* mimetype for orgmode files
@ 2017-06-21 14:52 John Kitchin
2017-06-21 16:36 ` Grant Rettke
2017-06-22 1:03 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
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From: John Kitchin @ 2017-06-21 14:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
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Is there an official mimetype for orgmode files?
John
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* Re: mimetype for orgmode files
2017-06-21 14:52 mimetype for orgmode files John Kitchin
@ 2017-06-21 16:36 ` Grant Rettke
2017-06-21 16:56 ` Mario Martelli
2017-06-22 1:03 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
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From: Grant Rettke @ 2017-06-21 16:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: John Kitchin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 9:52 AM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> Is there an official mimetype for orgmode files?
In `mailcap-mime-extensions' there is a value `(".org" . "text/x-org")'.
Maybe that is for Org-Mode.
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2017-06-21 16:36 ` Grant Rettke
@ 2017-06-21 16:56 ` Mario Martelli
2017-06-21 17:17 ` William Denton
2017-06-21 19:35 ` John Kitchin
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From: Mario Martelli @ 2017-06-21 16:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Grant Rettke; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, John Kitchin
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>> Is there an official mimetype for orgmode files?
>
> In `mailcap-mime-extensions' there is a value `(".org" . "text/x-org")'.
>
> Maybe that is for Org-Mode.
It is :)
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2011-01/msg00977.html <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2011-01/msg00977.html>
If official would mean registered with IANA, then it’s not.
https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml <https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml>
Link regards
Mario
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2017-06-21 16:56 ` Mario Martelli
@ 2017-06-21 17:17 ` William Denton
2017-06-21 19:35 ` John Kitchin
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From: William Denton @ 2017-06-21 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
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On 21 June 2017, Mario Martelli wrote:
> If official would mean registered with IANA, then it’s not.
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml <https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml>
On a related note, the =file= command [1] doesn't have the magic to identify Org
files.
$ file work-notes.org
work-notes.org: UTF-8 Unicode text, with very long lines
Writing a pattern to make this work could be an interesting project if someone
has some spare time some day ...
Bill
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_%28command%29
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2017-06-21 16:56 ` Mario Martelli
2017-06-21 17:17 ` William Denton
@ 2017-06-21 19:35 ` John Kitchin
2017-06-21 20:16 ` Gergely Polonkai
2017-07-03 5:24 ` Bastien
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From: John Kitchin @ 2017-06-21 19:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mario Martelli; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Grant Rettke
hm. I tried to use this to update the mime-types on Github
(https://github.com/jshttp/mime-db/pull/82#pullrequestreview-45516223),
but the email isn't primary enough for them.
It seems like if we had something on orgmode.org specifying a mimetype
it might work, although better would be to get it in IANA.
Could we come to an agreement on "text/x-org" or "text/x-orgmode" and
document that on orgmode.org?
Mario Martelli writes:
> Is there an official mimetype for orgmode files?
>
> In `mailcap-mime-extensions' there is a value `(".org" . "text/x-org")'.
>
> Maybe that is for Org-Mode.
>
> It is :)
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2011-01/msg00977.html
>
> If official would mean registered with IANA, then it’s not.
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml
>
> Link regards
> Mario
> —
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2017-06-21 19:35 ` John Kitchin
@ 2017-06-21 20:16 ` Gergely Polonkai
2017-07-03 5:24 ` Bastien
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From: Gergely Polonkai @ 2017-06-21 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: John Kitchin, Mario Martelli; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Grant Rettke
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I'd say text/orgmode (text/x-orgmode if getting into IANA is not an
option). text/org feels too generic, as not everyone is familiar with Org.
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017, 21:36 John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> hm. I tried to use this to update the mime-types on Github
> (https://github.com/jshttp/mime-db/pull/82#pullrequestreview-45516223),
> but the email isn't primary enough for them.
>
> It seems like if we had something on orgmode.org specifying a mimetype
> it might work, although better would be to get it in IANA.
>
> Could we come to an agreement on "text/x-org" or "text/x-orgmode" and
> document that on orgmode.org?
>
> Mario Martelli writes:
>
> > Is there an official mimetype for orgmode files?
> >
> > In `mailcap-mime-extensions' there is a value `(".org" . "text/x-org")'.
> >
> > Maybe that is for Org-Mode.
> >
> > It is :)
> > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2011-01/msg00977.html
> >
> > If official would mean registered with IANA, then it’s not.
> > https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml
> >
> > Link regards
> > Mario
> > —
>
>
> --
> Professor John Kitchin
> Doherty Hall A207F
> Department of Chemical Engineering
> Carnegie Mellon University
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> 412-268-7803
> @johnkitchin
> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
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2017-06-21 19:35 ` John Kitchin
2017-06-21 20:16 ` Gergely Polonkai
@ 2017-07-03 5:24 ` Bastien
2017-07-07 12:45 ` John Kitchin
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From: Bastien @ 2017-07-03 5:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: John Kitchin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Mario Martelli, Grant Rettke
Hi John,
John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> Could we come to an agreement on "text/x-org" or "text/x-orgmode" and
> document that on orgmode.org?
I'd vote for "text/x-org". The "mode" part sounds emacsy,
which is precisely not the point for a mimetype.
I can add this sentence to orgmode.org's homepage:
The /de facto/ mimetype for org attachments is "text/x-org".
Or any better suggestion?
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* Re: mimetype for orgmode files
2017-07-03 5:24 ` Bastien
@ 2017-07-07 12:45 ` John Kitchin
2017-08-30 15:06 ` Bastien Guerry
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From: John Kitchin @ 2017-07-07 12:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Mario Martelli, Grant Rettke
That would work fine for me.
Let me know the url to that note when you update it so I can use it as a
primary source for the github registration.
Bastien writes:
> Hi John,
>
> John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>> Could we come to an agreement on "text/x-org" or "text/x-orgmode" and
>> document that on orgmode.org?
>
> I'd vote for "text/x-org". The "mode" part sounds emacsy,
> which is precisely not the point for a mimetype.
>
> I can add this sentence to orgmode.org's homepage:
>
> The /de facto/ mimetype for org attachments is "text/x-org".
>
> Or any better suggestion?
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Professor John Kitchin
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
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* Re: mimetype for orgmode files
2017-07-07 12:45 ` John Kitchin
@ 2017-08-30 15:06 ` Bastien Guerry
2017-09-05 2:44 ` John Kitchin
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From: Bastien Guerry @ 2017-08-30 15:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: John Kitchin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Mario Martelli, Grant Rettke
Hi John,
John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> Let me know the url to that note when you update it so I can use it as a
> primary source for the github registration.
It is now on orgmode.org homepage: http://orgmode.org/index.html
Best,
--
Bastien
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* Re: mimetype for orgmode files
2017-08-30 15:06 ` Bastien Guerry
@ 2017-09-05 2:44 ` John Kitchin
2017-09-05 2:52 ` Yasushi SHOJI
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From: John Kitchin @ 2017-09-05 2:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien Guerry; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Mario Martelli, Grant Rettke
Thanks for letting me know. I let the people at
https://github.com/jshttp/mime-db/pull/82 know that. It looks like org
might be registered as a mimetype now.
Bastien Guerry writes:
> Hi John,
>
> John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>> Let me know the url to that note when you update it so I can use it as a
>> primary source for the github registration.
>
> It is now on orgmode.org homepage: http://orgmode.org/index.html
>
> Best,
--
Professor John Kitchin
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
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* Re: mimetype for orgmode files
2017-09-05 2:44 ` John Kitchin
@ 2017-09-05 2:52 ` Yasushi SHOJI
2017-09-05 6:30 ` Bastien Guerry
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From: Yasushi SHOJI @ 2017-09-05 2:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: John Kitchin
Cc: Bastien Guerry, Mario Martelli, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org,
Grant Rettke
Hi,
There is RFC 6648, which "deprecating the "X-" Prefix".
So, it might be better to use "text/org".
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6648
--
yashi
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2017-09-05 2:52 ` Yasushi SHOJI
@ 2017-09-05 6:30 ` Bastien Guerry
2017-09-05 8:50 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Bastien Guerry @ 2017-09-05 6:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Yasushi SHOJI
Cc: Mario Martelli, Grant Rettke, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, John Kitchin
Hi Yasushi,
Yasushi SHOJI <yasushi.shoji@gmail.com> writes:
> There is RFC 6648, which "deprecating the "X-" Prefix".
Thanks for letting us know!
> So, it might be better to use "text/org".
I’m fine with "text/org". John? Others?
I’ll make the change later this week if nobody disagrees.
Thanks,
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Bastien
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* Re: mimetype for orgmode files
2017-09-05 6:30 ` Bastien Guerry
@ 2017-09-05 8:50 ` Carsten Dominik
2017-09-05 13:28 ` John Kitchin
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2017-09-05 8:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien Guerry
Cc: Yasushi SHOJI, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Mario Martelli,
John Kitchin, Grant Rettke
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On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 8:30 AM, Bastien Guerry <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:
> Hi Yasushi,
>
> Yasushi SHOJI <yasushi.shoji@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > There is RFC 6648, which "deprecating the "X-" Prefix".
>
> Thanks for letting us know!
>
> > So, it might be better to use "text/org".
>
> I’m fine with "text/org". John? Others?
>
text/org seems to be perfect.
Carsten
>
> I’ll make the change later this week if nobody disagrees.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Bastien
>
>
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* Re: mimetype for orgmode files
2017-09-05 8:50 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2017-09-05 13:28 ` John Kitchin
2017-09-05 13:35 ` Bastien Guerry
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From: John Kitchin @ 2017-09-05 13:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik
Cc: Yasushi SHOJI, Bastien Guerry, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org,
Grant Rettke, Mario Martelli
I guess I have no objections. Let me know when it is done, and I will
see about updating mimedb.
Carsten Dominik writes:
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 8:30 AM, Bastien Guerry <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Yasushi,
>>
>> Yasushi SHOJI <yasushi.shoji@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > There is RFC 6648, which "deprecating the "X-" Prefix".
>>
>> Thanks for letting us know!
>>
>> > So, it might be better to use "text/org".
>>
>> I’m fine with "text/org". John? Others?
>>
>
> text/org seems to be perfect.
>
> Carsten
>
>
>>
>> I’ll make the change later this week if nobody disagrees.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Bastien
>>
>>
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Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
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* Re: mimetype for orgmode files
2017-06-21 14:52 mimetype for orgmode files John Kitchin
2017-06-21 16:36 ` Grant Rettke
@ 2017-06-22 1:03 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
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From: Adonay Felipe Nogueira @ 2017-06-22 1:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
`xdg-mime query filetype "[Path to some .org file.]"` shows
"text/plain", but Gnus in GNU Emacs shows it as "text/x-org".
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