[org-cite] CSL processor, APA Style, and no-date citations

[org-cite] CSL processor, APA Style, and no-date citations

[Rudolf Adamkovič]

I would like to start using the new citations with the APA Style. To cite in APA, I use a CSL file. Everything works well with Pandoc, but with Org, all citations with no "date" BibTeX field render as "$AUTHOR" instead of "$AUTHOR (n.d.)" both in-text and in the reference list. This renders Org unusable with APA Style. What can I do?

Emacs configuration:

(add-to-list 'package-selected-packages 'citeproc)
(with-eval-after-load 'oc
  (require 'ox)
  (require 'oc-csl))

Document configuration:

#+CITE_EXPORT: csl apa.csl

CSL file:

https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/blob/master/apa.csl

Rudy
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Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com>
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84103 Bratislava
Slovakia

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Re: [org-cite] CSL processor, APA Style, and no-date citations

[Bruce D'Arcus]

On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 9:59 AM Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> wrote:

> I would like to start using the new citations with the APA Style. To cite in APA, I use a CSL file. Everything works well with Pandoc, but with Org, all citations with no "date" BibTeX field render as "$AUTHOR" instead of "$AUTHOR (n.d.)" both in-text and in the reference list. This renders Org unusable with APA Style. What can I do?

I'm guessing that's a little bug in citeproc-el.

If Andras doesn't reply here, you might add this to the issue tracker there?

Bruce

Re: [org-cite] CSL processor, APA Style, and no-date citations

[András Simonyi]

Dear All,

On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 16:07, Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 9:59 AM Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> wrote:
>
> > I would like to start using the new citations with the APA Style. To cite in APA, I use a CSL file. Everything works well with Pandoc, but with Org, all citations with no "date" BibTeX field render as "$AUTHOR" instead of "$AUTHOR (n.d.)" both in-text and in the reference list. This renders Org unusable with APA Style. What can I do?
>
> I'm guessing that's a little bug in citeproc-el.
>
> If Andras doesn't reply here, you might add this to the issue tracker there?
>
> Bruce

this looks like a citeproc-el bug indeed -- could you post a bug
report on the GitHub project page?

thanks in advance,
András

Re: [org-cite] CSL processor, APA Style, and no-date citations

[Rudolf Adamkovič]

András Simonyi <andras.simonyi@gmail.com> writes:

> this looks like a citeproc-el bug indeed -- could you post a bug
> report on the GitHub project page?

Done. Opened 3 GitHub issues:

- Fix "literal" authors (#72)
- Fix title capitalization (#71)
- Support no-date citations (#70)

In the meantime, can I use the BibLaTeX backend (or something else) for *HTML* export?

Rudy
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Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com>
Studenohorská 25
84103 Bratislava
Slovakia

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Re: [org-cite] CSL processor, APA Style, and no-date citations

[Bruce D'Arcus]

On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 12:47 PM Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> wrote:

> In the meantime, can I use the BibLaTeX backend (or something else) for *HTML* export?

I don't believe so, unless there's some good latex -> html solution
I'm not aware of.

Bruce

Re: [org-cite] CSL processor, APA Style, and no-date citations

[John Kitchin]

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in org-ref there is a natbib-bbl preprocessor for this. It works with
bibtex (not biblatex) though.

You can see how it works here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq3LspE-rAs&list=PL0sMmOaE_gs3E0OjExoI7vlCAVygj6S4I&index=8

You would have to use another preprocessor to convert org-cites to org-ref
links, or adapt the code in
https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref/blob/master/org-ref-natbib-bbl-citeproc.el
to work off of the org-cites.

John

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On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 12:53 PM Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 12:47 PM Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> wrote:
>
> > In the meantime, can I use the BibLaTeX backend (or something else) for
> *HTML* export?
>
> I don't believe so, unless there's some good latex -> html solution
> I'm not aware of.
>
> Bruce
>
>

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Re: [org-cite] CSL processor, APA Style, and no-date citations

[Joost Kremers]

On Wed, Nov 17 2021, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
> I don't believe so, unless there's some good latex -> html solution
> I'm not aware of.

There's (at least) tex4ht and lwarp, but to what extent they support biblatex, I
don't know.

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