* Re: New logo
2013-04-01 17:20 New logo Bastien
@ 2013-04-01 17:45 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-04-01 18:10 ` Thorsten Jolitz
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From: Suvayu Ali @ 2013-04-01 17:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 07:20:13PM +0200, Bastien wrote:
>
> I asked many Org friends during the last few weeks, and we all
> agreed that an ostrich might be a good candidate.
>
> So here it is -- I just updated the website accordingly:
>
> http://orgmode.org
>
> I did spent a lot of time and energy on deciding this, and this
> is not only me, but also many Org users I've asked, so please do
> not discuss this change.
When I read the email, I thought "No! I want the unicorn!". But then I
saw the ostrich, and now I don't know anymore. I think the ostrich is
absolutely hilarious.
--
Suvayu
Open source is the future. It sets us free.
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2013-04-01 17:20 New logo Bastien
2013-04-01 17:45 ` Suvayu Ali
@ 2013-04-01 18:10 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-04-01 18:16 ` Brian van den Broek
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From: Thorsten Jolitz @ 2013-04-01 18:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:
Amazing design skills ;)
and perfect timing for the announcement ...
--
cheers,
Thorsten
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2013-04-01 17:20 New logo Bastien
2013-04-01 17:45 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-04-01 18:10 ` Thorsten Jolitz
@ 2013-04-01 18:16 ` Brian van den Broek
2013-04-01 18:23 ` Evan Misshula
2013-04-01 18:35 ` ostrich mascott but with reading glasses (was: Re: New logo) Gregor Zattler
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From: Brian van den Broek @ 2013-04-01 18:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On 1 April 2013 13:20, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've been trying hard to enhance the logo for the release of 8.0
> and I gather that my attempts failed so far. So instead of trying
> to change the colors and the shape, I suddenly realized we could
> simply find... a *better* animal.
>
> What is the most appropriate symbol of why we all use Org-mode?
>
> Yes, procrastination. Fiddling with Emacs instead of achieving
> the work we need to achieve. Trying to convince ourselves that
> this tiny Org feature will make us more proficient at our jobs,
> instead of simply working.
>
> I asked many Org friends during the last few weeks, and we all
> agreed that an ostrich might be a good candidate.
>
> So here it is -- I just updated the website accordingly:
>
> http://orgmode.org
>
> I did spent a lot of time and energy on deciding this, and this
> is not only me, but also many Org users I've asked, so please do
> not discuss this change.
>
> Hope you'll get used to it!
>
> Best,
>
> --
> Bastien
Oh, +1. No, strike that. +4
Best,
Brian vdB
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2013-04-01 18:16 ` Brian van den Broek
@ 2013-04-01 18:23 ` Evan Misshula
2013-04-01 18:28 ` Brian van den Broek
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From: Evan Misshula @ 2013-04-01 18:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Brian van den Broek; +Cc: Bastien, Emacs-orgmode
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> I did spent a lot of time and energy on deciding this, and this
> is not only me, but also many Org users I've asked, so please do
> not discuss this change.
Seems like an April fools joke. Of course we will discuss. :-P
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Brian van den Broek <
brian.van.den.broek@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1 April 2013 13:20, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've been trying hard to enhance the logo for the release of 8.0
> > and I gather that my attempts failed so far. So instead of trying
> > to change the colors and the shape, I suddenly realized we could
> > simply find... a *better* animal.
> >
> > What is the most appropriate symbol of why we all use Org-mode?
> >
> > Yes, procrastination. Fiddling with Emacs instead of achieving
> > the work we need to achieve. Trying to convince ourselves that
> > this tiny Org feature will make us more proficient at our jobs,
> > instead of simply working.
> >
> > I asked many Org friends during the last few weeks, and we all
> > agreed that an ostrich might be a good candidate.
> >
> > So here it is -- I just updated the website accordingly:
> >
> > http://orgmode.org
> >
> > I did spent a lot of time and energy on deciding this, and this
> > is not only me, but also many Org users I've asked, so please do
> > not discuss this change.
> >
> > Hope you'll get used to it!
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > --
> > Bastien
>
>
> Oh, +1. No, strike that. +4
>
> Best,
>
> Brian vdB
>
>
--
Evan Misshula
Doctoral Student (Criminal Justice)
CUNY John Jay
"Let us reform our schools, and we shall find little reform needed in our
prisons."
John Ruskin, Unto This Last, essay 2 (1862)
English critic, essayist, & reformer (1819 - 1900)
"Instruction does much, but encouragement does everything." Johann Wolfgang
Von Goethe
www.snrg-nyc.org
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2013-04-01 18:23 ` Evan Misshula
@ 2013-04-01 18:28 ` Brian van den Broek
2013-04-01 18:35 ` Evan Misshula
2013-04-01 18:46 ` Allen S. Rout
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From: Brian van den Broek @ 2013-04-01 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Evan Misshula; +Cc: Bastien, Emacs-orgmode
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On 1 Apr 2013 14:23, "Evan Misshula" <evanmisshula@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I did spent a lot of time and energy on deciding this, and this
> > is not only me, but also many Org users I've asked, so please do
> > not discuss this change.
>
> Seems like an April fools joke. Of course we will discuss. :-P
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Brian van den Broek <
brian.van.den.broek@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
>> Oh, +1. No, strike that. +4
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Brian vdB
That's not in keeping with the spirit of the thing. Knowing allusions (as
above) are fine, but overtly pointing it? That's not cricket!
Brian vdB
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* Re: New logo
2013-04-01 18:28 ` Brian van den Broek
@ 2013-04-01 18:35 ` Evan Misshula
2013-04-01 18:46 ` Allen S. Rout
2013-04-01 18:46 ` Allen S. Rout
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From: Evan Misshula @ 2013-04-01 18:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Brian van den Broek; +Cc: Bastien, Emacs-orgmode
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Apologies for any breech of protocol. EM
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Brian van den Broek <
brian.van.den.broek@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 1 Apr 2013 14:23, "Evan Misshula" <evanmisshula@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I did spent a lot of time and energy on deciding this, and this
> > > is not only me, but also many Org users I've asked, so please do
> > > not discuss this change.
> >
> > Seems like an April fools joke. Of course we will discuss. :-P
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Brian van den Broek <
> brian.van.den.broek@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >> Oh, +1. No, strike that. +4
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Brian vdB
>
> That's not in keeping with the spirit of the thing. Knowing allusions (as
> above) are fine, but overtly pointing it? That's not cricket!
>
> Brian vdB
>
--
Evan Misshula
Doctoral Student (Criminal Justice)
CUNY John Jay
"Let us reform our schools, and we shall find little reform needed in our
prisons."
John Ruskin, Unto This Last, essay 2 (1862)
English critic, essayist, & reformer (1819 - 1900)
"Instruction does much, but encouragement does everything." Johann Wolfgang
Von Goethe
www.snrg-nyc.org
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2013-04-01 18:28 ` Brian van den Broek
2013-04-01 18:35 ` Evan Misshula
@ 2013-04-01 18:46 ` Allen S. Rout
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From: Allen S. Rout @ 2013-04-01 18:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On 04/01/2013 02:28 PM, Brian van den Broek wrote:
>
> That's not in keeping with the spirit of the thing. Knowing allusions (as
> above) are fine, but overtly pointing it? That's not cricket!
Mmm. Maybe a _REALLY_ big turkey on a platter?
- Allen S. Rout
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* ostrich mascott but with reading glasses (was: Re: New logo)
2013-04-01 17:20 New logo Bastien
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2013-04-01 18:16 ` Brian van den Broek
@ 2013-04-01 18:35 ` Gregor Zattler
2013-04-01 19:45 ` Brian van den Broek
2013-04-01 18:54 ` New logo Christian Moe
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From: Gregor Zattler @ 2013-04-01 18:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi Bastien,
* Bastien <bzg@altern.org> [01. Apr. 2013]:
[... ostrich as the new org-mode logo ...]
> I did spent a lot of time and energy on deciding this, and this
> is not only me, but also many Org users I've asked, so please do
> not discuss this change.
I'm fine with Bastiens choice of an ostrich as org-mode `logo' --
in hindsight it seems really obvious. Most probably it was the
unicorn which hindered org-modes mass acceptance.
But I think it's not o.k. to force a `logo' onto the community:
First we shouldn't use the word `logo' with it's evil
connotations of commerce. Let us use the word `mascot' instead,
since it's a living being.
Second I think to really demonstrate org-modes procrastinating
power the ostrich should wear reading glasses and read the
org-mode manual. This would have the added benefit that we could
dismiss noobs and newbies with an "do as the ostrich does!"
instead of this rather vulgar `RTFM' thing.
The more conservative org-mode users may argue -- and in sharp
contrast to our benevolent dictator Bastien I encourage everyone
to argue over everything -- that ostrichs typically are portrayed
with their head in the sand. Being in harmonic mode at the
moment I would propose as a compromise that the ostrich wears
reading glasses while stuck with the head in the sand.
Ciao, Gregor
--
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2013-04-01 17:20 New logo Bastien
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2013-04-01 18:35 ` ostrich mascott but with reading glasses (was: Re: New logo) Gregor Zattler
@ 2013-04-01 18:54 ` Christian Moe
2013-04-01 20:10 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Christian Moe @ 2013-04-01 18:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
+1! :)
It's a great logo for a great PTO[1] tool.
Yours,
Christian
[1] PTO = Putting Things Off
Bastien writes:
> Hi all,
>
> I've been trying hard to enhance the logo for the release of 8.0
> and I gather that my attempts failed so far. So instead of trying
> to change the colors and the shape, I suddenly realized we could
> simply find... a *better* animal.
>
> What is the most appropriate symbol of why we all use Org-mode?
>
> Yes, procrastination. Fiddling with Emacs instead of achieving
> the work we need to achieve. Trying to convince ourselves that
> this tiny Org feature will make us more proficient at our jobs,
> instead of simply working.
>
> I asked many Org friends during the last few weeks, and we all
> agreed that an ostrich might be a good candidate.
>
> So here it is -- I just updated the website accordingly:
>
> http://orgmode.org
>
> I did spent a lot of time and energy on deciding this, and this
> is not only me, but also many Org users I've asked, so please do
> not discuss this change.
>
> Hope you'll get used to it!
>
> Best,
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2013-04-01 17:20 New logo Bastien
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2013-04-01 18:54 ` New logo Christian Moe
@ 2013-04-01 20:10 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-04-01 20:54 ` Michael Gauland
2013-04-01 22:40 ` Anthony Lander
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2013-04-01 20:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On 1.4.2013, at 19:20, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've been trying hard to enhance the logo for the release of 8.0
> and I gather that my attempts failed so far. So instead of trying
> to change the colors and the shape, I suddenly realized we could
> simply find... a *better* animal.
>
> What is the most appropriate symbol of why we all use Org-mode?
>
> Yes, procrastination. Fiddling with Emacs instead of achieving
> the work we need to achieve. Trying to convince ourselves that
> this tiny Org feature will make us more proficient at our jobs,
> instead of simply working.
>
> I asked many Org friends during the last few weeks, and we all
> agreed that an ostrich might be a good candidate.
>
> So here it is -- I just updated the website accordingly:
>
> http://orgmode.org
>
> I did spent a lot of time and energy on deciding this, and this
> is not only me, but also many Org users I've asked, so please do
> not discuss this change.
>
> Hope you'll get used to it!
Wow, I've got to hand it to you. After the recent color experiments - this one does not make me physically sick, and it is in fact a fine depiction of how I feel way too often. Seems perfectly suited for an animated gif logo, too!
Great work!
- Carsten
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2013-04-01 17:20 New logo Bastien
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2013-04-01 20:10 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2013-04-01 20:54 ` Michael Gauland
2013-04-01 22:16 ` Rasmus
2013-04-01 22:40 ` Anthony Lander
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From: Michael Gauland @ 2013-04-01 20:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org> writes:
>
> I asked many Org friends during the last few weeks, and we all
> agreed that an ostrich might be a good candidate.
I'm afraid this logo sends the wrong message. It should be showing the
non-org-users of the world with their heads in the sand.
Or maybe the logo should include the subterranean wonders of org the ostrich
(orgstrich?) is marveling at?
--Mike
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2013-04-01 17:20 New logo Bastien
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2013-04-01 20:54 ` Michael Gauland
@ 2013-04-01 22:40 ` Anthony Lander
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From: Anthony Lander @ 2013-04-01 22:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On 13-Apr-1, at 1:20 PM, Bastien wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've been trying hard to enhance the logo for the release of 8.0
> and I gather that my attempts failed so far. So instead of trying
> to change the colors and the shape, I suddenly realized we could
> simply find... a *better* animal.
Bastien, the ostrich is fantastic. Kudos!
-Anthony
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