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* Dates in headlines
@ 2022-06-28  9:06 Ypo
  2022-06-28 21:13 ` Jean Louis
  2022-06-28 23:23 ` Samuel Wales
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ypo @ 2022-06-28  9:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Org-mode

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I think I've read somewhere that it is a "bad practice" to use dates in 
headlines, is it correct? I haven't found it in the manual.

Like:

**** <2022-06-29 mi. 10:30> Meeting

Best regards

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* Re: Dates in headlines
  2022-06-28  9:06 Dates in headlines Ypo
@ 2022-06-28 21:13 ` Jean Louis
  2022-06-28 23:23 ` Samuel Wales
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jean Louis @ 2022-06-28 21:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ypo; +Cc: Org-mode, Emacs-orgmode

On 2022-06-28 12:06, Ypo wrote:
> I think I've read somewhere that it is a "bad practice" to use dates
> in headlines, is it correct? I haven't found it in the manual.
> 
> Like:
> 
> **** <2022-06-29 mi. 10:30> Meeting
> 
> Best regards

In many of my notes I use dates in titles of the section. Note creation 
is not always equal to date to which not relates. When it is useful, use 
it.

-- 
Jean

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* Re: Dates in headlines
  2022-06-28  9:06 Dates in headlines Ypo
  2022-06-28 21:13 ` Jean Louis
@ 2022-06-28 23:23 ` Samuel Wales
  2022-06-29 18:11   ` Ypo
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Wales @ 2022-06-28 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ypo; +Cc: Org-mode

this iirc has been obsolete for many years and ime and on ml never was
an issue.  i tried to find out why it was mentioned but did not find
anything.  it might have been an ambiguity in the manual to do with
active tses like in your example?  e.g. the agenda will remove the
active ts at least in certain cases, but that is a deliberate feature.

i successfully rely on inactive as below.  they are sorted by the ts.
a capture template inserts them.

much better than date trees for my case.  always show, sorted at
bottom, no hierarchy, nothing out of sync, can scan and bisect to find
an entry or get a sense of number, can change a ts and sort again,
looks the same in the agenda, etc.


***** LOG [2021-07-01 Thu] vulcans mediating with klingons
***** LOG [2021-06-28 Mon 15:44] brawl.  scottie of course :(.
***** LOG [2021-06-28 Mon 15:44] hauled away AS garbage?
***** LOG [2021-06-28 Mon 15:44] klingons said garbage scow


On 6/28/22, Ypo <ypuntot@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think I've read somewhere that it is a "bad practice" to use dates in
> headlines, is it correct? I haven't found it in the manual.
>
> Like:
>
> **** <2022-06-29 mi. 10:30> Meeting
>
> Best regards
>


-- 
The Kafka Pandemic

A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy:
https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com


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* Re: Dates in headlines
  2022-06-28 23:23 ` Samuel Wales
@ 2022-06-29 18:11   ` Ypo
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ypo @ 2022-06-29 18:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Samuel Wales, Jean Louis; +Cc: Org-mode

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Thanks, Jean and Samuel, I will keep using them without remorse then :-)

Best regards!



El 28/06/2022 a las 23:13, Jean Louis escribió:
 > On 2022-06-28 12:06, Ypo wrote:
 >> I think I've read somewhere that it is a "bad practice" to use dates
 >> in headlines, is it correct? I haven't found it in the manual.
 >>
 >> Like:
 >>
 >> **** <2022-06-29 mi. 10:30> Meeting
 >>
 >> Best regards
 >
 > In many of my notes I use dates in titles of the section. Note 
creation is not always equal to date to which not relates. When it is 
useful, use it.

El 29/06/2022 a las 1:23, Samuel Wales escribió:
> this iirc has been obsolete for many years and ime and on ml never was
> an issue.  i tried to find out why it was mentioned but did not find
> anything.  it might have been an ambiguity in the manual to do with
> active tses like in your example?  e.g. the agenda will remove the
> active ts at least in certain cases, but that is a deliberate feature.
>
> i successfully rely on inactive as below.  they are sorted by the ts.
> a capture template inserts them.
>
> much better than date trees for my case.  always show, sorted at
> bottom, no hierarchy, nothing out of sync, can scan and bisect to find
> an entry or get a sense of number, can change a ts and sort again,
> looks the same in the agenda, etc.
>
>
> ***** LOG [2021-07-01 Thu] vulcans mediating with klingons
> ***** LOG [2021-06-28 Mon 15:44] brawl.  scottie of course :(.
> ***** LOG [2021-06-28 Mon 15:44] hauled away AS garbage?
> ***** LOG [2021-06-28 Mon 15:44] klingons said garbage scow
>
>
> On 6/28/22, Ypo<ypuntot@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> I think I've read somewhere that it is a "bad practice" to use dates in
>> headlines, is it correct? I haven't found it in the manual.
>>
>> Like:
>>
>> **** <2022-06-29 mi. 10:30> Meeting
>>
>> Best regards
>>

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* Re: Dates in headlines
  2022-08-16 17:45 Ypo
@ 2022-08-19  5:58 ` Ihor Radchenko
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-08-19  5:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ypo; +Cc: samologist, Org-mode

Ypo <ypuntot@gmail.com> writes:

> I found it again:
>
> "If the headline contains a timestamp, it is removed from the link, 
> which results in a wrong link—you should avoid putting a timestamp in 
> the headline."
>
> https://orgmode.org/manual/Handling-Links.html#FOOT28

Unless I miss something, this footnote is plain wrong. The timestamps
are not removed. At least not when I run M-x org-store-link on a
headline with timestamp with emacs -Q.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at https://orgmode.org/.
Support Org development at https://liberapay.com/org-mode,
or support my work at https://liberapay.com/yantar92


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* Re: Dates in headlines
@ 2022-08-16 17:45 Ypo
  2022-08-19  5:58 ` Ihor Radchenko
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ypo @ 2022-08-16 17:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: samologist, Org-mode

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I found it again:

"If the headline contains a timestamp, it is removed from the link, 
which results in a wrong link—you should avoid putting a timestamp in 
the headline."

https://orgmode.org/manual/Handling-Links.html#FOOT28



> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> this iirc has been obsolete for many years and ime and on ml never was
> an issue.  i tried to find out why it was mentioned but did not find
> anything.  it might have been an ambiguity in the manual to do with
> active tses like in your example?  e.g. the agenda will remove the
> active ts at least in certain cases, but that is a deliberate feature.
>
> i successfully rely on inactive as below.  they are sorted by the ts.
> a capture template inserts them.
>
> much better than date trees for my case.  always show, sorted at
> bottom, no hierarchy, nothing out of sync, can scan and bisect to find
> an entry or get a sense of number, can change a ts and sort again,
> looks the same in the agenda, etc.
>
>
> ***** LOG [2021-07-01 Thu] vulcans mediating with klingons
> ***** LOG [2021-06-28 Mon 15:44] brawl.  scottie of course :(.
> ***** LOG [2021-06-28 Mon 15:44] hauled away AS garbage?
> ***** LOG [2021-06-28 Mon 15:44] klingons said garbage scow
>
>
> On 6/28/22, Ypo<ypuntot@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >/I think I've read somewhere that it is a "bad practice" to use dates in/
> >/headlines, is it correct? I haven't found it in the manual./
> >
> >/Like:/
> >
> >/**** <2022-06-29 mi. 10:30> Meeting/
> >
> >/Best regards/
> >
> *From*: 	Samuel Wales
> *Subject*: 	Re: Dates in headlines
> *Date*: 	Tue, 28 Jun 2022 16:23:02 -0700
>

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