protecting ascii art

protecting ascii art

[Scott Otterson]

Is there a way to protect text regions from org mode parsing?  When I 
paste the following under an org mode headline:

                   +-------+  +--------------> future x
           +----+  |predict|  |   +-------+
      x -->|TDL +--|   x   |--+-->|       |
           +----+  +-------+      |predict|--> future y
                                  |       |
           +----+                 |   y   |
      y -->|TDL +---------------->|       |
           +----+                 +-------+

org mode scrambles it.  If I precede each line with a ':', org mode 
still scrambles it, but less so.

Thanks,

Scott

Re: protecting ascii art

[Eddward DeVilla]

I think that's a bug.  prefixing the lines with : ought to do it.  It
prevents the | character from becoming tables, but it's not preventing
the + from creating strike throughs.  I would think that #+BEGIN_QUOTE
ought to work too, but it doesn't.  That maybe for export only.

Edd

On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Scott Otterson <scotto@u.washington.edu> wrote:
> Is there a way to protect text regions from org mode parsing?  When I paste
> the following under an org mode headline:
>
>                  +-------+  +--------------> future x
>          +----+  |predict|  |   +-------+
>     x -->|TDL +--|   x   |--+-->|       |
>          +----+  +-------+      |predict|--> future y
>                                 |       |
>          +----+                 |   y   |
>     y -->|TDL +---------------->|       |
>          +----+                 +-------+
>
> org mode scrambles it.  If I precede each line with a ':', org mode still
> scrambles it, but less so.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
>
>
>
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Re: protecting ascii art

[Scott Otterson]

Yeah, that's what I thought about #+BEGIN_QUOTE too.

By the way, it would be lovely if it were possible to use emacs's 
built-in artist-mode:

    http://www.cinsk.org/emacs/emacs-artist.html

to draw diagrams inside of an org mode buffer.  Right now, hitting M-x 
artist-mode while already in org-mode clobbers the org file. 

But with some code twizzling, maybe it would be possible to use 
artist-mode to interactively draw ascii graphics, just like we can now 
create ascii tables.  That would make org-mode a complete text-based 
system -- a plain text paradise.

Scott

On 8/15/2008 6:34 PM, Eddward DeVilla wrote:
> I think that's a bug.  prefixing the lines with : ought to do it.  It
> prevents the | character from becoming tables, but it's not preventing
> the + from creating strike throughs.  I would think that #+BEGIN_QUOTE
> ought to work too, but it doesn't.  That maybe for export only.
>
> Edd
>   

artist/mouse - was: protecting ascii art

[Sebastian Rose]

Hi,

I think what we need for this a possibility to turn of org-mouse
module. Which I would like anyway, since it often get's in my way.

Maybe the mouse sensitivity could be on leading stars and links
only?



E.g. cut text with right mouse button...


In org, I now use 'M-x edit-picture' instead, which is great too.


Scott Otterson wrote:
> By the way, it would be lovely if it were possible to use emacs's 
> built-in artist-mode:
> 
>    http://www.cinsk.org/emacs/emacs-artist.html
> 
> to draw diagrams inside of an org mode buffer.  Right now, hitting M-x 
> artist-mode while already in org-mode clobbers the org file.
> But with some code twizzling, maybe it would be possible to use 
> artist-mode to interactively draw ascii graphics, just like we can now 
> create ascii tables.  That would make org-mode a complete text-based 
> system -- a plain text paradise.

Re: protecting ascii art

[William Henney]

Hi Scott

On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Scott Otterson
<scotto@u.washington.edu> wrote:
> By the way, it would be lovely if it were possible to use emacs's built-in
> artist-mode:
>
>   http://www.cinsk.org/emacs/emacs-artist.html
>
> to draw diagrams inside of an org mode buffer.  Right now, hitting M-x
> artist-mode while already in org-mode clobbers the org file.

What seems to work is to first set aside some lines for your artistic
creation, select them, and do "C-x n n" (narrow-to-region) before
turning on artist-mode. Then, when you have finished, turn off
artist-mode and do "C-x n w" (widen).

This is a bit of a pain to remember the steps, but it does protect the
org file from getting clobbered.

Cheers

Will

-- 

 Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica,
 Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia

Re: protecting ascii art

[Scott Otterson]

Thanks!  Yes, this does work, and I'll definitely use it.

I wonder how hard it would be to automate those steps.

Scott

On 8/25/2008 5:26 PM, William Henney wrote:
> Hi Scott
> <...>
> What seems to work is to first set aside some lines for your artistic
> creation, select them, and do "C-x n n" (narrow-to-region) before
> turning on artist-mode. Then, when you have finished, turn off
> artist-mode and do "C-x n w" (widen).
>
> This is a bit of a pain to remember the steps, but it does protect the
> org file from getting clobbered.
>
> Cheers
>
> Will
>
>   

Re: protecting ascii art

[Carsten Dominik]

Actually, in my GNU Emacs, prefixing these lines with ":" makes them  
look fine.  You are using XEmacs, right?

- Carsten

On Aug 15, 2008, at 11:54 PM, Scott Otterson wrote:

> Is there a way to protect text regions from org mode parsing?  When  
> I paste the following under an org mode headline:
>
>                  +-------+  +--------------> future x
>          +----+  |predict|  |   +-------+
>     x -->|TDL +--|   x   |--+-->|       |
>          +----+  +-------+      |predict|--> future y
>                                 |       |
>          +----+                 |   y   |
>     y -->|TDL +---------------->|       |
>          +----+                 +-------+
>
> org mode scrambles it.  If I precede each line with a ':', org mode  
> still scrambles it, but less so.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
>
>
>
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Re: protecting ascii art

[Carsten Dominik]

My mistake, this is indeed also broken under GNU Emacs.  I had turned  
off strikethrough emphasis, that is why it looked OK for me.

- Carsten

On Sep 5, 2008, at 9:05 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:

> Actually, in my GNU Emacs, prefixing these lines with ":" makes them  
> look fine.  You are using XEmacs, right?
>
> - Carsten
>
> On Aug 15, 2008, at 11:54 PM, Scott Otterson wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to protect text regions from org mode parsing?  When  
>> I paste the following under an org mode headline:
>>
>>                 +-------+  +--------------> future x
>>         +----+  |predict|  |   +-------+
>>    x -->|TDL +--|   x   |--+-->|       |
>>         +----+  +-------+      |predict|--> future y
>>                                |       |
>>         +----+                 |   y   |
>>    y -->|TDL +---------------->|       |
>>         +----+                 +-------+
>>
>> org mode scrambles it.  If I precede each line with a ':', org mode  
>> still scrambles it, but less so.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
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>
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Re: protecting ascii art

[Carsten Dominik]

On Aug 26, 2008, at 2:26 AM, William Henney wrote:

> Hi Scott
>
> On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Scott Otterson
> <scotto@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>> By the way, it would be lovely if it were possible to use emacs's  
>> built-in
>> artist-mode:
>>
>>  http://www.cinsk.org/emacs/emacs-artist.html
>>
>> to draw diagrams inside of an org mode buffer.  Right now, hitting  
>> M-x
>> artist-mode while already in org-mode clobbers the org file.
>
> What seems to work is to first set aside some lines for your artistic
> creation, select them, and do "C-x n n" (narrow-to-region) before
> turning on artist-mode. Then, when you have finished, turn off
> artist-mode and do "C-x n w" (widen).
>
> This is a bit of a pain to remember the steps, but it does protect the
> org file from getting clobbered.

This is a very good idea that fits right into the functionality of the
"C-c '" command, so I have added it there.  If you now press "C-c '" in
a region of lines starting with a colon, you get to edit this region in
artist-mode.  Also, if you press these keys in an empty line, a new
drawing is created.

I always wanted to have drawing in some way and even did some  
experiments
years ago - but I did not know of artist-mode.

Thanks for the ideas!

- Carsten

P.S. I believe that also the strikethrough problem is fixed by now.

>
>
> Cheers
>
> Will
>
> -- 
>
> Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica,
> Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia
>
>
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Re: protecting ascii art

[Scott Otterson]

This great, but maybe it's not in the latest org version?  In 6.06b, 
when I type C-c ', I get sent to ffap.  This matches the comments in 
org-edit-special, which indicate that this is what will happen. 

Anyway, thanks for implementing this.

Scott

On 9/5/2008 2:58 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> ...
> This is a very good idea that fits right into the functionality of the
> "C-c '" command, so I have added it there.  If you now press "C-c '" in
> a region of lines starting with a colon, you get to edit this region in
> artist-mode.  Also, if you press these keys in an empty line, a new
> drawing is created.
>
> I always wanted to have drawing in some way and even did some experiments
> years ago - but I did not know of artist-mode.
>
> Thanks for the ideas!
>
> - Carsten
>
> P.S. I believe that also the strikethrough problem is fixed by now.
>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Will
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica,
>> Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia
>>
>>
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>

Re: protecting ascii art

[Carsten Dominik]

On Sep 7, 2008, at 4:40 AM, Scott Otterson wrote:

> This great, but maybe it's not in the latest org version?  In 6.06b,  
> when I type C-c ', I get sent to ffap.  This matches the comments in  
> org-edit-special, which indicate that this is what will happen.

This feature will be in 6.07, but it is now available in the git  
repository.

- Carsten

>
> Anyway, thanks for implementing this.
>
> Scott
>
> On 9/5/2008 2:58 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> ...
>> This is a very good idea that fits right into the functionality of  
>> the
>> "C-c '" command, so I have added it there.  If you now press "C-c  
>> '" in
>> a region of lines starting with a colon, you get to edit this  
>> region in
>> artist-mode.  Also, if you press these keys in an empty line, a new
>> drawing is created.
>>
>> I always wanted to have drawing in some way and even did some  
>> experiments
>> years ago - but I did not know of artist-mode.
>>
>> Thanks for the ideas!
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>> P.S. I believe that also the strikethrough problem is fixed by now.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Will
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica,
>>> Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia
>>>
>>>
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>>