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From: Texas Cyberthal <texas.cyberthal@gmail.com>
To: Diego Zamboni <diego@zzamboni.org>, Eric <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk>
Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: customizing Org for legibility
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2020 01:47:07 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMUm493mq=Z1jc2MYunq9wSY8oYiu_udoA29go-6ci=OJvSXUQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGY83EeE=o1wTawCCkOY72WkrdcL79tT7hT782QU=wyhzFEwqA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the insight on why things are the way they are. Sounds like
the Spacemacs layer is the correct place to address legibility.
Knowing this will help me argue my case at Spacemacs.

I planned to mine the Zamboni post already. mixed-mode must be obscure
indeed if he didn't know about it until today either!

One thing I don't understand: It seems that GUI and terminal modes are
completely different. Rather than constrain GUI defaults to terminal
limitations, it makes sense to gracefully degrade them when a terminal
is detected. I assume that terminal users don't care about variable
pitch. They're likely doing sysadmin, with little or no prose
interaction.

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 9:20 PM Diego Zamboni <diego@zzamboni.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I think it's a noble effort to popularize org-mode and to make it easier to use. And I learned today about mixed-pitch :)
>
> However, a lot of visual configuration depends on fonts, colors, and other things which may vary a lot between users. While most of us by now probably use a graphical version of Emacs, any such default settings should be done with care for users who still use Emacs on a pure-text interface.
>
> Making some default prettification as part of Spacemacs's org-mode layer would be nice, since it includes a lot of customization and eye candy already.
>
> In case it's of use or for reference, I wrote a "Beautifying org-mode" blog post some time ago: https://zzamboni.org/post/beautifying-org-mode-in-emacs/
>
> (the corresponding section of my config file is here: https://github.com/zzamboni/dot-emacs/blob/master/init.org#beautifying-org-mode)
>
> All the best,
> --Diego
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 10:35 AM Texas Cyberthal <texas.cyberthal@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I aim to popularize Spacemacs as a personal info manager. Next task is
>> the Org configuration layer.
>>
>> As preparation, I wrote a post critiquing Org's out-of-the-box
>> legibility. I believe a default configuration should cater to
>> beginners, since they're least likely to know how to customize. On the
>> other hand, maybe a package should set defaults to the median user and
>> leave beginner intake to distributions.
>>
>> Along the way, I discovered mixed-pitch, which fixed most of my
>> complaint. It's quite obscure. I'd like to include it in Spacemacs'
>> Org layer.
>>
>> I'm sharing my thoughts to see whether I'm missing anything else.
>> https://cyberthal-ghost.nfshost.com/configuring-org-for-readable-prose-is-too-complicated/
>>

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-31 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-31  9:34 customizing Org for legibility Texas Cyberthal
2020-01-31 11:34 ` Fraga, Eric
2020-01-31 13:19 ` Diego Zamboni
2020-01-31 17:47   ` Texas Cyberthal [this message]
2020-02-01 16:17     ` Jack Kamm
2020-02-01 20:11       ` Bob Newell
2020-02-01 20:38         ` Diego Zamboni
2020-02-02  2:02       ` Tim Cross
2020-01-31 20:13 ` Samuel Wales
2020-02-01  1:23   ` Texas Cyberthal
2020-02-01  1:34     ` Samuel Wales
2020-02-01  2:47       ` Texas Cyberthal
2020-02-01 20:46         ` Diego Zamboni
2020-02-01 20:36   ` Diego Zamboni
2020-02-01  9:36 ` Bastien

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