mimetype for orgmode files

mimetype for orgmode files

[John Kitchin]

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Is there an official mimetype for orgmode files?

John

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Re: mimetype for orgmode files

[Grant Rettke]

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 9:52 AM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> Is there an official mimetype for orgmode files?

In `mailcap-mime-extensions' there is a value `(".org"   . "text/x-org")'.

Maybe that is for Org-Mode.

Re: mimetype for orgmode files

[Mario Martelli]

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>> Is there an official mimetype for orgmode files?
> 
> In `mailcap-mime-extensions' there is a value `(".org"   . "text/x-org")'.
> 
> Maybe that is for Org-Mode.

It is :)
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2011-01/msg00977.html <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2011-01/msg00977.html>

If official would mean registered with IANA, then it’s not.
https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml <https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml>

Link regards
Mario
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Re: mimetype for orgmode files

[William Denton]

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On 21 June 2017, Mario Martelli wrote:

> If official would mean registered with IANA, then it’s not.
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml <https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml>

On a related note, the =file= command [1] doesn't have the magic to identify Org 
files.

     $ file work-notes.org
     work-notes.org: UTF-8 Unicode text, with very long lines

Writing a pattern to make this work could be an interesting project if someone 
has some spare time some day ...

Bill

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_%28command%29
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Re: mimetype for orgmode files

[John Kitchin]

hm. I tried to use this to update the mime-types on Github
(https://github.com/jshttp/mime-db/pull/82#pullrequestreview-45516223),
but the email isn't primary enough for them.

It seems like if we had something on orgmode.org specifying a mimetype
it might work, although better would be to get it in IANA.

Could we come to an agreement on "text/x-org" or "text/x-orgmode" and
document that on orgmode.org?

Mario Martelli writes:

>  Is there an official mimetype for orgmode files?
>
>  In `mailcap-mime-extensions' there is a value `(".org" . "text/x-org")'.
>
>  Maybe that is for Org-Mode.
>
> It is :)
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2011-01/msg00977.html
>
> If official would mean registered with IANA, then it’s not.
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml
>
> Link regards
> Mario
> —


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Re: mimetype for orgmode files

[Gergely Polonkai]

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I'd say text/orgmode (text/x-orgmode if getting into IANA is not an
option). text/org feels too generic, as not everyone is familiar with Org.

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017, 21:36 John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

> hm. I tried to use this to update the mime-types on Github
> (https://github.com/jshttp/mime-db/pull/82#pullrequestreview-45516223),
> but the email isn't primary enough for them.
>
> It seems like if we had something on orgmode.org specifying a mimetype
> it might work, although better would be to get it in IANA.
>
> Could we come to an agreement on "text/x-org" or "text/x-orgmode" and
> document that on orgmode.org?
>
> Mario Martelli writes:
>
> >  Is there an official mimetype for orgmode files?
> >
> >  In `mailcap-mime-extensions' there is a value `(".org" . "text/x-org")'.
> >
> >  Maybe that is for Org-Mode.
> >
> > It is :)
> > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2011-01/msg00977.html
> >
> > If official would mean registered with IANA, then it’s not.
> > https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml
> >
> > Link regards
> > Mario
> > —
>
>
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> Carnegie Mellon University
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> 412-268-7803
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> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>
>

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Re: mimetype for orgmode files

[Bastien]

Hi John,

John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

> Could we come to an agreement on "text/x-org" or "text/x-orgmode" and
> document that on orgmode.org?

I'd vote for "text/x-org".  The "mode" part sounds emacsy,
which is precisely not the point for a mimetype.

I can add this sentence to orgmode.org's homepage: 

  The /de facto/ mimetype for org attachments is "text/x-org".

Or any better suggestion?

-- 
 Bastien

Re: mimetype for orgmode files

[John Kitchin]

That would work fine for me.

Let me know the url to that note when you update it so I can use it as a
primary source for the github registration.

Bastien writes:

> Hi John,
>
> John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>> Could we come to an agreement on "text/x-org" or "text/x-orgmode" and
>> document that on orgmode.org?
>
> I'd vote for "text/x-org".  The "mode" part sounds emacsy,
> which is precisely not the point for a mimetype.
>
> I can add this sentence to orgmode.org's homepage: 
>
>   The /de facto/ mimetype for org attachments is "text/x-org".
>
> Or any better suggestion?


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Re: mimetype for orgmode files

[Bastien Guerry]

Hi John,

John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

> Let me know the url to that note when you update it so I can use it as a
> primary source for the github registration.

It is now on orgmode.org homepage: http://orgmode.org/index.html

Best,

-- 
 Bastien

Re: mimetype for orgmode files

[John Kitchin]

Thanks for letting me know. I let the people at
https://github.com/jshttp/mime-db/pull/82 know that. It looks like org
might be registered as a mimetype now.

Bastien Guerry writes:

> Hi John,
>
> John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>> Let me know the url to that note when you update it so I can use it as a
>> primary source for the github registration.
>
> It is now on orgmode.org homepage: http://orgmode.org/index.html
>
> Best,


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Re: mimetype for orgmode files

[Yasushi SHOJI]

Hi,

There is RFC 6648, which "deprecating the "X-" Prefix".

So, it might be better to use "text/org".

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6648
-- 
               yashi

Re: mimetype for orgmode files

[Bastien Guerry]

Hi Yasushi,

Yasushi SHOJI <yasushi.shoji@gmail.com> writes:

> There is RFC 6648, which "deprecating the "X-" Prefix".

Thanks for letting us know!

> So, it might be better to use "text/org".

I’m fine with "text/org".  John?  Others?

I’ll make the change later this week if nobody disagrees.

Thanks,

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 Bastien

Re: mimetype for orgmode files

[Carsten Dominik]

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On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 8:30 AM, Bastien Guerry <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:

> Hi Yasushi,
>
> Yasushi SHOJI <yasushi.shoji@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > There is RFC 6648, which "deprecating the "X-" Prefix".
>
> Thanks for letting us know!
>
> > So, it might be better to use "text/org".
>
> I’m fine with "text/org".  John?  Others?
>

text/org seems to be perfect.

Carsten


>
> I’ll make the change later this week if nobody disagrees.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
>  Bastien
>
>

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Re: mimetype for orgmode files

[John Kitchin]

I guess I have no objections. Let me know when it is done, and I will
see about updating mimedb.

Carsten Dominik writes:

> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 8:30 AM, Bastien Guerry <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Yasushi,
>>
>> Yasushi SHOJI <yasushi.shoji@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > There is RFC 6648, which "deprecating the "X-" Prefix".
>>
>> Thanks for letting us know!
>>
>> > So, it might be better to use "text/org".
>>
>> I’m fine with "text/org".  John?  Others?
>>
>
> text/org seems to be perfect.
>
> Carsten
>
>
>>
>> I’ll make the change later this week if nobody disagrees.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>>  Bastien
>>
>>


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Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu

Re: mimetype for orgmode files

[Bastien Guerry]

John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

> I guess I have no objections. Let me know when it is done, and I will
> see about updating mimedb.

Done!

-- 
 Bastien

Re: mimetype for orgmode files

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

`xdg-mime query filetype "[Path to some .org file.]"` shows
"text/plain", but Gnus in GNU Emacs shows it as "text/x-org".

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