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From: "Juan Manuel Macías" <maciaschain@posteo.net>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>,  emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [patch] Fixes and improvements in org-latex-language-alist
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2023 21:15:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y1hdvifa.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877coy9djg.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Sun, 10 Sep 2023 16:52:03 +0000")

Ihor Radchenko writes:

> For context, I plan to provide a global language-identifier alist that
> will link human-readable language names to abbreviations like "de",
> "de-de", etc. These abbreviations are not unique to LaTeX, but also used
> elsewhere, so there is no guarantee that babel .ini files will always
> use a consistent set of language abbreviations.

Is the code you're working on in a public repository, to keep an eye on?
As I mentioned in previous messages, that seems like a great improvement
to me. I think it was not a happy decision at the time to use languages
codes to declare the language of the document in Org. Language codes can
be useful at a low level (although they can also lead to confusion), but
I think that for a user level it is more practical to use human-readable
names, as is done in babel or polyglossia, and in general, any user
interface outside of LaTeX. Although babel also allows language codes as
a value for some \babelprovide options (for example, I can define a new
"virtual" language, importing the Greek captions:
\babelprovide[captions=el]{mylanguage}).

In case it helps you, on page. 19 of the Babel manual there is an
exhaustive list of all the languages codes, and on p. 22 a list of
supported (human readable) language names for loading ini files. The
language names of the old ldf files are on p. 49:

https://CTAN/macros/latex/required/babel/base/babel.pdf

-- 
Juan Manuel Macías

https://juanmanuelmacias.com

https://lunotipia.juanmanuelmacias.com

https://gnutas.juanmanuelmacias.com


  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-10 21:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-06 14:55 ox-latex language handling in Org-9.5 vs 9.6 Max Nikulin
2023-09-06 22:20 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-07 10:38   ` Max Nikulin
2023-09-07 11:50   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-07 14:19     ` Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-07 14:49       ` Max Nikulin
2023-09-08 10:30         ` Max Nikulin
2023-09-08 14:42           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-08 19:02             ` [patch] Fixes and improvements in org-latex-language-alist (was: ox-latex language handling in Org-9.5 vs 9.6) Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-09  9:11               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-09 10:36                 ` [patch] Fixes and improvements in org-latex-language-alist Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-09 11:33                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-09 23:59                     ` Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-10  7:55                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-10 11:06                         ` Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-10 13:36                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-10 16:15                 ` [patch] Fixes and improvements in org-latex-language-alist (was: ox-latex language handling in Org-9.5 vs 9.6) Max Nikulin
2023-09-10 16:52                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-10 21:15                     ` Juan Manuel Macías [this message]
2023-09-11  8:32                       ` [patch] Fixes and improvements in org-latex-language-alist Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-11 17:06                     ` [patch] Fixes and improvements in org-latex-language-alist (was: ox-latex language handling in Org-9.5 vs 9.6) Max Nikulin
2023-09-12  9:05                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-12 15:22                         ` Max Nikulin
2023-09-12 18:12                           ` [patch] Fixes and improvements in org-latex-language-alist Juan Manuel Macías
2023-09-15  9:54                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-15  9:51                           ` [patch] Fixes and improvements in org-latex-language-alist (was: ox-latex language handling in Org-9.5 vs 9.6) Ihor Radchenko

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