From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Karl Voit <news2042@Karl-Voit.at>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org-mode syntax as a tool-independent MIME type (was: Shower thought: submit an IETF RFC to register Org as a MIME type)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 11:41:30 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fsfh4d5h.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2022-10-17T22-36-38@devnull.Karl-Voit.at>
Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes:
> For reasons explained in my Orgdown-related articles[1] I would
> propose to use this chance to introduce a different term for the
> Org-mode lightweight markup language in contrast to the Org-mode
> Elisp implementation in order to push the syntax in a tool-agnostic
> way. We should not think only of GNU Emacs because there is a
> rising number of tools that do support text files in Org-mode
> syntax[2] which is also a huge advantage for users of GNU Emacs:
> collaboration, public awareness of the syntax, more tool support,
> ...
I do not like the idea of using Orgdown term for MIME type.
MIME type already imply syntax, not the implementation. I think that it
will be better to keep "Org" term for MIME type and avoid too much
confusion.
The Emacs-independent description of the syntax is being worked on in
https://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-syntax.html.
> I proposed the term Orgdown for the Org-mode syntax and also
> proposed various levels in order to provide sub-sets of Org-mode
> syntax[3] that are realistic to implement with finite effort. Using
> those OD-levels to come up with a formal definition (EBNF?) might
> play perfectly well with different parameters of the MIME type[4].
I do understand and accept your idea about simplified syntax
description. As we are going to need the syntax white-paper for MIME
type registration anyway, we may as well define your syntax levels in
that document. I envision a section in
https://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-syntax.html that will define subsets
syntax elements can be supported.
The first step now if finalizing
https://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-syntax.html. It would help if other Org
users read through the document and try to spot what is missing,
unclear, or inaccurate.
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-21 11:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-04 14:44 Shower thought: submit an IETF RFC to register Org as a MIME type TEC
2020-09-04 16:14 ` Gustav Wikström
2020-09-05 5:30 ` stardiviner
2020-09-05 5:50 ` Bastien
2020-09-05 5:53 ` TEC
2020-09-17 7:09 ` TEC
2020-09-17 7:18 ` hj-orgmode-1
2020-09-23 7:31 ` Bastien
2020-10-01 3:40 ` TEC
2020-10-01 5:21 ` Bastien
2020-10-01 5:48 ` TEC
2020-10-01 6:46 ` Bastien
2020-10-01 15:39 ` Wes Hardaker
2020-10-01 15:45 ` TEC
2020-10-06 18:03 ` Wes Hardaker
2020-10-06 19:03 ` TEC
2020-10-06 20:39 ` Palak Mathur
2020-10-24 12:09 ` Bastien
2020-10-24 12:28 ` Palak Mathur
2020-10-24 12:50 ` Bastien
2020-10-24 13:09 ` Leo Vivier
2020-10-24 13:38 ` Bastien
2020-10-24 13:49 ` Leo Vivier
2020-10-24 15:12 ` Bastien
2020-10-24 15:00 ` Palak Mathur
2020-10-24 15:40 ` Bastien
2020-10-24 15:57 ` Palak Mathur
2020-10-14 9:52 ` Lennart C. Karssen
2020-10-14 14:22 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-10-17 20:46 ` Org-mode syntax as a tool-independent MIME type (was: Shower thought: submit an IETF RFC to register Org as a MIME type) Karl Voit
2022-10-18 1:55 ` Timothy
2022-10-18 7:22 ` Org-mode syntax as a tool-independent MIME type Bastien
2022-10-18 8:13 ` Karl Voit
2022-10-21 11:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-18 8:05 ` Karl Voit
2022-10-21 11:41 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2021-03-23 3:00 ` Shower thought: submit an IETF RFC to register Org as a " Timothy
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