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* [org-cite] CSL processor, APA Style, and no-date citations
@ 2021-11-17 14:50 Rudolf Adamkovič
  2021-11-17 15:06 ` Bruce D'Arcus
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Rudolf Adamkovič @ 2021-11-17 14:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

I would like to start using the new citations with the APA Style. To cite in APA, I use a CSL file. Everything works well with Pandoc, but with Org, all citations with no "date" BibTeX field render as "$AUTHOR" instead of "$AUTHOR (n.d.)" both in-text and in the reference list. This renders Org unusable with APA Style. What can I do?

Emacs configuration:

(add-to-list 'package-selected-packages 'citeproc)
(with-eval-after-load 'oc
  (require 'ox)
  (require 'oc-csl))

Document configuration:

#+CITE_EXPORT: csl apa.csl

CSL file:

https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/blob/master/apa.csl

Rudy
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Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com>
Studenohorská 25
84103 Bratislava
Slovakia

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* Re: [org-cite] CSL processor, APA Style, and no-date citations
  2021-11-17 14:50 [org-cite] CSL processor, APA Style, and no-date citations Rudolf Adamkovič
@ 2021-11-17 15:06 ` Bruce D'Arcus
  2021-11-17 16:25   ` András Simonyi
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Bruce D'Arcus @ 2021-11-17 15:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rudolf Adamkovič; +Cc: org-mode-email

On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 9:59 AM Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> wrote:

> I would like to start using the new citations with the APA Style. To cite in APA, I use a CSL file. Everything works well with Pandoc, but with Org, all citations with no "date" BibTeX field render as "$AUTHOR" instead of "$AUTHOR (n.d.)" both in-text and in the reference list. This renders Org unusable with APA Style. What can I do?

I'm guessing that's a little bug in citeproc-el.

If Andras doesn't reply here, you might add this to the issue tracker there?

Bruce


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* Re: [org-cite] CSL processor, APA Style, and no-date citations
  2021-11-17 15:06 ` Bruce D'Arcus
@ 2021-11-17 16:25   ` András Simonyi
  2021-11-17 17:47     ` Rudolf Adamkovič
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: András Simonyi @ 2021-11-17 16:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bruce D'Arcus; +Cc: org-mode-email, Rudolf Adamkovič

Dear All,

On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 16:07, Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 9:59 AM Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> wrote:
>
> > I would like to start using the new citations with the APA Style. To cite in APA, I use a CSL file. Everything works well with Pandoc, but with Org, all citations with no "date" BibTeX field render as "$AUTHOR" instead of "$AUTHOR (n.d.)" both in-text and in the reference list. This renders Org unusable with APA Style. What can I do?
>
> I'm guessing that's a little bug in citeproc-el.
>
> If Andras doesn't reply here, you might add this to the issue tracker there?
>
> Bruce

this looks like a citeproc-el bug indeed -- could you post a bug
report on the GitHub project page?

thanks in advance,
András


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* Re: [org-cite] CSL processor, APA Style, and no-date citations
  2021-11-17 16:25   ` András Simonyi
@ 2021-11-17 17:47     ` Rudolf Adamkovič
  2021-11-17 17:51       ` Bruce D'Arcus
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Rudolf Adamkovič @ 2021-11-17 17:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: András Simonyi, Bruce D'Arcus; +Cc: org-mode-email

András Simonyi <andras.simonyi@gmail.com> writes:

> this looks like a citeproc-el bug indeed -- could you post a bug
> report on the GitHub project page?

Done. Opened 3 GitHub issues:

- Fix "literal" authors (#72)
- Fix title capitalization (#71)
- Support no-date citations (#70)

In the meantime, can I use the BibLaTeX backend (or something else) for *HTML* export?

Rudy
-- 
"Logic is a science of the necessary laws of thought, without which no employment of the understanding and the reason takes place." -- Immanuel Kant, 1785

Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com>
Studenohorská 25
84103 Bratislava
Slovakia

[he/him]


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* Re: [org-cite] CSL processor, APA Style, and no-date citations
  2021-11-17 17:47     ` Rudolf Adamkovič
@ 2021-11-17 17:51       ` Bruce D'Arcus
  2021-11-17 18:05         ` John Kitchin
  2021-11-17 21:57         ` Joost Kremers
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Bruce D'Arcus @ 2021-11-17 17:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rudolf Adamkovič; +Cc: org-mode-email, András Simonyi

On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 12:47 PM Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> wrote:

> In the meantime, can I use the BibLaTeX backend (or something else) for *HTML* export?

I don't believe so, unless there's some good latex -> html solution
I'm not aware of.

Bruce


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* Re: [org-cite] CSL processor, APA Style, and no-date citations
  2021-11-17 17:51       ` Bruce D'Arcus
@ 2021-11-17 18:05         ` John Kitchin
  2021-11-17 21:57         ` Joost Kremers
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: John Kitchin @ 2021-11-17 18:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bruce D'Arcus
  Cc: org-mode-email, Rudolf Adamkovič, András Simonyi

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in org-ref there is a natbib-bbl preprocessor for this. It works with
bibtex (not biblatex) though.

You can see how it works here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq3LspE-rAs&list=PL0sMmOaE_gs3E0OjExoI7vlCAVygj6S4I&index=8

You would have to use another preprocessor to convert org-cites to org-ref
links, or adapt the code in
https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref/blob/master/org-ref-natbib-bbl-citeproc.el
to work off of the org-cites.

John

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On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 12:53 PM Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 12:47 PM Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> wrote:
>
> > In the meantime, can I use the BibLaTeX backend (or something else) for
> *HTML* export?
>
> I don't believe so, unless there's some good latex -> html solution
> I'm not aware of.
>
> Bruce
>
>

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* Re: [org-cite] CSL processor, APA Style, and no-date citations
  2021-11-17 17:51       ` Bruce D'Arcus
  2021-11-17 18:05         ` John Kitchin
@ 2021-11-17 21:57         ` Joost Kremers
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Joost Kremers @ 2021-11-17 21:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bruce D'Arcus; +Cc: emacs-orgmode


On Wed, Nov 17 2021, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
> I don't believe so, unless there's some good latex -> html solution
> I'm not aware of.

There's (at least) tex4ht and lwarp, but to what extent they support biblatex, I
don't know.

-- 
Joost Kremers
Life has its moments


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