer | over &vert; in HTML
  2. Overwrite "vert" entity with a new one that would do 1. So
     basically, this is 1 but on your machine only.
  3. Use a new entity that becomes | when used in HTML export.

WDYT?

Regards,

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* Re: Bug: \vert{} exported to markdown not as expected [8.3.1 (8.3.1-103-g366dc4-elpa @ /home/bitouze/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150907/)]
  2015-09-13 20:47       ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2015-09-14  0:10         ` Charles C. Berry
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  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Charles C. Berry @ 2015-09-14  0:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Denis Bitouzé, public-emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ

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On Sun, 13 Sep 2015, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:

>
>
> Denis Bitouzé <dbitouze-39ZsbGIQGT5GWvitb5QawA@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
[...]

> Markdown export back-end use :html conventions to translate entities.
> For some reason, HTML prefers &vert; over |, and so does markdown.
>
> There are a few options available:
>
>  1. Prefer | over &vert; in HTML
>  2. Overwrite "vert" entity with a new one that would do 1. So
>     basically, this is 1 but on your machine only.
>  3. Use a new entity that becomes | when used in HTML export.
>

If this creates a backend derived from 'md (and does not modify ox-md.el),
then fine. But, ...

It seem like there are flavors of Markdown that use verticals for varying 
purposes. For example, rmarkdown

 	http://rmarkdown.rstudio.com/authoring_pandoc_markdown.html

uses them as `line block' markers and to construct `table.el' style 
tables.

And I have seen verticals used to set off citations elsewhere.

And I am not even sure what Denis meant by using them to `interpret 
strings'.

Best,

Chuck

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* Re: Bug: \vert{} exported to markdown not as expected [8.3.1 (8.3.1-103-g366dc4-elpa @ /home/bitouze/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150907/)]
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  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Denis Bitouzé @ 2015-09-14  6:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Nicolas Goaziou
  Cc: Denis Bitouzé,
	public-emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ-wOFGN7rlS/M9smdsby/KFg




Le 13/09/15 à 22h47, Nicolas Goaziou <mail-Gpy5sJQTEQHwkn9pgDnJRVAUjnlXr6A1@public.gmane.org> a écrit :

> Denis Bitouzé <dbitouze-39ZsbGIQGT5GWvitb5QawA-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
>> 1. For _, \under{} is necessary since _ at the org mode level is
>>    exported as \_.
>> 2. For |, source | could be okay. But I'd like to use strings as above
>>    in tables and, AFAIK, the only way to have pipe symbols in a table at
>>    the org mode level is to code them \vert{}.  And that's the purpose
>>    of my bug report, \vert{} is exported as &vert;, not as "real" |.
>>
>> In other words, I was happy with \under{} that exports real _ and,
>> IMHO, \vert{} should do the same with |.
>
> Markdown export back-end use :html conventions to translate entities.
> For some reason, HTML prefers &vert; over |, and so does markdown.

&vert; and | are displayed the same way but can have different
"meanings".

> There are a few options available:
>
>   1. Prefer | over &vert; in HTML

Maybe I'm wrong but wouldn't this break backward compatibility?

>   2. Overwrite "vert" entity with a new one that would do 1. So
>      basically, this is 1 but on your machine only.

The feature I'm requesting may be useful to others.

>   3. Use a new entity that becomes | when used in HTML export.

It would be harmless.

> WDYT?

The 3rd option looks the best one to me.

Regards.
-- 
Denis

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  To: Gmane Remailer
  Cc: public-emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ-confirm-1442212612.9320.da9aaf-wOFGN7rlS/M9smdsby/KFg




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> 	(8.3.1-103-g366dc4-elpa @ /home/bitouze/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150907/)]
> To: Nicolas Goaziou <mail-Gpy5sJQTEQHwkn9pgDnJRVAUjnlXr6A1@public.gmane.org>
> Cc: Denis Bitouzé
> 	<public-dbitouze-39ZsbGIQGT5GWvitb5QawA-wOFGN7rlS/M9smdsby/KFg@public.gmane.org>,
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> Le 13/09/15 à 22h47, Nicolas Goaziou <mail-Gpy5sJQTEQHwkn9pgDnJRVAUjnlXr6A1@public.gmane.org> a écrit :
>
>> Denis Bitouzé <dbitouze-39ZsbGIQGT5GWvitb5QawA-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
>>> 1. For _, \under{} is necessary since _ at the org mode level is
>>>    exported as \_.
>>> 2. For |, source | could be okay. But I'd like to use strings as above
>>>    in tables and, AFAIK, the only way to have pipe symbols in a table at
>>>    the org mode level is to code them \vert{}.  And that's the purpose
>>>    of my bug report, \vert{} is exported as &vert;, not as "real" |.
>>>
>>> In other words, I was happy with \under{} that exports real _ and,
>>> IMHO, \vert{} should do the same with |.
>>
>> Markdown export back-end use :html conventions to translate entities.
>> For some reason, HTML prefers &vert; over |, and so does markdown.
>
> &vert; and | are displayed the same way but can have different
> "meanings".
>
>> There are a few options available:
>>
>>   1. Prefer | over &vert; in HTML
>
> Maybe I'm wrong but wouldn't this break backward compatibility?
>
>>   2. Overwrite "vert" entity with a new one that would do 1. So
>>      basically, this is 1 but on your machine only.
>
> The feature I'm requesting may be useful to others.
>
>>   3. Use a new entity that becomes | when used in HTML export.
>
> It would be harmless.
>
>> WDYT?
>
> The 3rd option looks the best one to me.
>
> Regards.
-- 
Denis

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>> Subject: Re: Bug: \vert{} exported to markdown not as expected [8.3.1
>> 	(8.3.1-103-g366dc4-elpa @ /home/bitouze/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150907/)]
>> To: Nicolas Goaziou <mail-Gpy5sJQTEQHwkn9pgDnJRVAUjnlXr6A1@public.gmane.org>
>> Cc: Denis Bitouzé
>> 	<public-dbitouze-39ZsbGIQGT5GWvitb5QawA-wOFGN7rlS/M9smdsby/KFg@public.gmane.org>,
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>> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 08:35:04 +0200 (35 minutes, 18 seconds ago)
>>
>>
>> Le 13/09/15 à 22h47, Nicolas Goaziou <mail-Gpy5sJQTEQHwkn9pgDnJRVAUjnlXr6A1@public.gmane.org> a écrit :
>>
>>> Denis Bitouzé <dbitouze-39ZsbGIQGT5GWvitb5QawA-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> 1. For _, \under{} is necessary since _ at the org mode level is
>>>>    exported as \_.
>>>> 2. For |, source | could be okay. But I'd like to use strings as above
>>>>    in tables and, AFAIK, the only way to have pipe symbols in a table at
>>>>    the org mode level is to code them \vert{}.  And that's the purpose
>>>>    of my bug report, \vert{} is exported as &vert;, not as "real" |.
>>>>
>>>> In other words, I was happy with \under{} that exports real _ and,
>>>> IMHO, \vert{} should do the same with |.
>>>
>>> Markdown export back-end use :html conventions to translate entities.
>>> For some reason, HTML prefers &vert; over |, and so does markdown.
>>
>> &vert; and | are displayed the same way but can have different
>> "meanings".
>>
>>> There are a few options available:
>>>
>>>   1. Prefer | over &vert; in HTML
>>
>> Maybe I'm wrong but wouldn't this break backward compatibility?
>>
>>>   2. Overwrite "vert" entity with a new one that would do 1. So
>>>      basically, this is 1 but on your machine only.
>>
>> The feature I'm requesting may be useful to others.
>>
>>>   3. Use a new entity that becomes | when used in HTML export.
>>
>> It would be harmless.
>>
>>> WDYT?
>>
>> The 3rd option looks the best one to me.
>>
>> Regards.
-- 
Denis

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* Re: Bug: \vert{} exported to markdown not as expected [8.3.1 (8.3.1-103-g366dc4-elpa @ /home/bitouze/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150907/)]
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@ 2015-09-14  7:46             ` Denis Bitouzé
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From: Denis Bitouzé @ 2015-09-14  7:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Charles C. Berry
  Cc: Denis Bitouzé, Nicolas Goaziou,
	public-emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ-wOFGN7rlS/M9smdsby/KFg



Le 14/09/15 à 02h10, "Charles C. Berry" <ccberry-XkckGZ689+c@public.gmane.org> a écrit :

> On Sun, 13 Sep 2015, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Denis Bitouzé <dbitouze-39ZsbGIQGT5GWvitb5QawA-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
> [...]
>
>> Markdown export back-end use :html conventions to translate entities.
>> For some reason, HTML prefers &vert; over |, and so does markdown.
>>
>> There are a few options available:
>>
>>  1. Prefer | over &vert; in HTML
>>  2. Overwrite "vert" entity with a new one that would do 1. So
>>     basically, this is 1 but on your machine only.
>>  3. Use a new entity that becomes | when used in HTML export.
>>
>
> If this creates a backend derived from 'md (and does not modify ox-md.el),
> then fine. But, ...
>
> It seem like there are flavors of Markdown that use verticals for varying
> purposes.

Sigh... :)

> For example, rmarkdown
>
> 	http://rmarkdown.rstudio.com/authoring_pandoc_markdown.html
>
> uses them as `line block' markers and to construct `table.el' style tables.
>
> And I have seen verticals used to set off citations elsewhere.

Sigh... again :)

> And I am not even sure what Denis meant by using them to `interpret
> strings'.

As said, I'm only a very occasional markdown user, mainly on github and
SE (flavors).

In my current usecase (on a OSQA site), e.g. |REP_GAIN_BY_UPVOTED|
entered as markdown displays the value of REP_GAIN_BY_UPVOTED (some
internal site variable) when rendered as HTML.

Anyway, as pointed out in my answer to Nicolas, it may be useful to
other org mode users to be able to obtain "real" pipe symbol in markdown
export. Hence, a new entity that becomes | when used in md export could
be nice...

Best.
-- 
Denis

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