Dates in headlines

Dates in headlines

[Ypo]

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I think I've read somewhere that it is a "bad practice" to use dates in 
headlines, is it correct? I haven't found it in the manual.

Like:

**** <2022-06-29 mi. 10:30> Meeting

Best regards

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Re: Dates in headlines

[Jean Louis]

On 2022-06-28 12:06, Ypo wrote:
> I think I've read somewhere that it is a "bad practice" to use dates
> in headlines, is it correct? I haven't found it in the manual.
> 
> Like:
> 
> **** <2022-06-29 mi. 10:30> Meeting
> 
> Best regards

In many of my notes I use dates in titles of the section. Note creation 
is not always equal to date to which not relates. When it is useful, use 
it.

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Re: Dates in headlines

[Samuel Wales]

this iirc has been obsolete for many years and ime and on ml never was
an issue.  i tried to find out why it was mentioned but did not find
anything.  it might have been an ambiguity in the manual to do with
active tses like in your example?  e.g. the agenda will remove the
active ts at least in certain cases, but that is a deliberate feature.

i successfully rely on inactive as below.  they are sorted by the ts.
a capture template inserts them.

much better than date trees for my case.  always show, sorted at
bottom, no hierarchy, nothing out of sync, can scan and bisect to find
an entry or get a sense of number, can change a ts and sort again,
looks the same in the agenda, etc.


***** LOG [2021-07-01 Thu] vulcans mediating with klingons
***** LOG [2021-06-28 Mon 15:44] brawl.  scottie of course :(.
***** LOG [2021-06-28 Mon 15:44] hauled away AS garbage?
***** LOG [2021-06-28 Mon 15:44] klingons said garbage scow


On 6/28/22, Ypo <ypuntot@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think I've read somewhere that it is a "bad practice" to use dates in
> headlines, is it correct? I haven't found it in the manual.
>
> Like:
>
> **** <2022-06-29 mi. 10:30> Meeting
>
> Best regards
>


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Re: Dates in headlines

[Ypo]

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Thanks, Jean and Samuel, I will keep using them without remorse then :-)

Best regards!



El 28/06/2022 a las 23:13, Jean Louis escribió:
 > On 2022-06-28 12:06, Ypo wrote:
 >> I think I've read somewhere that it is a "bad practice" to use dates
 >> in headlines, is it correct? I haven't found it in the manual.
 >>
 >> Like:
 >>
 >> **** <2022-06-29 mi. 10:30> Meeting
 >>
 >> Best regards
 >
 > In many of my notes I use dates in titles of the section. Note 
creation is not always equal to date to which not relates. When it is 
useful, use it.

El 29/06/2022 a las 1:23, Samuel Wales escribió:
> this iirc has been obsolete for many years and ime and on ml never was
> an issue.  i tried to find out why it was mentioned but did not find
> anything.  it might have been an ambiguity in the manual to do with
> active tses like in your example?  e.g. the agenda will remove the
> active ts at least in certain cases, but that is a deliberate feature.
>
> i successfully rely on inactive as below.  they are sorted by the ts.
> a capture template inserts them.
>
> much better than date trees for my case.  always show, sorted at
> bottom, no hierarchy, nothing out of sync, can scan and bisect to find
> an entry or get a sense of number, can change a ts and sort again,
> looks the same in the agenda, etc.
>
>
> ***** LOG [2021-07-01 Thu] vulcans mediating with klingons
> ***** LOG [2021-06-28 Mon 15:44] brawl.  scottie of course :(.
> ***** LOG [2021-06-28 Mon 15:44] hauled away AS garbage?
> ***** LOG [2021-06-28 Mon 15:44] klingons said garbage scow
>
>
> On 6/28/22, Ypo<ypuntot@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> I think I've read somewhere that it is a "bad practice" to use dates in
>> headlines, is it correct? I haven't found it in the manual.
>>
>> Like:
>>
>> **** <2022-06-29 mi. 10:30> Meeting
>>
>> Best regards
>>

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What is a "date tree"? (find manual unclear) [was: Re: Dates in headlines]

[Alain.Cochard]

Samuel Wales writes on Tue 28 Jun 2022 16:23:

 > [inactive timestamps] much better than date trees for my case.

Reading this, I tried to find out what a date tree is.

The manual says (in 10.1.3.1):

   A date tree is an outline structure with years on the highest
   level, months or ISO weeks as sublevels and then dates on the
   lowest level.

which I don't understand.  Could I be provided with a simple example
of a date tree?

Also, in the manual, the 'Main index' has the entry:

   * date tree: Using capture.  

but, if I follow the link, I end up in 10.1.2, in a paragraph about
'M-x org-capture' and I don't see the relevance with date trees.

Regards.


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Re: What is a "date tree"? (find manual unclear) [was: Re: Dates in headlines]

[Ihor Radchenko]

Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr writes:

> Samuel Wales writes on Tue 28 Jun 2022 16:23:
>
>  > [inactive timestamps] much better than date trees for my case.
>
> Reading this, I tried to find out what a date tree is.
>
> The manual says (in 10.1.3.1):
>
>    A date tree is an outline structure with years on the highest
>    level, months or ISO weeks as sublevels and then dates on the
>    lowest level.
>
> which I don't understand.  Could I be provided with a simple example
> of a date tree?

Indeed. Thanks for the heads-up!
Added on main.
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=eece396db88e5793c994825fcb1f75d13091ee5c

> Also, in the manual, the 'Main index' has the entry:
>
>    * date tree: Using capture.  
>
> but, if I follow the link, I end up in 10.1.2, in a paragraph about
> 'M-x org-capture' and I don't see the relevance with date trees.

Fixed. Now the index entry points to Capture template elements section.
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=9ef449224bc532f5cb2d0bc95cce0bb4a43c73bf

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