Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Sébastien Vauban]

Hi,

A couple of days ago, I've asked (on the Gnus ML) if it was somehow possible
to add new markers for highlighting Babel blocks (among others).

This is the (highlighted) answer of "Larsi" (author of Gnus):

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf-geNee64TY+gS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
>> I would like to get such Org constructs:
>>
>> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>> (setq org-latex-to-pdf-process '("sh -v -x texi2dvi -p -b -c -V %f"))
>> #+end_src
>>
>> or
>>
>> #+begin_src sh
>> ls
>> #+end_src
>>
>> to be *highlighted* when viewed (while reading received messages).
>
> Doesn't Org mode have hooks into Gnus to do stuff like that?
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I don't have in mind full fontification like we now have in Org. No: *just the
basic yellow background*, so that code blocks are outstanding in any mail,
exactly *like it is now* but for the "cut here" markers (or "v+/v-").

Though, I don't know where to begin... Can some Org/Gnus expert give a hint?

Best regards,
  Seb

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Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Eric Schulte]

Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> writes:

[...]
>
> I don't have in mind full fontification like we now have in Org. No: *just the
> basic yellow background*, so that code blocks are outstanding in any mail,
> exactly *like it is now* but for the "cut here" markers (or "v+/v-").
>

While we're at it, why not go all the way to full fontification code
block fontification?  Is the current code in org-src portable enough to
be applied to this (or maybe be applied whenever org-struct mode is
enabled)?

>
> Though, I don't know where to begin... Can some Org/Gnus expert give a
> hint?
>

This strays out of my narrow areas of expertise, but I hereby throw my
+1 onto the request.

>
> Best regards,
>   Seb

Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Sébastien Vauban]

Hi Eric,

"Eric Schulte" wrote:
> Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf-geNee64TY+gS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org> writes:
>> I don't have in mind full fontification like we now have in Org. No: *just
>> the basic yellow background*, so that code blocks are outstanding in any
>> mail, exactly *like it is now* but for the "cut here" markers (or "v+/v-").
>
> While we're at it, why not go all the way to full fontification code block
> fontification? Is the current code in org-src portable enough to be applied
> to this (or maybe be applied whenever org-struct mode is enabled)?

Yes, we can!?

No idea... Maybe David could answer on such a topic?


>> Though, I don't know where to begin... Can some Org/Gnus expert give a
>> hint?
>
> This strays out of my narrow areas of expertise, but I hereby throw my +1
> onto the request.

Playing a bit around, I've succeeded to make it work for the blocks, and
almost for the results.

Add the following to your =.gnus=:

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
      (add-to-list 'mm-uu-type-alist
                   '(org-babel-block
                     "^#\\+begin_src"
                     "^#\\+end_src"
                     (lambda nil
                       (mm-uu-verbatim-marks-extract 0 0))
                     nil))
      (add-to-list 'mm-uu-type-alist
                   '(org-babel-results
                     "^#\\+results:"
                     "\n\n"
                     (lambda nil
                       (mm-uu-verbatim-marks-extract 0 0))
                     nil))
      (mm-uu-configure)
#+end_src

If anybody can help for the results part... I must admit I've more cloned
existing parts than really understood every bit...

What'd be an good extra is the colorization of such =org-verbatim= strings...

Best regards,
  Seb

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Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Sébastien Vauban]

Hi,

> "Eric Schulte" wrote:
>> Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf-geNee64TY+gS+FvcfC7Uqw-XMD5yJDbdMRG2NFembrH+g@public.gmane.orgorg> writes:
>>> I don't have in mind full fontification like we now have in Org. No: *just
>>> the basic yellow background*, so that code blocks are outstanding in any
>>> mail, exactly *like it is now* but for the "cut here" markers (or "v+/v-").
>>
>> While we're at it, why not go all the way to full fontification code block
>> fontification? Is the current code in org-src portable enough to be applied
>> to this (or maybe be applied whenever org-struct mode is enabled)?
>
> Yes, we can!?
>
> No idea... Maybe David could answer on such a topic?
>
>
>>> Though, I don't know where to begin... Can some Org/Gnus expert give a
>>> hint?
>>
>> This strays out of my narrow areas of expertise, but I hereby throw my +1
>> onto the request.
>
> Playing a bit around, I've succeeded to make it work for the blocks, and
> almost for the results.

Put this in your .emacs file:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
      ;; regexp matching TeX groups
      (setq mm-uu-tex-groups-regexp ".*")

      (eval-after-load "mm-uu"
        '(progn
           (add-to-list 'mailcap-mime-extensions '(".org" . "text/org"))
           (add-to-list 'mm-automatic-display "text/org")
           ;; (add-to-list 'mm-inlined-types "text/org")
           (add-to-list 'mm-inline-media-tests
                        '("text/org"
                          my-display-org-inline
                          identity))

           (defun my-display-org-inline (handle)
             (mm-display-inline-fontify handle 'org-mode))

           (defun my-mm-org-babel-src-extract ()
             (mm-make-handle (mm-uu-copy-to-buffer start-point end-point)
                             '("text/org")
                             nil nil
                             (list mm-dissect-disposition
                                   (cons 'filename "Org Babel source file"))))

           (add-to-list 'mm-uu-type-alist
                        '(org-babel-block
                          "^#\\+begin_"
                          "^#\\+end_"
                          ;; (lambda nil
                          ;;   (mm-uu-verbatim-marks-extract 0 0))
                          my-mm-org-babel-src-extract
                          nil))
           (mm-uu-configure)))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

This is an enhanced version of what I sent previously: here, the identified
block is highlighted as an Org-mode buffer. In other words, it's not in yellow
background anymore, but really using the faces you've customized for such an
Org-Babel block in a standard Org buffer.


> What'd be an good extra is the colorization of such =org-verbatim= strings...

Still true; no clue for that one...

Best regards,
  Seb

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Re: Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Eric Schulte]

Hi Seb,

This is really great.  I finally folded it into my gnus setup, and while
it looks great when it works, I was getting frequent errors throw by the
org-mode fontification engine recursing too deeply.  I've changed it to
the following which augments what you sent with some simple error
handling.

** Org-mode code block fontification
Correctly fontify Org-mode attachments
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
    (add-to-list 'mailcap-mime-extensions '(".org" . "text/org"))
    (add-to-list 'mm-automatic-display "text/org")
    
    (add-to-list 'mm-inline-media-tests
                 '("text/org" my-display-org-inline
                   (lambda (el) t)))
    
    (defun my-display-org-inline (handle)
      (condition-case nil
          (mm-display-inline-fontify handle 'org-mode)
        (error
         (insert (with-temp-buffer (mm-insert-part handle) (buffer-string))
                 "\n"))))
#+end_src

Update =org-src-lang-modes= to provide some leeway for posters
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
  (add-to-list 'org-src-lang-modes
               '("elisp" . emacs-lisp))
  (add-to-list 'org-src-lang-modes
               '("emacs_lisp" . emacs-lisp))
#+end_src

Fontify code blocks in the text of messages
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
  (defun my-mm-org-babel-src-extract ()
    (mm-make-handle (mm-uu-copy-to-buffer start-point end-point) '("text/org")))
  
  (add-to-list 'mm-uu-type-alist
               '(org-src-block
                 "^[ \t]*#\\+begin_"
                 "^[ \t]*#\\+end_"
                 my-mm-org-babel-src-extract
                 nil))
  
  (mm-uu-configure)
#+end_src

Best -- Eric

Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> writes:

> Hi,
>
>> "Eric Schulte" wrote:
>>> Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf-geNee64TY+gS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>>> I don't have in mind full fontification like we now have in Org. No: *just
>>>> the basic yellow background*, so that code blocks are outstanding in any
>>>> mail, exactly *like it is now* but for the "cut here" markers (or "v+/v-").
>>>
>>> While we're at it, why not go all the way to full fontification code block
>>> fontification? Is the current code in org-src portable enough to be applied
>>> to this (or maybe be applied whenever org-struct mode is enabled)?
>>
>> Yes, we can!?
>>
>> No idea... Maybe David could answer on such a topic?
>>
>>
>>>> Though, I don't know where to begin... Can some Org/Gnus expert give a
>>>> hint?
>>>
>>> This strays out of my narrow areas of expertise, but I hereby throw my +1
>>> onto the request.
>>
>> Playing a bit around, I've succeeded to make it work for the blocks, and
>> almost for the results.
>
> Put this in your .emacs file:
>
>       ;; regexp matching TeX groups
>       (setq mm-uu-tex-groups-regexp ".*")
>
>       (eval-after-load "mm-uu"
>         '(progn
>            (add-to-list 'mailcap-mime-extensions '(".org" . "text/org"))
>            (add-to-list 'mm-automatic-display "text/org")
>            ;; (add-to-list 'mm-inlined-types "text/org")
>            (add-to-list 'mm-inline-media-tests
>                         '("text/org"
>                           my-display-org-inline
>                           identity))
>
>            (defun my-display-org-inline (handle)
>              (mm-display-inline-fontify handle 'org-mode))
>
>            (defun my-mm-org-babel-src-extract ()
>              (mm-make-handle (mm-uu-copy-to-buffer start-point end-point)
>                              '("text/org")
>                              nil nil
>                              (list mm-dissect-disposition
>                                    (cons 'filename "Org Babel source file"))))
>
>            (add-to-list 'mm-uu-type-alist
>                         '(org-babel-block
>                           "^#\\+begin_"
>                           "^#\\+end_"
>                           ;; (lambda nil
>                           ;;   (mm-uu-verbatim-marks-extract 0 0))
>                           my-mm-org-babel-src-extract
>                           nil))
>            (mm-uu-configure)))
>
> This is an enhanced version of what I sent previously: here, the identified
> block is highlighted as an Org-mode buffer. In other words, it's not in yellow
> background anymore, but really using the faces you've customized for such an
> Org-Babel block in a standard Org buffer.
>
>
>> What'd be an good extra is the colorization of such =org-verbatim= strings...
>
> Still true; no clue for that one...
>
> Best regards,
>   Seb

Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Dan Davison]

Hi Seb,

Wow, magic. I've totally got no idea how it works, but thanks!

Dan

"Eric Schulte" <schulte.eric@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi Seb,
>
> This is really great.  I finally folded it into my gnus setup, and while
> it looks great when it works, I was getting frequent errors throw by the
> org-mode fontification engine recursing too deeply.  I've changed it to
> the following which augments what you sent with some simple error
> handling.
>
> ** Org-mode code block fontification
> Correctly fontify Org-mode attachments
> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>     (add-to-list 'mailcap-mime-extensions '(".org" . "text/org"))
>     (add-to-list 'mm-automatic-display "text/org")
>     
>     (add-to-list 'mm-inline-media-tests
>                  '("text/org" my-display-org-inline
>                    (lambda (el) t)))
>     
>     (defun my-display-org-inline (handle)
>       (condition-case nil
>           (mm-display-inline-fontify handle 'org-mode)
>         (error
>          (insert (with-temp-buffer (mm-insert-part handle) (buffer-string))
>                  "\n"))))
> #+end_src
>
> Update =org-src-lang-modes= to provide some leeway for posters
> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>   (add-to-list 'org-src-lang-modes
>                '("elisp" . emacs-lisp))
>   (add-to-list 'org-src-lang-modes
>                '("emacs_lisp" . emacs-lisp))
> #+end_src
>
> Fontify code blocks in the text of messages
> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>   (defun my-mm-org-babel-src-extract ()
>     (mm-make-handle (mm-uu-copy-to-buffer start-point end-point) '("text/org")))
>   
>   (add-to-list 'mm-uu-type-alist
>                '(org-src-block
>                  "^[ \t]*#\\+begin_"
>                  "^[ \t]*#\\+end_"
>                  my-mm-org-babel-src-extract
>                  nil))
>   
>   (mm-uu-configure)
> #+end_src
>
> Best -- Eric
>
> Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> "Eric Schulte" wrote:
>>>> Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf-geNee64TY+gS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>>>> I don't have in mind full fontification like we now have in Org. No: *just
>>>>> the basic yellow background*, so that code blocks are outstanding in any
>>>>> mail, exactly *like it is now* but for the "cut here" markers (or "v+/v-").
>>>>
>>>> While we're at it, why not go all the way to full fontification code block
>>>> fontification? Is the current code in org-src portable enough to be applied
>>>> to this (or maybe be applied whenever org-struct mode is enabled)?
>>>
>>> Yes, we can!?
>>>
>>> No idea... Maybe David could answer on such a topic?
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Though, I don't know where to begin... Can some Org/Gnus expert give a
>>>>> hint?
>>>>
>>>> This strays out of my narrow areas of expertise, but I hereby throw my +1
>>>> onto the request.
>>>
>>> Playing a bit around, I've succeeded to make it work for the blocks, and
>>> almost for the results.
>>
>> Put this in your .emacs file:
>>
>>       ;; regexp matching TeX groups
>>       (setq mm-uu-tex-groups-regexp ".*")
>>
>>       (eval-after-load "mm-uu"
>>         '(progn
>>            (add-to-list 'mailcap-mime-extensions '(".org" . "text/org"))
>>            (add-to-list 'mm-automatic-display "text/org")
>>            ;; (add-to-list 'mm-inlined-types "text/org")
>>            (add-to-list 'mm-inline-media-tests
>>                         '("text/org"
>>                           my-display-org-inline
>>                           identity))
>>
>>            (defun my-display-org-inline (handle)
>>              (mm-display-inline-fontify handle 'org-mode))
>>
>>            (defun my-mm-org-babel-src-extract ()
>>              (mm-make-handle (mm-uu-copy-to-buffer start-point end-point)
>>                              '("text/org")
>>                              nil nil
>>                              (list mm-dissect-disposition
>>                                    (cons 'filename "Org Babel source file"))))
>>
>>            (add-to-list 'mm-uu-type-alist
>>                         '(org-babel-block
>>                           "^#\\+begin_"
>>                           "^#\\+end_"
>>                           ;; (lambda nil
>>                           ;;   (mm-uu-verbatim-marks-extract 0 0))
>>                           my-mm-org-babel-src-extract
>>                           nil))
>>            (mm-uu-configure)))
>>
>> This is an enhanced version of what I sent previously: here, the identified
>> block is highlighted as an Org-mode buffer. In other words, it's not in yellow
>> background anymore, but really using the faces you've customized for such an
>> Org-Babel block in a standard Org buffer.
>>
>>
>>> What'd be an good extra is the colorization of such =org-verbatim= strings...
>>
>> Still true; no clue for that one...
>>
>> Best regards,
>>   Seb
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Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Sébastien Vauban]

Hi Eric (and Dan),

"Eric Schulte" wrote:
> This is really great.  I finally folded it into my gnus setup, and while
> it looks great when it works

Great you love it. I'm *VERY* pleased. Moreover, having no reaction on that
(and on some other posts[1]), I thought I'd been kill-filed ;-)[2]


> I was getting frequent errors throw by the org-mode fontification engine
> recursing too deeply. I've changed it to the following which augments what
> you sent with some simple error handling.

I _never_ observed problems in my case. Anyway, adding such a protection is
the code is a great addition. Thanks!

I've just singed the FSF papers. Once received by the FSF, I'll propagate your
update onto the Gnus newsgroup.


> ** Org-mode code block fontification
> Correctly fontify Org-mode attachments
> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>     (add-to-list 'mailcap-mime-extensions '(".org" . "text/org"))
>     (add-to-list 'mm-automatic-display "text/org")
>     
>     (add-to-list 'mm-inline-media-tests
>                  '("text/org" my-display-org-inline
>                    (lambda (el) t)))
>     
>     (defun my-display-org-inline (handle)
>       (condition-case nil
>           (mm-display-inline-fontify handle 'org-mode)
>         (error
>          (insert (with-temp-buffer (mm-insert-part handle) (buffer-string))
>                  "\n"))))
> #+end_src
>
> Update =org-src-lang-modes= to provide some leeway for posters
> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>   (add-to-list 'org-src-lang-modes
>                '("elisp" . emacs-lisp))
>   (add-to-list 'org-src-lang-modes
>                '("emacs_lisp" . emacs-lisp))
> #+end_src
>
> Fontify code blocks in the text of messages
> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>   (defun my-mm-org-babel-src-extract ()
>     (mm-make-handle (mm-uu-copy-to-buffer start-point end-point) '("text/org")))
>   
>   (add-to-list 'mm-uu-type-alist
>                '(org-src-block
>                  "^[ \t]*#\\+begin_"
>                  "^[ \t]*#\\+end_"
>                  my-mm-org-babel-src-extract
>                  nil))
>   
>   (mm-uu-configure)
> #+end_src

When I have a bit of time (not directly ;-(), I will try adding missing bits:

- colorization of such =org-verbatim= strings, and
- of the =:results= "blocks" or lines.

A difficulty, maybe, for the latter is the absence of explicit marker. Not
that true: it's a newline...

When that will be done, we will have a real Org experience when reading mails
with Gnus. I love all this tools.

Best regards,
  Seb

Footnotes:
[1] I will send an updated version on the one about sh session.
[2] Just kidding. Using org-footnote BTW.
-- 
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Re: Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Eric S Fraga]

Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> writes:

> Hi Eric (and Dan),
>
> "Eric Schulte" wrote:
>> This is really great.  I finally folded it into my gnus setup, and while
>> it looks great when it works
>
> Great you love it. I'm *VERY* pleased. Moreover, having no reaction on that
> (and on some other posts[1]), I thought I'd been kill-filed ;-)[2]

Sébastien et al.,

I have also included the code in my gnus configuration but I am not sure
if it is actually doing anything or not.  Well, actually, I think it
*is* doing something but I haven't actually seen any fontification etc.
On the other hand, I am still getting to grips with gnus article display
functionality so I've probably done something wrong...

If there are any obvious things I should be looking at, please let me know.

>> I was getting frequent errors throw by the org-mode fontification engine
>> recursing too deeply. I've changed it to the following which augments what
>> you sent with some simple error handling.
>
> I _never_ observed problems in my case. Anyway, adding such a protection is
> the code is a great addition. Thanks!
>
> I've just singed the FSF papers. Once received by the FSF, I'll
> propagate your update onto the Gnus newsgroup.

Please post here as well.  I do follow the gnus newsgroup but less
frequently.

> When that will be done, we will have a real Org experience when
> reading mails with Gnus. I love all this tools.

Yes, there's great potential for the gnus+org combination to give a
really nice email experience!

Thanks,
eric
-- 
: Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 23.2.1
: using Org-mode version 7.02trans (release_7.3.14.g106ad)

Re: Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Eric Schulte]

Eric S Fraga <ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> writes:

> Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> writes:
>
>> Hi Eric (and Dan),
>>
>> "Eric Schulte" wrote:
>>> This is really great.  I finally folded it into my gnus setup, and while
>>> it looks great when it works
>>
>> Great you love it. I'm *VERY* pleased. Moreover, having no reaction on that
>> (and on some other posts[1]), I thought I'd been kill-filed ;-)[2]
>
> Sébastien et al.,
>
> I have also included the code in my gnus configuration but I am not sure
> if it is actually doing anything or not.  Well, actually, I think it
> *is* doing something but I haven't actually seen any fontification etc.
> On the other hand, I am still getting to grips with gnus article display
> functionality so I've probably done something wrong...
>

if it is working, then the following code block should be fontified as
if in an Org-mode buffer

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
  (message "is it working?")
#+end_src

>
> If there are any obvious things I should be looking at, please let me
> know.
>

the above should do it.  My addition recovers from failures by inserting
the unfontified text into the buffer, so it's possible that whatever
issue I have that throws errors on non-src blocks is also an issue on
your machine and is throwing errors on all blocks, which would explain
why you aren't seeing any difference in your article buffers.

>
>>> I was getting frequent errors throw by the org-mode fontification engine
>>> recursing too deeply. I've changed it to the following which augments what
>>> you sent with some simple error handling.
>>
>> I _never_ observed problems in my case. Anyway, adding such a protection is
>> the code is a great addition. Thanks!
>>
>> I've just singed the FSF papers. Once received by the FSF, I'll
>> propagate your update onto the Gnus newsgroup.
>
> Please post here as well.  I do follow the gnus newsgroup but less
> frequently.
>
>> When that will be done, we will have a real Org experience when
>> reading mails with Gnus. I love all this tools.
>
> Yes, there's great potential for the gnus+org combination to give a
> really nice email experience!
>
> Thanks,
> eric

Re: Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Eric S Fraga]

"Eric Schulte" <schulte.eric@gmail.com> writes:

[...]

> if it is working, then the following code block should be fontified as
> if in an Org-mode buffer
>
> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>   (message "is it working?")
> #+end_src

Definitely not working then!  This comes out as simple text in gnus and
doesn't look at all like it would in an org buffer for me.

[...]

> the above should do it.  My addition recovers from failures by inserting
> the unfontified text into the buffer, so it's possible that whatever
> issue I have that throws errors on non-src blocks is also an issue on
> your machine and is throwing errors on all blocks, which would explain
> why you aren't seeing any difference in your article buffers.

Looks like it.  Is there any way to debug this?  I don't get any
messages in Emacs (*Messages*).  I seem to have the same settings as
Sébastien has posted along with your augmented error handling.  I don't
really understand all the mm-uu code (although I'm learning...) so I am
not sure how gnus knows to invoke the specific org code you guys have
posted.

Maybe other gnus configurations, especially gnus-part-display-hook, may
be interfering?

thanks,
eric

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Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Sébastien Vauban]

Eric,

Eric S Fraga wrote:
> "Eric Schulte" <schulte.eric-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>> if it is working, then the following code block should be fontified as
>> if in an Org-mode buffer
>>
>> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>>   (message "is it working?")
>> #+end_src
>
> Definitely not working then!  This comes out as simple text in gnus and
> doesn't look at all like it would in an org buffer for me.
>
> [...]
>
>> the above should do it.  My addition recovers from failures by inserting
>> the unfontified text into the buffer, so it's possible that whatever
>> issue I have that throws errors on non-src blocks is also an issue on
>> your machine and is throwing errors on all blocks, which would explain
>> why you aren't seeing any difference in your article buffers.
>
> Looks like it.  Is there any way to debug this?  I don't get any
> messages in Emacs (*Messages*).  I seem to have the same settings as
> Sébastien has posted along with your augmented error handling.  I don't
> really understand all the mm-uu code (although I'm learning...) so I am
> not sure how gnus knows to invoke the specific org code you guys have
> posted.
>
> Maybe other gnus configurations, especially gnus-part-display-hook, may
> be interfering?

The only thing that I have in that direction is:

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
      ;; change a `\205' figure to "..."
      (add-hook 'gnus-part-display-hook 'article-treat-dumbquotes)
#+end_src

Do you want me to send you my .gnus privately?

Other ideas:

- which version of Gnus?  Gnus v5.13?

- which fonts for your Org code?  With colored *background*?

  Maybe have a try with my color-theme (see on Worg), or insert such lines
  into yours:

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
  (let* ((inline-code '(:foreground "blue1" :background "#EAFFEA"))
         (block-code '(:foreground "blue1" :background "#FFFFEA")))

       ;; [...]

       (org-block ((t ,block-code)))
       (org-code ((t ,inline-code)))
       (org-column ((t ,column)))
       (org-document-info-keyword ((t (:foreground "#008ED1" :background "#EAEAFF"))))
       (org-meta-line ((t (:foreground "#008ED1" :background "#EAEAFF"))))
       (org-special-keyword ((t (:foreground "#00BB00" :background "#EAFFEA"))))
       (org-table ((t (:foreground "blue1" :background "#EAFFEA"))))
       (org-verbatim ((t ,inline-code)))
#+end_src

Best regards,
  Seb

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Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Tassilo Horn]

Eric S Fraga <ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> writes:

Hi Eric,

>> if it is working, then the following code block should be fontified as
>> if in an Org-mode buffer
>>
>> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>>   (message "is it working?")
>> #+end_src
>
> Definitely not working then!  This comes out as simple text in gnus
> and doesn't look at all like it would in an org buffer for me.

Hm, for me it's shown the same as verbatim blocks or stuff like

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
this
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

with the difference that the markers are still visible, which is a good
thing, cause else the language wouldn't be visible.  I've added only

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
;; Highlight org-babel source code blocks and results like verbatim marks.
(add-to-list 'mm-uu-type-alist
	     '(org-babel-block
	       "^#\\+begin_src"
	       "^#\\+end_src"
	       (lambda nil
		 (mm-uu-verbatim-marks-extract 0 0))
	       nil))

(add-to-list 'mm-uu-type-alist
	     '(org-babel-results
	       "^#\\+results:"
	       "\n\n"
	       (lambda nil
		 (mm-uu-verbatim-marks-extract 0 0))
	       nil))

(mm-uu-configure)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

to my ~/.gnus.el.

I use the gnus version from its git repository, but that shouldn't make
a difference.

Bye,
Tassilo

Re: Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Eric S Fraga]

Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:

> Eric S Fraga <ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>
> Hi Eric,
>
>>> if it is working, then the following code block should be fontified as
>>> if in an Org-mode buffer
>>>
>>> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>>>   (message "is it working?")
>>> #+end_src
>>
>> Definitely not working then!  This comes out as simple text in gnus
>> and doesn't look at all like it would in an org buffer for me.
>
> Hm, for me it's shown the same as verbatim blocks or stuff like

Just to update you all.  I found the problem and it had nothing to do
with either gnus or org!  The problem was that I had the following in my
font-lock-mode-hook:

: (show-ws-highlight-trailing-whitespace)

This seemed to wipe out all other font locking information in gnus.
Whether this is a problem with the whitespace highlighting codes or
within gnus, I don't know but I can live without trailing spaces being
highlighted!

Apologies for all the noise and thanks to all that tried to help me!

Thanks,
eric
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Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Sébastien Vauban]

Hi Eric,

Eric S Fraga wrote:
> Tassilo Horn <tassilo-IGUgQLVVQiRCV4ILt04nZQ@public.gmane.org> writes:
>> Eric S Fraga <ucecesf-hclig2XLE9Zaa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>>> if it is working, then the following code block should be fontified as
>>>> if in an Org-mode buffer
>>>>
>>>> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>>>>   (message "is it working?")
>>>> #+end_src
>>>
>>> Definitely not working then!  This comes out as simple text in gnus
>>> and doesn't look at all like it would in an org buffer for me.
>>
>> Hm, for me it's shown the same as verbatim blocks or stuff like
>
> Just to update you all.  I found the problem and it had nothing to do
> with either gnus or org!  The problem was that I had the following in my
> font-lock-mode-hook:
>
> : (show-ws-highlight-trailing-whitespace)
>
> This seemed to wipe out all other font locking information in gnus.

Funny. I have this -- a lot in comments! -- in my .emacs file:

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
      ;; highlight trailing whitespaces in all modes
      (setq-default show-trailing-whitespace t)

      ;; ;; FIXME When turned on, Gnus becomes black and white only...
      ;; ;;*** show-wspace (emacs-goodies-el)
      ;; (when (try-require 'show-wspace)
      ;;   ;; Highlight tabs
      ;;   (add-hook 'font-lock-mode-hook 'show-ws-highlight-tabs)
      ;;
      ;;   ;; Highlight trailing whitespace
      ;;   (add-hook 'font-lock-mode-hook 'show-ws-highlight-trailing-whitespace)
      ;;
      ;;   ;; Highlight non-breaking spaces
      ;;   (add-hook 'font-lock-mode-hook 'show-ws-highlight-hard-spaces))


      ;; FIXME Same problem as above
      ;; ;; highlight tabs in all modes
      ;; (add-hook 'font-lock-mode-hook
      ;;           '(lambda ()
      ;;              (font-lock-add-keywords
      ;;               nil
      ;;               '(("\t" 0 'trailing-whitespace prepend)))))

      ;; ;; show zero-width spaces
      ;; (font-lock-add-keywords
      ;;  nil
      ;;  `((,(format "\\(%c\\)" ?\u200b) ; #\ZERO_WIDTH_SPACE
      ;;     (1 (progn (compose-region (match-beginning 1) (match-end 1)
      ;;                               ?\u2b1b ; #\BLACK_LARGE_SQUARE
      ;;                               'decompose-region)
      ;;               nil)))))
#+end_src

Hence, the same observation as yours regarding Gnus. I think I once asked help
on the Emacs and Gnus newsgroups, but the answer is very low there, and I
never got anybody even confirming it...

> Whether this is a problem with the whitespace highlighting codes or
> within gnus, I don't know but I can live without trailing spaces being
> highlighted!

Though, I do have highlight of trailing whitespaces. The first 2 lines must be it.

> Apologies for all the noise and thanks to all that tried to help me!

You're welcome. And... then... what's your impression? ;-)

Best regards,
  Seb

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Re: Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Eric S Fraga]

Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> writes:

> Hi Eric,
>
> Eric S Fraga wrote:

[...]

>> Just to update you all.  I found the problem and it had nothing to do
>> with either gnus or org!  The problem was that I had the following in my
>> font-lock-mode-hook:
>>
>> : (show-ws-highlight-trailing-whitespace)
>>
>> This seemed to wipe out all other font locking information in gnus.
>
> Funny. I have this -- a lot in comments! -- in my .emacs file:
>
> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>       ;; highlight trailing whitespaces in all modes
>       (setq-default show-trailing-whitespace t)
>
>       ;; ;; FIXME When turned on, Gnus becomes black and white only...

Yes, exactly what I had.  Since I had the hook set *before* I started
using gnus again (I did used to use it a couple of years ago), I hadn't
realised that I was getting very little font locking happening!  I'll
try the =setq-default= to see if that works.

[...]

>> Apologies for all the noise and thanks to all that tried to help me!
>
> You're welcome. And... then... what's your impression? ;-)

Love it!  Having emacs-lisp and latex code blocks fontified within an
email message is fantastic.  Thanks!

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Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Sébastien Vauban]

Eric,

Eric S Fraga wrote:
> Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf-geNee64TY+gS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org> writes:
>> Hi Eric (and Dan),
>> "Eric Schulte" wrote:
>>> This is really great.  I finally folded it into my gnus setup, and while
>>> it looks great when it works
>>
>> Great you love it. I'm *VERY* pleased. Moreover, having no reaction on that
>> (and on some other posts[1]), I thought I'd been kill-filed ;-)[2]
>
> Sébastien et al.,
>
> I have also included the code in my gnus configuration but I am not sure
> if it is actually doing anything or not.  Well, actually, I think it
> *is* doing something but I haven't actually seen any fontification etc.
> On the other hand, I am still getting to grips with gnus article display
> functionality so I've probably done something wrong...
>
> If there are any obvious things I should be looking at, please let me know.

Not that I know of.

For the sake of completeness, this is the part I have about my viewing
customizations.

Maybe take this into your .gnus and see what it gives?

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
;;*** 1.2 (info "(emacs-mime)Non-MIME")

      ;; regexp of Emacs sources groups
      (setq mm-uu-emacs-sources-regexp "emacs")

      ;; regexp matching diff groups
      (setq mm-uu-diff-groups-regexp
            "\\(diff\\|commit\\|cvs\\|bug\\|devel\\|reviews\\|mc\\|orgmode\\)")

      ;; regexp matching TeX groups
      (setq mm-uu-tex-groups-regexp ".*") ;; 2010-10-21 was "tex"

      (eval-after-load "mm-uu"
        '(progn
           ;; correctly fontify Org-mode attachments
           (add-to-list 'mailcap-mime-extensions '(".org" . "text/org"))
           (add-to-list 'mm-automatic-display "text/org")

           (add-to-list 'mm-inline-media-tests
                        '("text/org" my/display-org-inline
                          (lambda (el) t)))

           (defun my/display-org-inline (handle)
             (condition-case nil
                 (mm-display-inline-fontify handle 'org-mode)
               (error
                (insert
                 (with-temp-buffer (mm-insert-part handle) (buffer-string))
                 "\n"))))

           ;; update `org-src-lang-modes' to provide some leeway for posters
           (add-to-list 'org-src-lang-modes '("elisp" . emacs-lisp))
           (add-to-list 'org-src-lang-modes '("emacs_lisp" . emacs-lisp))

           ;; fontify code blocks in the text of messages
           (defun my/mm-org-babel-src-extract ()
             (mm-make-handle (mm-uu-copy-to-buffer start-point end-point)
                             '("text/org")))

           (add-to-list 'mm-uu-type-alist
                        '(org-babel-block
                          "^[ \t]*#\\+begin_"
                          "^[ \t]*#\\+end_"
                          my/mm-org-babel-src-extract
                          nil))

           (mm-uu-configure)))


;;*** 1.5 (info "(emacs-mime)Display Customization")

      ;; You can view "text/html" parts of the current article with a WWW
      ;; browser by pressing `K H' (`gnus-article-browse-html-article')

      ;; ;; MIME type that will be displayed externally automatically
      ;; (add-to-list 'mm-automatic-external-display "text/html")

      ;; do not treat inline images as real attachments (display them,
      ;; instead)
      (add-to-list 'mm-attachment-override-types "image/.*")
                                        ; "text/x-vcard"...

      ;; don't render HTML automatically *when plain text alternative is
      ;; available*
      (eval-after-load "mm-decode"
        '(progn
           (add-to-list 'mm-discouraged-alternatives "text/html")
           (add-to-list 'mm-discouraged-alternatives "text/richtext")
           (add-to-list 'mm-discouraged-alternatives "text/enriched")
           (add-to-list 'mm-discouraged-alternatives "multipart/related")))

      ;; all images fit in the buffer
      (setq mm-inline-large-images t)

      ;; ;; always show HTML mails as attachments (even if they can be
      ;; ;; displayed) use `browse-url-browser-function' (firefox) to render
      ;; ;; HTML mails
      ;; (push "text/html" mm-inline-override-types)


      ;; use `w3m' browser (if installed) to render HTML-only mails
      (setq mm-text-html-renderer
            (cond ((executable-find "w3m") 'w3m)
                  (t 'html2text))) ;; Emacs built-in

      (eval-after-load "w3m"
        '(progn
           ;; (setq browse-url-browser-function 'w3m-browse-url)
           (setq mm-inline-text-html-renderer
                 'mm-inline-text-html-render-with-w3m)
           (setq gnus-article-wash-function
                 'gnus-article-wash-html-with-w3m)

           ;; Whenever you try to browse URLs found in articles, Gnus
           ;; (`emacs-w3m', in fact) complains that "This link is considered
           ;; unsafe...". To turn it off, frob the variables
           ;; `w3m-safe-url-regexp' and `mm-w3m-safe-url-regexp'.
           ))

      ;; allow retrieving images in HTML contents with the <img> tags
      (setq mm-inline-text-html-with-images t)

      ;; Remove HTML tags from a buffer
      (defun my/wash-ugly-html ()
        "Remove ugly HTML tags."
        (interactive)
        (toggle-read-only -1)
        (save-excursion
          (goto-char (point-min))
          (while (re-search-forward "<[^#][^<@>]*>" nil t)
            (replace-match "" nil nil))
          (goto-char (point-min))
          (while (re-search-forward "&gt;" nil t)
            (replace-match ">" nil nil))
          (goto-char (point-min))
          (while (re-search-forward "&lt;" nil t)
            (replace-match "<" nil nil))

          ;; FIXME Do not simply remove accents like it does now
          (goto-char (point-min))
          (while (re-search-forward "&[^;]*;" nil t)
            (replace-match "" nil nil))))
#+end_src


>>> I was getting frequent errors throw by the org-mode fontification engine
>>> recursing too deeply. I've changed it to the following which augments what
>>> you sent with some simple error handling.
>>
>> I _never_ observed problems in my case. Anyway, adding such a protection is
>> the code is a great addition. Thanks!
>>
>> I've just singed the FSF papers. Once received by the FSF, I'll
>> propagate your update onto the Gnus newsgroup.
>
> Please post here as well.  I do follow the gnus newsgroup but less
> frequently.

I'll do. For sure!


>> When that will be done, we will have a real Org experience when
>> reading mails with Gnus. I love all this tools.
>
> Yes, there's great potential for the gnus+org combination to give a
> really nice email experience!

I'm impatient to have the above things added...

Best regards,
  Seb

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Re: Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Eric S Fraga]

Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> writes:

> Eric,
>
> Eric S Fraga wrote:

[...]

>> If there are any obvious things I should be looking at, please let me know.
>
> Not that I know of.
>
> For the sake of completeness, this is the part I have about my viewing
> customizations.
>
> Maybe take this into your .gnus and see what it gives?

The only difference in your code (compared with mine) was:

>       (eval-after-load "mm-uu"
>         '(progn

[... identical code follows until ...]

>            (mm-uu-configure)))

I was evaluating everything immediately on loading gnus.  I've put in
all this within the =eval-after-load= and restarted emacs but everything
is the same.  No fontification of src blocks.

thanks again,
eric

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Re: Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Eric S Fraga]

Sébastian & Eric,

Just to follow up on this... (today is my "don't get any real work done
and spend some time on org instead" day, I guess ;-)

I'm starting to understand the mm-uu-* codes.  I've added some
=(message...)= entries into the code you have written for fontifying org
blocks in gnus messages:

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(defun my-display-org-inline (handle)
       (condition-case nil
	   (let (ret)
	     (message "about to invoke mm-display-inline with handle=%s\n" handle)
	     (setq ret (mm-display-inline-fontify handle 'org-mode))
	     (message "mm-display-inline-fontify returned %s\n" ret)
	     ret
	     )
	 (error
	  (progn
	    (message "Got an error in my-display-org-inline\n")
	    (insert (with-temp-buffer (mm-insert-part handle)
				    (buffer-string))
		  "\n")))))
#+end_src

The codes appear to be invoked when required.  E.g. from *Messages*:

: about to invoke mm-display-inline with handle=( *mm-uu*<2> (text/org) nil nil nil nil nil nil)

where the buffer =*mm-uu*<2>= actually has the right contents (an emacs
lisp source block):

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
;;*** 1.2 (info "(emacs-mime)Non-MIME")

      ;; regexp of Emacs sources groups
      (setq mm-uu-emacs-sources-regexp "emacs")
[...]
            (replace-match "" nil nil))))
#+end_src

An error does not appear to be thrown by this function.  However, the
string returned by mm-display-inline-fontify is strange:

: mm-display-inline-fontify returned 
: (lambda nil (let ((inhibit-read-only t)) (delete-region #<marker at 5064 in *Article*> #<marker at 9862 in *Article*>)))

(I've broken the line after "returned".) Could there be some interaction
with, say, gnus article /washing/ treatments?  I don't know what that
function should be returning but I am concerned about the
=delete-region= directive.  Could somebody maybe show me what I should
be getting for the source block to be fontified correctly?

The marker positions appear correct for the source block, by the way.

Again, thanks for your time and effort!

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Re: Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Eric Schulte]

Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> writes:

> Hi Eric (and Dan),
>
> "Eric Schulte" wrote:
>> This is really great.  I finally folded it into my gnus setup, and while
>> it looks great when it works
>
> Great you love it. I'm *VERY* pleased. Moreover, having no reaction on that
> (and on some other posts[1]), I thought I'd been kill-filed ;-)[2]
>
>
>> I was getting frequent errors throw by the org-mode fontification engine
>> recursing too deeply. I've changed it to the following which augments what
>> you sent with some simple error handling.
>
> I _never_ observed problems in my case. Anyway, adding such a protection is
> the code is a great addition. Thanks!
>

Hmm, I wonder what the difference could be in our setups.

>
> I've just singed the FSF papers. Once received by the FSF, I'll
> propagate your update onto the Gnus newsgroup.
>

That sounds great.

>
>
>> ** Org-mode code block fontification
>> Correctly fontify Org-mode attachments
>> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>>     (add-to-list 'mailcap-mime-extensions '(".org" . "text/org"))
>>     (add-to-list 'mm-automatic-display "text/org")
>>     
>>     (add-to-list 'mm-inline-media-tests
>>                  '("text/org" my-display-org-inline
>>                    (lambda (el) t)))
>>     
>>     (defun my-display-org-inline (handle)
>>       (condition-case nil
>>           (mm-display-inline-fontify handle 'org-mode)
>>         (error
>>          (insert (with-temp-buffer (mm-insert-part handle) (buffer-string))
>>                  "\n"))))
>> #+end_src
>>
>> Update =org-src-lang-modes= to provide some leeway for posters
>> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>>   (add-to-list 'org-src-lang-modes
>>                '("elisp" . emacs-lisp))
>>   (add-to-list 'org-src-lang-modes
>>                '("emacs_lisp" . emacs-lisp))
>> #+end_src
>>
>> Fontify code blocks in the text of messages
>> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>>   (defun my-mm-org-babel-src-extract ()
>>     (mm-make-handle (mm-uu-copy-to-buffer start-point end-point) '("text/org")))
>>   
>>   (add-to-list 'mm-uu-type-alist
>>                '(org-src-block
>>                  "^[ \t]*#\\+begin_"
>>                  "^[ \t]*#\\+end_"
>>                  my-mm-org-babel-src-extract
>>                  nil))
>>   
>>   (mm-uu-configure)
>> #+end_src
>
> When I have a bit of time (not directly ;-(), I will try adding missing bits:
>
> - colorization of such =org-verbatim= strings, and
> - of the =:results= "blocks" or lines.

I wonder if the mechanism used by gnus for underlining and italics could
easily be extended for verbatim markers...

>
> A difficulty, maybe, for the latter is the absence of explicit
> marker. Not that true: it's a newline...
>
> When that will be done, we will have a real Org experience when reading mails
> with Gnus. I love all this tools.
>

Agreed, I'm already finding the two to be a very comfortable pair.

>
> Best regards,
>   Seb
>
> Footnotes:
> [1] I will send an updated version on the one about sh session.

Sounds good.  I often miss emails which don't have [Babel] in the
subject string.  Also, I currently have a list of >10 emails in my
lists.babel folder marked for followup that I simply haven't had time to
address.  I know that at least one of those is from you.

Cheers -- Eric

> 
> [2] Just kidding. Using org-footnote BTW.

Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Sébastien Vauban]

Hi Eric,

"Eric Schulte" wrote:
> Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf-geNee64TY+gS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org> writes:
>> "Eric Schulte" wrote:
>>> I was getting frequent errors throw by the org-mode fontification engine
>>> recursing too deeply. I've changed it to the following which augments what
>>> you sent with some simple error handling.
>>
>> I _never_ observed problems in my case. Anyway, adding such a protection is
>> the code is a great addition. Thanks!
>
> Hmm, I wonder what the difference could be in our setups.

If you have any interest in it, I can send you my .gnus file by private
email.[3]


>> When I have a bit of time (not directly ;-(), I will try adding missing
>> bits:
>>
>> - colorization of such =org-verbatim= strings, and
>> - of the =:results= "blocks" or lines.
>
> I wonder if the mechanism used by gnus for underlining and italics could
> easily be extended for verbatim markers...

Right. This could be quite easy, in fact.


>> [1] I will send an updated version on the one about sh session.
>
> Sounds good. I often miss emails which don't have [Babel] in the subject
> string.

And I forgot to put that prefix in front of my posting (from 2 hours ago):

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
  + Sébastien Vauba   19k 2010-11-04 Thu 12:24    o Executing sh code within sessions
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---


> Also, I currently have a list of >10 emails in my lists.babel folder
> marked for followup that I simply haven't had time to address.

I *really* can imagine. *If you don't mind*, I'll try to make a small list of
the couple of requests for which you could give me little pieces of advice in
order for me to go further.


> I know that at least one of those is from you.

Great!

Best regards,
  Seb

Footnotes:
[3] I still have email addresses and the like to clean before being able to really
expose it publicly -- which is my ultimate goal.

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Re: Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Eric Schulte]

Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> writes:

>> Also, I currently have a list of >10 emails in my lists.babel folder
>> marked for followup that I simply haven't had time to address.
>
> I *really* can imagine. *If you don't mind*, I'll try to make a small list of
> the couple of requests for which you could give me little pieces of advice in
> order for me to go further.
>

a small list of quick questions would be great.  It's generally only the
questions that require serious thought and/or development/debugging that
I delay until I have time. -- Eric

Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Jambunathan K]

> I've just singed the FSF papers. 

You are not supposed to do this. How will your changes get in to Emacs
then?

Hint: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/singed

Jambunathan K.

Re: Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Julien Danjou]

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On Sun, Oct 31 2010, Eric Schulte wrote:

> This is really great.  I finally folded it into my gnus setup, and while
> it looks great when it works, I was getting frequent errors throw by the
> org-mode fontification engine recursing too deeply.  I've changed it to
> the following which augments what you sent with some simple error
> handling.

That looks like something I'd like to see added to Gnus.
If one of you can provide a clean patch and have signed FSF papers I'd
be happy to review and merge it.

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Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Sébastien Vauban]

Hi Julien,

Julien Danjou wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 31 2010, Eric Schulte wrote:
>> This is really great. I finally folded it into my gnus setup, and while it
>> looks great when it works, I was getting frequent errors throw by the
>> org-mode fontification engine recursing too deeply. I've changed it to the
>> following which augments what you sent with some simple error handling.
>
> That looks like something I'd like to see added to Gnus.
> If one of you can provide a clean patch and have signed FSF papers I'd
> be happy to review and merge it.

This is undergoing...

I've signed (like 2 weeks ago) the FSF papers, and am still waiting for the
PDF file that proves it. As soon as I get them, I send a proper patch to Larsi
for integration into Gnus. Eventually, I'd even like to add some other stuff
(inlined code with = markers, etc.)...

Best regards,
  Seb

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Re: Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Julien Danjou]

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On Mon, Nov 29 2010, Sébastien Vauban wrote:

> I've signed (like 2 weeks ago) the FSF papers, and am still waiting for the
> PDF file that proves it. As soon as I get them, I send a proper patch to Larsi
> for integration into Gnus. Eventually, I'd even like to add some other stuff
> (inlined code with = markers, etc.)...

Any news on this?

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Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Sébastien Vauban]

Hi Julien,

Julien Danjou wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 29 2010, Sébastien Vauban wrote:
>> I've signed (like 2 weeks ago) the FSF papers, and am still waiting for the
>> PDF file that proves it. As soon as I get them, I send a proper patch to
>> Larsi for integration into Gnus. Eventually, I'd even like to add some
>> other stuff (inlined code with = markers, etc.)...
>
> Any news on this?

I had sent all the needed code to add to Gnus onto the Gnus newsgroup, see
http://osdir.com/ml/info-gnus-english-gnu/2011-01/msg00082.html.

But Gnus asks me to...

#+begin_verse
... post a patch for these changes to the ding-smP1P7uqpqc@public.gmane.org mailing list?
#+end_verse

This will require me to:

- find the right place to put such a code in Gnus code base,
- see how to deal with the =(mm-uu-configure)= function call (integrate
  somehow its effect, instead of calling it),
- etc.

Not that obvious (for me) to make it perfect-looking. Being quite overloaded,
this task is still in my log, but gets delayed from day to day.

Feel free to post anything in that direction, if you're willing to help.

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  Seb

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Re: Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Julien Danjou]

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On Wed, Jan 19 2011, Sébastien Vauban wrote:

> I had sent all the needed code to add to Gnus onto the Gnus newsgroup, see
> http://osdir.com/ml/info-gnus-english-gnu/2011-01/msg00082.html.
>
> But Gnus asks me to...
>
> #+begin_verse
> ... post a patch for these changes to the ding@gnus.org mailing list?
> #+end_verse
>
> This will require me to:
>
> - find the right place to put such a code in Gnus code base,
> - see how to deal with the =(mm-uu-configure)= function call (integrate
>   somehow its effect, instead of calling it),
> - etc.
>
> Not that obvious (for me) to make it perfect-looking. Being quite overloaded,
> this task is still in my log, but gets delayed from day to day.
>
> Feel free to post anything in that direction, if you're willing to help.

Fine, I'll try to do that. I though you got already a patch against
Gnus, but it seems no, so I'll probably make one soon.

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Re: Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Julien Danjou]

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On Thu, Jan 20 2011, Julien Danjou wrote:

> Fine, I'll try to do that. I though you got already a patch against
> Gnus, but it seems no, so I'll probably make one soon.

Pushed in Gnus.

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Re: Enhancing the Org/Gnus experience

[Sébastien Vauban]

Hi Julien,

Julien Danjou wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 20 2011, Julien Danjou wrote:
>
>> Fine, I'll try to do that. I though you got already a patch against
>> Gnus, but it seems no, so I'll probably make one soon.
>
> Pushed in Gnus.

Waaow; that's fast. Good move!  Thanks for pushing this.

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