New logo

New logo

[Bastien]

Hi all,

I've been trying hard to enhance the logo for the release of 8.0
and I gather that my attempts failed so far.  So instead of trying
to change the colors and the shape, I suddenly realized we could
simply find... a *better* animal.

What is the most appropriate symbol of why we all use Org-mode?

Yes, procrastination.  Fiddling with Emacs instead of achieving
the work we need to achieve.  Trying to convince ourselves that
this tiny Org feature will make us more proficient at our jobs,
instead of simply working.

I asked many Org friends during the last few weeks, and we all
agreed that an ostrich might be a good candidate.

So here it is -- I just updated the website accordingly:

  http://orgmode.org

I did spent a lot of time and energy on deciding this, and this
is not only me, but also many Org users I've asked, so please do
not discuss this change.

Hope you'll get used to it!

Best,

-- 
 Bastien

Re: New logo

[Suvayu Ali]

On Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 07:20:13PM +0200, Bastien wrote:
> 
> I asked many Org friends during the last few weeks, and we all
> agreed that an ostrich might be a good candidate.
> 
> So here it is -- I just updated the website accordingly:
> 
>   http://orgmode.org
> 
> I did spent a lot of time and energy on deciding this, and this
> is not only me, but also many Org users I've asked, so please do
> not discuss this change.

When I read the email, I thought "No! I want the unicorn!".  But then I
saw the ostrich, and now I don't know anymore.  I think the ostrich is
absolutely hilarious.

-- 
Suvayu

Open source is the future. It sets us free.

Re: New logo

[Thorsten Jolitz]

Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:

Amazing design skills ;)
and perfect timing for the announcement ...

-- 
cheers,
Thorsten

Re: New logo

[Brian van den Broek]

On 1 April 2013 13:20, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've been trying hard to enhance the logo for the release of 8.0
> and I gather that my attempts failed so far.  So instead of trying
> to change the colors and the shape, I suddenly realized we could
> simply find... a *better* animal.
>
> What is the most appropriate symbol of why we all use Org-mode?
>
> Yes, procrastination.  Fiddling with Emacs instead of achieving
> the work we need to achieve.  Trying to convince ourselves that
> this tiny Org feature will make us more proficient at our jobs,
> instead of simply working.
>
> I asked many Org friends during the last few weeks, and we all
> agreed that an ostrich might be a good candidate.
>
> So here it is -- I just updated the website accordingly:
>
>   http://orgmode.org
>
> I did spent a lot of time and energy on deciding this, and this
> is not only me, but also many Org users I've asked, so please do
> not discuss this change.
>
> Hope you'll get used to it!
>
> Best,
>
> --
>  Bastien


Oh, +1. No, strike that. +4

Best,

Brian vdB

Re: New logo

[Evan Misshula]

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> I did spent a lot of time and energy on deciding this, and this
> is not only me, but also many Org users I've asked, so please do
> not discuss this change.

Seems like an April fools joke.  Of course we will discuss. :-P


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Brian van den Broek <
brian.van.den.broek@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 1 April 2013 13:20, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've been trying hard to enhance the logo for the release of 8.0
> > and I gather that my attempts failed so far.  So instead of trying
> > to change the colors and the shape, I suddenly realized we could
> > simply find... a *better* animal.
> >
> > What is the most appropriate symbol of why we all use Org-mode?
> >
> > Yes, procrastination.  Fiddling with Emacs instead of achieving
> > the work we need to achieve.  Trying to convince ourselves that
> > this tiny Org feature will make us more proficient at our jobs,
> > instead of simply working.
> >
> > I asked many Org friends during the last few weeks, and we all
> > agreed that an ostrich might be a good candidate.
> >
> > So here it is -- I just updated the website accordingly:
> >
> >   http://orgmode.org
> >
> > I did spent a lot of time and energy on deciding this, and this
> > is not only me, but also many Org users I've asked, so please do
> > not discuss this change.
> >
> > Hope you'll get used to it!
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > --
> >  Bastien
>
>
> Oh, +1. No, strike that. +4
>
> Best,
>
> Brian vdB
>
>


-- 
Evan Misshula
Doctoral Student (Criminal Justice)
CUNY John Jay
"Let us reform our schools, and we shall find little reform needed in our
prisons."
       John Ruskin, Unto This Last, essay 2 (1862)
       English critic, essayist, & reformer (1819 - 1900)

"Instruction does much, but encouragement does everything." Johann Wolfgang
Von Goethe
www.snrg-nyc.org

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Re: New logo

[Brian van den Broek]

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On 1 Apr 2013 14:23, "Evan Misshula" <evanmisshula@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I did spent a lot of time and energy on deciding this, and this
> > is not only me, but also many Org users I've asked, so please do
> > not discuss this change.
>
> Seems like an April fools joke.  Of course we will discuss. :-P
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Brian van den Broek <
brian.van.den.broek@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

>> Oh, +1. No, strike that. +4
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Brian vdB

That's not in keeping with the spirit of the thing. Knowing allusions (as
above) are fine, but overtly pointing it? That's not cricket!

Brian vdB

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ostrich mascott but with reading glasses (was: Re: New logo)

[Gregor Zattler]

Hi Bastien,
* Bastien <bzg@altern.org> [01. Apr. 2013]:

[... ostrich as the new org-mode logo ...]
 
> I did spent a lot of time and energy on deciding this, and this
> is not only me, but also many Org users I've asked, so please do
> not discuss this change.

I'm fine with Bastiens choice of an ostrich as org-mode `logo' --
in hindsight it seems really obvious.  Most probably it was the
unicorn which hindered org-modes mass acceptance.

But I think it's not o.k. to force a `logo' onto the community:

First we shouldn't use the word `logo' with it's evil
connotations of commerce.  Let us use the word `mascot' instead,
since it's a living being.

Second I think to really demonstrate org-modes procrastinating
power the ostrich should wear reading glasses and read the
org-mode manual.  This would have the added benefit that we could
dismiss noobs and newbies with an "do as the ostrich does!"
instead of this rather vulgar `RTFM' thing.

The more conservative org-mode users may argue -- and in sharp
contrast to our benevolent dictator Bastien I encourage everyone
to argue over everything -- that ostrichs typically are portrayed
with their head in the sand.  Being in harmonic mode at the
moment I would propose as a compromise that the ostrich wears
reading glasses while stuck with the head in the sand.

Ciao, Gregor
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Re: New logo

[Evan Misshula]

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Apologies for any breech of protocol.  EM


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Brian van den Broek <
brian.van.den.broek@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On 1 Apr 2013 14:23, "Evan Misshula" <evanmisshula@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I did spent a lot of time and energy on deciding this, and this
> > > is not only me, but also many Org users I've asked, so please do
> > > not discuss this change.
> >
> > Seems like an April fools joke.  Of course we will discuss. :-P
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Brian van den Broek <
> brian.van.den.broek@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >> Oh, +1. No, strike that. +4
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Brian vdB
>
> That's not in keeping with the spirit of the thing. Knowing allusions (as
> above) are fine, but overtly pointing it? That's not cricket!
>
> Brian vdB
>



-- 
Evan Misshula
Doctoral Student (Criminal Justice)
CUNY John Jay
"Let us reform our schools, and we shall find little reform needed in our
prisons."
       John Ruskin, Unto This Last, essay 2 (1862)
       English critic, essayist, & reformer (1819 - 1900)

"Instruction does much, but encouragement does everything." Johann Wolfgang
Von Goethe
www.snrg-nyc.org

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Re: New logo

[Allen S. Rout]

On 04/01/2013 02:28 PM, Brian van den Broek wrote:

> 
> That's not in keeping with the spirit of the thing. Knowing allusions (as
> above) are fine, but overtly pointing it? That's not cricket!


Mmm.  Maybe a _REALLY_ big turkey on a platter?

- Allen S. Rout

Re: New logo

[Allen S. Rout]

On 04/01/2013 02:35 PM, Evan Misshula wrote:
> Apologies for any breech of protocol.  EM
> 

Ew.

- Allen S. Rout

Re: New logo

[Christian Moe]

+1! :)

It's a great logo for a great PTO[1] tool.

Yours,
Christian

[1] PTO = Putting Things Off

Bastien writes:

> Hi all,
>
> I've been trying hard to enhance the logo for the release of 8.0
> and I gather that my attempts failed so far.  So instead of trying
> to change the colors and the shape, I suddenly realized we could
> simply find... a *better* animal.
>
> What is the most appropriate symbol of why we all use Org-mode?
>
> Yes, procrastination.  Fiddling with Emacs instead of achieving
> the work we need to achieve.  Trying to convince ourselves that
> this tiny Org feature will make us more proficient at our jobs,
> instead of simply working.
>
> I asked many Org friends during the last few weeks, and we all
> agreed that an ostrich might be a good candidate.
>
> So here it is -- I just updated the website accordingly:
>
>   http://orgmode.org
>
> I did spent a lot of time and energy on deciding this, and this
> is not only me, but also many Org users I've asked, so please do
> not discuss this change.
>
> Hope you'll get used to it!
>
> Best,

Re: ostrich mascott but with reading glasses (was: Re: New logo)

[Brian van den Broek]

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On 1 Apr 2013 14:36, "Gregor Zattler" <telegraph@gmx.net> wrote:

<snip>

> The more conservative org-mode users may argue -- and in sharp
> contrast to our benevolent dictator Bastien I encourage everyone
> to argue over everything -- that ostrichs typically are portrayed
> with their head in the sand.  Being in harmonic mode at the
> moment I would propose as a compromise that the ostrich wears
> reading glasses while stuck with the head in the sand.

It is a non-problem. After all, glass is made of sand!

Best,

Brian vdB

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Re: New logo

[Carsten Dominik]

On 1.4.2013, at 19:20, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I've been trying hard to enhance the logo for the release of 8.0
> and I gather that my attempts failed so far.  So instead of trying
> to change the colors and the shape, I suddenly realized we could
> simply find... a *better* animal.
> 
> What is the most appropriate symbol of why we all use Org-mode?
> 
> Yes, procrastination.  Fiddling with Emacs instead of achieving
> the work we need to achieve.  Trying to convince ourselves that
> this tiny Org feature will make us more proficient at our jobs,
> instead of simply working.
> 
> I asked many Org friends during the last few weeks, and we all
> agreed that an ostrich might be a good candidate.
> 
> So here it is -- I just updated the website accordingly:
> 
>  http://orgmode.org
> 
> I did spent a lot of time and energy on deciding this, and this
> is not only me, but also many Org users I've asked, so please do
> not discuss this change.
> 
> Hope you'll get used to it!


Wow, I've got to hand it to you.  After the recent color experiments - this one does not make me physically sick, and it is in fact a fine depiction of how I feel way too often.  Seems perfectly suited for an animated gif logo, too!

Great work!

- Carsten

Re: New logo

[Michael Gauland]

Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org> writes:
> 
> I asked many Org friends during the last few weeks, and we all
> agreed that an ostrich might be a good candidate.

I'm afraid this logo sends the wrong message. It should be showing the
non-org-users of the world with their heads in the sand.

Or maybe the logo should include the subterranean wonders of org the ostrich
(orgstrich?) is marveling at?

--Mike

Re: New logo

[Rasmus]

Michael Gauland <mikelygee@no8wireless.co.nz> writes:

> Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org> writes:
>> 
>> I asked many Org friends during the last few weeks, and we all
>> agreed that an ostrich might be a good candidate.

I have long been scared of that rather foul looking unicorn.  Great
job!  Next step is replacing the Gnu is Emacs Core!

–Rasmus

-- 
Hooray!

Re: New logo

[Anthony Lander]

On 13-Apr-1, at 1:20 PM, Bastien wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I've been trying hard to enhance the logo for the release of 8.0
> and I gather that my attempts failed so far.  So instead of trying
> to change the colors and the shape, I suddenly realized we could
> simply find... a *better* animal.

Bastien, the ostrich is fantastic. Kudos!

  -Anthony