* clocking in and out in remember buffers - seems to be buggy @ 2008-01-22 21:04 Rainer Stengele 2008-01-22 21:42 ` Austin Frank 2008-01-24 8:33 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Rainer Stengele @ 2008-01-22 21:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode I use to clock in a task when beginning to write in a remember buffer. For example when receive a phone call from a customer I pop up a remember template and the first thing I do is to start the clock. - it would be very nice to have a way to do this automatically, maybe a certain variable ... After writing down notes and doing some stuff, documenting further in the clocked in remember buffer, I finally want to save and close the remember template. After for example "C-u C-c C-c" I am asked if I want to clock out... Answering "yes" I get "Clock start time is gone" and I am back in the remember buffer. Answering "no" the template is saved, the emacs status bar shows the clock is running but trying to jump to the active clock with org-goto-clocked-in-entry I get "No active clock". That seems to be a bug or else I assume clocking in while being in a remember buffer was never intended to be a feature? Is there someone out there using the clock in the remember buffer? By the way, the remember templates are an awesome mechanism and I try to create more and more "rich" templates for different reoccuring tasks - having then mostly only to choose between the predefined alternatives! rainer ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: clocking in and out in remember buffers - seems to be buggy 2008-01-22 21:04 clocking in and out in remember buffers - seems to be buggy Rainer Stengele @ 2008-01-22 21:42 ` Austin Frank 2008-01-24 8:33 ` Carsten Dominik 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Austin Frank @ 2008-01-22 21:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1396 bytes --] On Tue, Jan 22 2008, Rainer Stengele wrote: > I use to clock in a task when beginning to write in a remember buffer. > For example when receive a phone call from a customer I pop up a > remember template and the first thing I do is to start the clock. > > After writing down notes and doing some stuff, documenting further in > the clocked in remember buffer, I finally want to save and close the > remember template. Here's what I would tried, but none of them worked --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ;; try to use advice to start and stop the clock (defadvice remember (after clock-in-on-remember-open) "Call org-clock-in after opening a remember buffer." ;; also tried adding advice to org-remember and ;; org-remember-apply-template, neither worked (org-clock-in)) (defadvice remember-finalize (before clock-out-on-remember-close) "Call org-clock-out before closing a remember buffer." (org-clock-out)) ;; try to add clock starting to the remember mode hook (add-hook 'remember-mode-hook 'org-clock-in) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Maybe one of these will give you an idea that will get you started in the right direction. Sorry I couldn't actually figure it out. /au -- Austin Frank http://aufrank.net GPG Public Key (D7398C2F): http://aufrank.net/personal.asc [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 185 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 204 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: clocking in and out in remember buffers - seems to be buggy 2008-01-22 21:04 clocking in and out in remember buffers - seems to be buggy Rainer Stengele 2008-01-22 21:42 ` Austin Frank @ 2008-01-24 8:33 ` Carsten Dominik 2008-01-24 15:14 ` Rainer Stengele 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-01-24 8:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rainer Stengele; +Cc: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1488 bytes --] On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:04 PM, Rainer Stengele wrote: > I use to clock in a task when beginning to write in a remember buffer. > For example when receive a phone call from a customer I pop up a > remember template and the first thing I do is to start the clock. > > - it would be very nice to have a way to do this automatically, > maybe a certain variable ... You could use remember-mode-hook to run org-clock-in, maybe depending on some string that you find and remove in the buffer. The string could be part of the template, for example CLOCK-IN: (add-hook 'remember-mode-hook 'my-start-clock-if-needed) (defun my-start-clock-if-needed () (save-excursion (goto-char (point-min)) (when (re-search-forward " *CLOCK-IN *" nil t) (replace-match "") (org-clock-in)))) > After writing down notes and doing some stuff, documenting further > in the clocked in remember buffer, I finally want to save and close > the remember template. > After for example "C-u C-c C-c" I am asked if I want to clock out... The query happens when the buffer gets killed - by then it is too late, the content of the buffer has already been filed away. I will (in 5.20) have a check if the clock is running in the remember buffer before allowing you it file it. This will not be an automatic clock-out because that would lead to trouble with possibly adding a note about clocking out. But it will stop you from exiting without clocking out first. - Carsten [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2373 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 204 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: clocking in and out in remember buffers - seems to be buggy 2008-01-24 8:33 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2008-01-24 15:14 ` Rainer Stengele 2008-01-24 15:26 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Rainer Stengele @ 2008-01-24 15:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Carsten Dominik schrieb: > > On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:04 PM, Rainer Stengele wrote: > >> I use to clock in a task when beginning to write in a remember buffer. >> For example when receive a phone call from a customer I pop up a >> remember template and the first thing I do is to start the clock. >> >> - it would be very nice to have a way to do this automatically, maybe >> a certain variable ... > > You could use remember-mode-hook to run org-clock-in, maybe depending > on some string that you find and remove in the buffer. The string could > be part of the template, for example CLOCK-IN: > > (add-hook 'remember-mode-hook 'my-start-clock-if-needed) > (defun my-start-clock-if-needed () > (save-excursion > (goto-char (point-min)) > (when (re-search-forward " *CLOCK-IN *" nil t) > (replace-match "") > (org-clock-in)))) > >> After writing down notes and doing some stuff, documenting further in >> the clocked in remember buffer, I finally want to save and close the >> remember template. >> After for example "C-u C-c C-c" I am asked if I want to clock out... > > The query happens when the buffer gets killed - by then it is too late, the > content of the buffer has already been filed away. > > I will (in 5.20) have a check if the clock is running in the remember buffer > before allowing you it file it. This will not be an automatic clock-out > because that would lead to trouble with possibly adding a note about > clocking out. But it will stop you from exiting without clocking out first. > > - Carsten > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode Hello Carsten, thank's a lot! Good idea! I tried it, using different regexes. It does not work when starting the remember buffer. Being inside the remember buffer and calling the function it does work! How can I track that down? Btw, I cannot see a modeline telling me that I am in "remember mode" when I am in the Remember buffer. Also "C-h m" doesn't show me anything about remember? rainer ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: clocking in and out in remember buffers - seems to be buggy 2008-01-24 15:14 ` Rainer Stengele @ 2008-01-24 15:26 ` Carsten Dominik 2008-01-24 15:34 ` Rainer Stengele 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-01-24 15:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rainer Stengele; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On Jan 24, 2008, at 4:14 PM, Rainer Stengele wrote: > Carsten Dominik schrieb: >> >> On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:04 PM, Rainer Stengele wrote: >> >>> I use to clock in a task when beginning to write in a remember >>> buffer. >>> For example when receive a phone call from a customer I pop up a >>> remember template and the first thing I do is to start the clock. >>> >>> - it would be very nice to have a way to do this automatically, >>> maybe >>> a certain variable ... >> >> You could use remember-mode-hook to run org-clock-in, maybe depending >> on some string that you find and remove in the buffer. The string >> could >> be part of the template, for example CLOCK-IN: >> >> (add-hook 'remember-mode-hook 'my-start-clock-if-needed) >> (defun my-start-clock-if-needed () >> (save-excursion >> (goto-char (point-min)) >> (when (re-search-forward " *CLOCK-IN *" nil t) >> (replace-match "") >> (org-clock-in)))) >> >>> After writing down notes and doing some stuff, documenting further >>> in >>> the clocked in remember buffer, I finally want to save and close the >>> remember template. >>> After for example "C-u C-c C-c" I am asked if I want to clock out... >> >> The query happens when the buffer gets killed - by then it is too >> late, the >> content of the buffer has already been filed away. >> >> I will (in 5.20) have a check if the clock is running in the >> remember buffer >> before allowing you it file it. This will not be an automatic >> clock-out >> because that would lead to trouble with possibly adding a note about >> clocking out. But it will stop you from exiting without clocking >> out first. >> >> - Carsten >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > Hello Carsten, > > thank's a lot! Good idea! > > I tried it, using different regexes. It does not work when starting > the remember buffer. > Being inside the remember buffer and calling the function it does > work! > How can I track that down? > Btw, I cannot see a modeline telling me that I am in "remember mode" > when I am in the Remember buffer. > Also "C-h m" doesn't show me anything about remember? Yes, when you use Org-mode together with remember, the buffer is actually in Org-mode, to make it easier to use org-mode specific stuff. However, remember first puts the buffer into remember-mode, therefore the hook is run. I am not sure why things don't work. Take a look at the variable `remember-mode-hook'. What is its value? - Carsten > > > rainer > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: clocking in and out in remember buffers - seems to be buggy 2008-01-24 15:26 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2008-01-24 15:34 ` Rainer Stengele 2008-01-24 15:38 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Rainer Stengele @ 2008-01-24 15:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Carsten Dominik schrieb: > > On Jan 24, 2008, at 4:14 PM, Rainer Stengele wrote: > >> Carsten Dominik schrieb: >>> >>> On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:04 PM, Rainer Stengele wrote: >>> >>>> I use to clock in a task when beginning to write in a remember buffer. >>>> For example when receive a phone call from a customer I pop up a >>>> remember template and the first thing I do is to start the clock. >>>> >>>> - it would be very nice to have a way to do this automatically, maybe >>>> a certain variable ... >>> >>> You could use remember-mode-hook to run org-clock-in, maybe depending >>> on some string that you find and remove in the buffer. The string could >>> be part of the template, for example CLOCK-IN: >>> >>> (add-hook 'remember-mode-hook 'my-start-clock-if-needed) >>> (defun my-start-clock-if-needed () >>> (save-excursion >>> (goto-char (point-min)) >>> (when (re-search-forward " *CLOCK-IN *" nil t) >>> (replace-match "") >>> (org-clock-in)))) >>> >>>> After writing down notes and doing some stuff, documenting further in >>>> the clocked in remember buffer, I finally want to save and close the >>>> remember template. >>>> After for example "C-u C-c C-c" I am asked if I want to clock out... >>> >>> The query happens when the buffer gets killed - by then it is too >>> late, the >>> content of the buffer has already been filed away. >>> >>> I will (in 5.20) have a check if the clock is running in the remember >>> buffer >>> before allowing you it file it. This will not be an automatic clock-out >>> because that would lead to trouble with possibly adding a note about >>> clocking out. But it will stop you from exiting without clocking out >>> first. >>> >>> - Carsten >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> >> Hello Carsten, >> >> thank's a lot! Good idea! >> >> I tried it, using different regexes. It does not work when starting >> the remember buffer. >> Being inside the remember buffer and calling the function it does work! >> How can I track that down? >> Btw, I cannot see a modeline telling me that I am in "remember mode" >> when I am in the Remember buffer. >> Also "C-h m" doesn't show me anything about remember? > > Yes, when you use Org-mode together with remember, the > buffer is actually in Org-mode, to make it easier > to use org-mode specific stuff. However, remember first puts > the buffer into remember-mode, therefore the hook is run. > > I am not sure why things don't work. Take a look at the variable > `remember-mode-hook'. What is its value? > > - Carsten > >> looks ok, includes the new function: (my-start-clock-if-needed org-remember-apply-template) is the template already "in" at that moment? rainer ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: clocking in and out in remember buffers - seems to be buggy 2008-01-24 15:34 ` Rainer Stengele @ 2008-01-24 15:38 ` Carsten Dominik 2008-01-25 12:57 ` Rainer Stengele 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-01-24 15:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rainer Stengele; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On Jan 24, 2008, at 4:34 PM, Rainer Stengele wrote: >>>> >> I am not sure why things don't work. Take a look at the variable >> `remember-mode-hook'. What is its value? >> >> - Carsten >> >>> > > looks ok, includes the new function: > > (my-start-clock-if-needed org-remember-apply-template) > > is the template already "in" at that moment? No, it is not OK, the sequence is wrong. Try an 'append argument when adding the my-start-clock-if-needed function, and make sure this line is called after the template functin has been added to the hook. The restart emacs and double-check, it has to be: (org-remember-apply-template my-start-clock-if-needed) - Carsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: clocking in and out in remember buffers - seems to be buggy 2008-01-24 15:38 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2008-01-25 12:57 ` Rainer Stengele 2008-01-25 13:12 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Rainer Stengele @ 2008-01-25 12:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Carsten Dominik schrieb: > > On Jan 24, 2008, at 4:34 PM, Rainer Stengele wrote: >>>>> >>> I am not sure why things don't work. Take a look at the variable >>> `remember-mode-hook'. What is its value? >>> >>> - Carsten >>> >>>> >> >> looks ok, includes the new function: >> >> (my-start-clock-if-needed org-remember-apply-template) >> >> is the template already "in" at that moment? > > > No, it is not OK, the sequence is wrong. Try an 'append argument when > adding the > my-start-clock-if-needed function, and make sure this line is called after > the template functin has been added to the hook. The restart emacs and > double-check, it has to be: > > (org-remember-apply-template my-start-clock-if-needed) > > - Carsten > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > Excellent, the clock is now started whenever I have a "CLOCK-IN" string in the template! Leaving with C-u C-c C-c it I am asked if I want clock out. Answering "y" it says: "Clock start time is gone" and the remeber buffer stays open. - Answering "n" the buffer is saved. Trying to find the clocked in item by calling org-gotro-clocked-in-entry results in: "No active clock" Both cases do not make sense for me. Anyone has a comment/help? - Rainer ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: clocking in and out in remember buffers - seems to be buggy 2008-01-25 12:57 ` Rainer Stengele @ 2008-01-25 13:12 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-01-25 13:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rainer Stengele; +Cc: emacs-orgmode This will be fixed in 5.20, by forcing you to explicitly clock out before storing the note. For now, just do it willingly. - Carsten On Jan 25, 2008, at 1:57 PM, Rainer Stengele wrote: > Carsten Dominik schrieb: >> >> On Jan 24, 2008, at 4:34 PM, Rainer Stengele wrote: >>>>>> >>>> I am not sure why things don't work. Take a look at the variable >>>> `remember-mode-hook'. What is its value? >>>> >>>> - Carsten >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> looks ok, includes the new function: >>> >>> (my-start-clock-if-needed org-remember-apply-template) >>> >>> is the template already "in" at that moment? >> >> >> No, it is not OK, the sequence is wrong. Try an 'append argument >> when >> adding the >> my-start-clock-if-needed function, and make sure this line is >> called after >> the template functin has been added to the hook. The restart emacs >> and >> double-check, it has to be: >> >> (org-remember-apply-template my-start-clock-if-needed) >> >> - Carsten >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> > > Excellent, the clock is now started whenever I have a "CLOCK-IN" > string in the template! > Leaving with C-u C-c C-c it I am asked if I want clock out. > > > Answering "y" it says: > > "Clock start time is gone" > > and the remeber buffer stays open. > > - Answering "n" the buffer is saved. Trying to find the clocked in > item by calling > org-gotro-clocked-in-entry > results in: > > "No active clock" > > > Both cases do not make sense for me. > Anyone has a comment/help? > > - Rainer ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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