How to handle an inline multiline noweb reference

How to handle an inline multiline noweb reference

[Marcin Borkowski]

Hi folks,

I have a multiline source block (a complex sql query).  I'd like it to
be inserted into another (shell) source block, so that I can run psql on
a remote server (via ssh) and execute this query (I cannot access the
database from my machine).

I came up with this:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
#+name: sql_join
#+begin_src sql
  SELECT ... -- complicated, multiline query;
#+end_src

#+name: sql_oneline
#+begin_src elisp :noweb yes
  (replace-regexp-in-string "\n" " " "
<<sql_join>>" t t)
#+end_src

#+begin_src sh :noweb yes :results output verbatim
ssh user@host "psql connector -c '<<sql_oneline()>>'"
#+end_src
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

but it's fairly complicated.  Any better ideas?

TIA,

--
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl

Re: How to handle an inline multiline noweb reference

[Grant Rettke]

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 3:57 AM Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> wrote:
> but it's fairly complicated.  Any better ideas?

What is the part that you think is too complicated?

Re: How to handle an inline multiline noweb reference

[Samuel Wales]

this might be the most ridiculous idea you have ever heard, but does
babel have a concept similar to stdio pipes?  i've often wanted to
just pipe stuff.  dunno if this would help marcin.

the only inter-block communication i am aware of are variables and
noweb inclusion.

[and, unless i am mistaken, one or the other inclusion mechanism
always outputs intermediate lines of text as messages in the
minibuffer, dunno if that can be turned off.]

Re: How to handle an inline multiline noweb reference

[Eric S Fraga]

On Tuesday, 27 Nov 2018 at 19:33, Samuel Wales wrote:
> this might be the most ridiculous idea you have ever heard, but does
> babel have a concept similar to stdio pipes?  i've often wanted to
> just pipe stuff.  dunno if this would help marcin.
>
> the only inter-block communication i am aware of are variables and
> noweb inclusion.

Check out the :post option for src blocks.  May be exactly what you
want.
-- 
Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50, Org release_9.1.14-1035-gfeb442

Re: How to handle an inline multiline noweb reference

[Grant Rettke]

On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 1:08 AM Eric S Fraga <esflists@gmail.com> wrote:
> Check out the :post option for src blocks.  May be exactly what you
> want.

Thanks for sharing that!

Re: How to handle an inline multiline noweb reference

[Samuel Wales]

fyi only: i don't understand the examples or the relevance to pipes.

On 11/28/18, Eric S Fraga <esflists@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 27 Nov 2018 at 19:33, Samuel Wales wrote:
>> this might be the most ridiculous idea you have ever heard, but does
>> babel have a concept similar to stdio pipes?  i've often wanted to
>> just pipe stuff.  dunno if this would help marcin.
>>
>> the only inter-block communication i am aware of are variables and
>> noweb inclusion.
>
> Check out the :post option for src blocks.  May be exactly what you
> want.
> --
> Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50, Org release_9.1.14-1035-gfeb442
>


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Re: How to handle an inline multiline noweb reference

[Eric S Fraga]

On Wednesday, 28 Nov 2018 at 15:35, Samuel Wales wrote:
> fyi only: i don't understand the examples or the relevance to pipes.

The output (or more generally the results) of one src block is passed directly as input to another using the :post argument.  

See, for instance:

#+begin_src org
  ,#+name: doubleit
  ,#+begin_src octave :results output :var x=[0.1]
  disp(2*x)
  ,#+end_src

  ,#+name: test
  ,#+begin_src octave :post doubleit(x=*this*)
    2*3.14
  ,#+end_src

  ,#+results: test
  :  12.560
#+end_src

HTH,
eric

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Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50, Org release_9.1.14-1035-gfeb442

Re: How to handle an inline multiline noweb reference

[Samuel Wales]

On 11/28/18, Eric S Fraga <esflists@gmail.com> wrote:
> The output (or more generally the results) of one src block is passed
> directly as input to another using the :post argument.

that helps.

i'm not familiar with many languages.  shell and lisp work best for
me, but in this case saying that clarifies.

not sure where *this* comes in.  perhaps it is a variable in the
second block being sent to the first block?

> #+begin_src org
>   ,#+name: doubleit
>   ,#+begin_src octave :results output :var x=[0.1]
>   disp(2*x)
>   ,#+end_src
>
>   ,#+name: test
>   ,#+begin_src octave :post doubleit(x=*this*)
>     2*3.14
>   ,#+end_src
>
>   ,#+results: test
>   :  12.560
> #+end_src
>
> HTH,
> eric
>
> --
> Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50, Org release_9.1.14-1035-gfeb442
>


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Re: How to handle an inline multiline noweb reference

[Samuel Wales]

it still feels like variables to me.  if you did a shell example with
1000 lines, would those be piped in?  or would the variable contain
1000 lines?  i don't understandt he difference between post and just a
variable.

onte: i am only telling you this to improve documentation if you feel
like it.  i don't need this now.  just want to let you know that it is
not speakign to me.

Re: How to handle an inline multiline noweb reference

[Eric S Fraga]

On Thursday, 29 Nov 2018 at 15:16, Samuel Wales wrote:
> On 11/28/18, Eric S Fraga <esflists@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The output (or more generally the results) of one src block is passed
>> directly as input to another using the :post argument.
>
> that helps.
>
> i'm not familiar with many languages.  shell and lisp work best for
> me, but in this case saying that clarifies.
>
> not sure where *this* comes in.  perhaps it is a variable in the
> second block being sent to the first block?

*this* is replaced by the results of the block that has the :post argument so, in this example, the results (i.e. the output) of the test block are placed in the x variable for the doubleit block.

-- 
Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50, Org release_9.1.14-1035-gfeb442

Re: How to handle an inline multiline noweb reference

[Eric S Fraga]

On Thursday, 29 Nov 2018 at 15:18, Samuel Wales wrote:
> it still feels like variables to me.  

I agree.  It's not the *same* as a pipe but does meet some of the requirements for some use cases...  I think expecting behaviour like pipes is possibly too much given the single threaded nature of much of emacs?
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Re: How to handle an inline multiline noweb reference

[Marcin Borkowski]

On 2018-11-28, at 08:08, Eric S Fraga <esflists@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, 27 Nov 2018 at 19:33, Samuel Wales wrote:
>> this might be the most ridiculous idea you have ever heard, but does
>> babel have a concept similar to stdio pipes?  i've often wanted to
>> just pipe stuff.  dunno if this would help marcin.
>>
>> the only inter-block communication i am aware of are variables and
>> noweb inclusion.
>
> Check out the :post option for src blocks.  May be exactly what you
> want.

Thanks, this looks *very* promising!

Best,

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl

Re: How to handle an inline multiline noweb reference

[Marcin Borkowski]

On 2018-11-28, at 03:08, Grant Rettke <gcr@wisdomandwonder.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 3:57 AM Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> wrote:
>> but it's fairly complicated.  Any better ideas?
>
> What is the part that you think is too complicated?

I hoped that I could somehow skip the "manually replace newlines with
spaces" step.

Best,

--
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl

Re: How to handle an inline multiline noweb reference

[Grant Rettke]

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 11:25 AM Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> wrote:
> On 2018-11-28, at 03:08, Grant Rettke <gcr@wisdomandwonder.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 3:57 AM Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> wrote:
> >> but it's fairly complicated.  Any better ideas?
> >
> > What is the part that you think is too complicated?
>
> I hoped that I could somehow skip the "manually replace newlines with
> spaces" step.

Thank you for explaining!