From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [patch] Fixes and improvements in org-latex-language-alist (was: ox-latex language handling in Org-9.5 vs 9.6)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:05:45 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878r9biwwm.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <udnheh$c9o$1@ciao.gmane.io>
Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:
>> It is already a public constant. And I see no strong reason to change
>> this (strong enough to justify breaking change).
>
> Every piece of code accessing this public constant must implement
> fallback from e.g. "de-ch" (or de_CH) to "de". Or to "en" for an
> unsupported language. To achieve consistent behavior it is better to
> provide a helper function.
Not necessarily. I mostly thought about some unconventional code that
uses the constant for some reason unexpected to us. We do not want to
break that.
Helper function is certainly a good idea. I did plan for it.
>>> I have a hope that properties may be generated from CLDR data, LaTeX
>>> babel .ini files, etc. However it should be possible to override
>>> specific properties.
>>
>> For context, I plan to provide a global language-identifier alist that
>> will link human-readable language names to abbreviations like "de",
>> "de-de", etc.
>
> This languange-region identifiers may be written in different way
> (dash/underscore, case), but they are used specify POSIX locale LANG,
> LC_* and extensions like LANGUAGE, so in some cases human friendly names
> may be less convenient.
Sorry, but I do not follow you about the downsides of "human friendly" names.
>> Though I am not sure if we can easily handle tricky
>> cases like weird installation directory for TeXLive or MikTeX.
>
> kpsewhich babel-de.ini
which may not be in the PATH.
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/babel/locale/de/babel-de.ini
which is not true on Guix, or when installed under /opt via make install.
I did not mean the conventional distros that follow conventional naming
schemes, but the edge cases - I see no point adding automation just to
fight various non-standard user installations later. It will not make
maintenance any easier.
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
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Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-12 9:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-06 14:55 ox-latex language handling in Org-9.5 vs 9.6 Max Nikulin
2023-09-06 22:20 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-07 10:38 ` Max Nikulin
2023-09-07 11:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-07 14:19 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-07 14:49 ` Max Nikulin
2023-09-08 10:30 ` Max Nikulin
2023-09-08 14:42 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-08 19:02 ` [patch] Fixes and improvements in org-latex-language-alist (was: ox-latex language handling in Org-9.5 vs 9.6) Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-09 9:11 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-09 10:36 ` [patch] Fixes and improvements in org-latex-language-alist Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-09 11:33 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-09 23:59 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-10 7:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-10 11:06 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-10 13:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-10 16:15 ` [patch] Fixes and improvements in org-latex-language-alist (was: ox-latex language handling in Org-9.5 vs 9.6) Max Nikulin
2023-09-10 16:52 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-10 21:15 ` [patch] Fixes and improvements in org-latex-language-alist Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-11 8:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-11 17:06 ` [patch] Fixes and improvements in org-latex-language-alist (was: ox-latex language handling in Org-9.5 vs 9.6) Max Nikulin
2023-09-12 9:05 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-09-12 15:22 ` Max Nikulin
2023-09-12 18:12 ` [patch] Fixes and improvements in org-latex-language-alist Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-15 9:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-15 9:51 ` [patch] Fixes and improvements in org-latex-language-alist (was: ox-latex language handling in Org-9.5 vs 9.6) Ihor Radchenko
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