* export to latex but *not* export the citations @ 2018-01-19 14:27 Sharon Kimble 2018-01-19 15:19 ` John Kitchin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Sharon Kimble @ 2018-01-19 14:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: org-mode-email [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1418 bytes --] I'm writing a document which currently has 408 pages and over a 1,000 footnotes, and with a size of 1.1 mbs. I'm exporting it to latex using 'org-latex-export-to-latex' and am now wondering is it possible to export it *and* omit the citations? The citations currently are showing in the org-mode source file as '(cite:xxxx)'. So to clarify - the org-mode document is exported to latex and then built into a pdf file in a separate process. The org-mode document has citations, showing in the org-mode document as '(cite:xxxx)', where the 'xxxx' is any one of four figures which don't have any impact on reality in org-mode, though org-ref allows them to be seen as a quasi-bibtex display in the mini-buffer. When the pdf file is built they are converted into authoryear citations, and its these citations that I'm looking to *not* display in the pdf file. I would like the citations to still show in the org-mode source document but not to show in the final built pdf file. The file, or program, that is building the pdf can be seen at [fn:1]. So how can I do it please? Thanks Sharon. [fn:1] 'pdfbuild' - from tex to PDF - version 2 = http://www.sharons.org.uk/pdfbuild2.html -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk DrugFacts = https://www.drugfacts.org.uk Debian 9.3, fluxbox 1.3.7, emacs 25.3.2, org-mode 9.1.6-10-g0c9329-elpaplus [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 832 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: export to latex but *not* export the citations 2018-01-19 14:27 export to latex but *not* export the citations Sharon Kimble @ 2018-01-19 15:19 ` John Kitchin 2018-01-19 16:45 ` Sharon Kimble 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: John Kitchin @ 2018-01-19 15:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sharon Kimble; +Cc: org-mode-email You can try this: * Build :noexport: Put this heading in your file, and run this block. #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp (flet ((org-ref-format-cite (keyword desc format) "")) (org-latex-export-to-latex)) #+END_SRC It will temporarily redefine the cite export function. It appears it replaces them with a space, but this should be a problem for latex. Sharon Kimble writes: > I'm writing a document which currently has 408 pages and over a 1,000 > footnotes, and with a size of 1.1 mbs. > > I'm exporting it to latex using 'org-latex-export-to-latex' and am now > wondering is it possible to export it *and* omit the citations? The > citations currently are showing in the org-mode source file as > '(cite:xxxx)'. > > So to clarify - the org-mode document is exported to latex and then > built into a pdf file in a separate process. The org-mode document has > citations, showing in the org-mode document as '(cite:xxxx)', where the > 'xxxx' is any one of four figures which don't have any impact on reality > in org-mode, though org-ref allows them to be seen as a quasi-bibtex > display in the mini-buffer. When the pdf file is built they are > converted into authoryear citations, and its these citations that I'm > looking to *not* display in the pdf file. I would like the citations to > still show in the org-mode source document but not to show in the final > built pdf file. > > The file, or program, that is building the pdf can be seen at [fn:1]. > > So how can I do it please? > > Thanks > Sharon. > > [fn:1] 'pdfbuild' - from tex to PDF - version 2 = http://www.sharons.org.uk/pdfbuild2.html -- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 @johnkitchin http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: export to latex but *not* export the citations 2018-01-19 15:19 ` John Kitchin @ 2018-01-19 16:45 ` Sharon Kimble 2018-01-19 20:17 ` John Kitchin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Sharon Kimble @ 2018-01-19 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: John Kitchin; +Cc: org-mode-email [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 5185 bytes --] John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > You can try this: > > * Build :noexport: > > Put this heading in your file, and run this block. > > #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp > (flet ((org-ref-format-cite (keyword desc format) "")) > (org-latex-export-to-latex)) > #+END_SRC > > It will temporarily redefine the cite export function. It appears it > replaces them with a space, but this should be a problem for latex. > Sorry list, I inadvertently sent this direct to John. Thanks John for this, its not quite working as I'd like, so I'll explain it with examples. * Case 1 - original setup --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- Source = The remaining 'other place' deaths include over 150 described as 'psychiatric hospitals', 'psychiatric hospitals (security)' or 'psychiatric unit' (cite:0113). Pdf = The remaining ’other place’ deaths include over 150 described as ’psychiatric hospitals’, ’psychiatric hospitals (security)’ or ’psychiatric unit’ (WILSON , 2015). --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- * Case 2 - brackets removed round citation --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- Source = The remaining 'other place' deaths include over 150 described as 'psychiatric hospitals', 'psychiatric hospitals (security)' or 'psychiatric unit' cite:0113. Pdf = The remaining ’other place’ deaths include over 150 described as ’psychiatric hospitals’, ’psychiatric hospitals (security)’ or ’psychiatric unit’ WILSON , 2015. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- * Case 3 - with John's coding --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- Source = The remaining 'other place' deaths include over 150 described as 'psychiatric hospitals', 'psychiatric hospitals (security)' or 'psychiatric unit' (cite:0113). And with your coding and built as pdf = The remaining ’other place’ deaths include over 150 described as ’psychiatric hospitals’, ’psychiatric hospitals (security)’ or ’psychiatric unit’ (). --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- * Case 4 - with John's coding --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- Source = The remaining 'other place' deaths include over 150 described as 'psychiatric hospitals', 'psychiatric hospitals (security)' or 'psychiatric unit' cite:0113. And with your coding and built as pdf = The remaining ’other place’ deaths include over 150 described as ’psychiatric hospitals’, ’psychiatric hospitals (security)’ or ’psychiatric unit’ . --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- - Case 1 is the start point and as it currently is. - Case 2 is an interim stage, with the circular brackets round the citation removed. When its exported the sentence looks ugly with out any differentiation between the text and the citation. - Case 3 is with John's coding snippet being applied and the whole exported, and it leaves the circular brackets round the citation behind but no citation. - Case 4 is with John's coding snippet applied after the circular brackets have been removed, and is nirvana! :) But it would be a mammoth undertaking going through and removing all the circular brackets round the citations, and there's 381 references in the bibliography, so is it possible for your code snippet to temporarily remove the circular brackets as part of its building the tex file please? Thanks John, I do appreciate it Sharon. > Sharon Kimble writes: > >> I'm writing a document which currently has 408 pages and over a 1,000 >> footnotes, and with a size of 1.1 mbs. >> >> I'm exporting it to latex using 'org-latex-export-to-latex' and am now >> wondering is it possible to export it *and* omit the citations? The >> citations currently are showing in the org-mode source file as >> '(cite:xxxx)'. >> >> So to clarify - the org-mode document is exported to latex and then >> built into a pdf file in a separate process. The org-mode document has >> citations, showing in the org-mode document as '(cite:xxxx)', where the >> 'xxxx' is any one of four figures which don't have any impact on reality >> in org-mode, though org-ref allows them to be seen as a quasi-bibtex >> display in the mini-buffer. When the pdf file is built they are >> converted into authoryear citations, and its these citations that I'm >> looking to *not* display in the pdf file. I would like the citations to >> still show in the org-mode source document but not to show in the final >> built pdf file. >> >> The file, or program, that is building the pdf can be seen at [fn:1]. >> >> So how can I do it please? >> >> Thanks >> Sharon. >> >> [fn:1] 'pdfbuild' - from tex to PDF - version 2 = http://www.sharons.org.uk/pdfbuild2.html -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk DrugFacts = https://www.drugfacts.org.uk Debian 9.3, fluxbox 1.3.7, emacs 25.3.2, org-mode 9.1.6-10-g0c9329-elpaplus [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 832 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: export to latex but *not* export the citations 2018-01-19 16:45 ` Sharon Kimble @ 2018-01-19 20:17 ` John Kitchin 2018-01-19 21:22 ` Sharon Kimble 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: John Kitchin @ 2018-01-19 20:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sharon Kimble; +Cc: org-mode-email [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 6774 bytes --] I don't think that it is possible for the snippet I sent to remove the the parentheses as they are not part of the link. You can either replace them all interactively with a regexp, e.g. #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp (goto-char (point-min)) (query-replace-regexp "(\\(cite:.*\\))" "\\1") #+END_SRC That regexp assumes they are all cite links (e.g. no citep, etc), and that there are no spaces between the (). This is what I would do, it should prompt you for each replacement, and you will end up pressing y 381 times. Alternatively, you can use this approach to remove the links from a copy of the buffer right before it is exported. This will leave the original links in place. #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp (let ((org-export-before-processing-hook (lambda (backend) (goto-char (point-max)) (while (re-search-backward "(cite:.*)" nil t) (setf (buffer-substring (match-beginning 0) (match-end 0)) ""))))) (org-latex-export-as-latex)) #+END_SRC John ----------------------------------- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 @johnkitchin http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 8:45 AM, Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble.plus.com> wrote: > John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > > > You can try this: > > > > * Build :noexport: > > > > Put this heading in your file, and run this block. > > > > #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp > > (flet ((org-ref-format-cite (keyword desc format) "")) > > (org-latex-export-to-latex)) > > #+END_SRC > > > > It will temporarily redefine the cite export function. It appears it > > replaces them with a space, but this should be a problem for latex. > > > Sorry list, I inadvertently sent this direct to John. > > Thanks John for this, its not quite working as I'd like, so I'll explain > it with examples. > > * Case 1 - original setup > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > Source = > > The remaining 'other place' > deaths include over 150 described as 'psychiatric hospitals', 'psychiatric > hospitals (security)' or > 'psychiatric unit' (cite:0113). > > Pdf = > > The remaining > ’other place’ deaths include over 150 described as ’psychiatric > hospitals’, ’psychiatric hospitals > (security)’ or ’psychiatric unit’ (WILSON , 2015). > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > > * Case 2 - brackets removed round citation > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > Source = > > The remaining 'other place' > deaths include over 150 described as 'psychiatric hospitals', 'psychiatric > hospitals (security)' or > 'psychiatric unit' cite:0113. > > Pdf = > > The remaining > ’other place’ deaths include over 150 described as ’psychiatric > hospitals’, ’psychiatric hospitals > (security)’ or ’psychiatric unit’ WILSON , 2015. > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > * Case 3 - with John's coding > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > Source = > > The remaining 'other place' > deaths include over 150 described as 'psychiatric hospitals', 'psychiatric > hospitals (security)' or > 'psychiatric unit' (cite:0113). > > And with your coding and built as pdf = > > The remaining > ’other place’ deaths include over 150 described as ’psychiatric > hospitals’, ’psychiatric hospitals > (security)’ or ’psychiatric unit’ (). > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > > * Case 4 - with John's coding > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > Source = > > The remaining 'other place' > deaths include over 150 described as 'psychiatric hospitals', 'psychiatric > hospitals (security)' or > 'psychiatric unit' cite:0113. > > And with your coding and built as pdf = > > The remaining > ’other place’ deaths include over 150 described as ’psychiatric > hospitals’, ’psychiatric hospitals > (security)’ or ’psychiatric unit’ . > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > > - Case 1 is the start point and as it currently is. > - Case 2 is an interim stage, with the circular brackets round the > citation removed. When its exported the sentence looks ugly with out > any differentiation between the text and the citation. > - Case 3 is with John's coding snippet being applied and the whole > exported, and it leaves the circular brackets round the citation > behind but no citation. > - Case 4 is with John's coding snippet applied after the circular > brackets have been removed, and is nirvana! :) > > But it would be a mammoth undertaking going through and removing all the > circular brackets round the citations, and there's 381 references in the > bibliography, so is it possible for your code snippet to temporarily > remove the circular brackets as part of its building the tex file > please? > > Thanks John, I do appreciate it > > Sharon. > > > > Sharon Kimble writes: > > > >> I'm writing a document which currently has 408 pages and over a 1,000 > >> footnotes, and with a size of 1.1 mbs. > >> > >> I'm exporting it to latex using 'org-latex-export-to-latex' and am now > >> wondering is it possible to export it *and* omit the citations? The > >> citations currently are showing in the org-mode source file as > >> '(cite:xxxx)'. > >> > >> So to clarify - the org-mode document is exported to latex and then > >> built into a pdf file in a separate process. The org-mode document has > >> citations, showing in the org-mode document as '(cite:xxxx)', where the > >> 'xxxx' is any one of four figures which don't have any impact on reality > >> in org-mode, though org-ref allows them to be seen as a quasi-bibtex > >> display in the mini-buffer. When the pdf file is built they are > >> converted into authoryear citations, and its these citations that I'm > >> looking to *not* display in the pdf file. I would like the citations to > >> still show in the org-mode source document but not to show in the final > >> built pdf file. > >> > >> The file, or program, that is building the pdf can be seen at [fn:1]. > >> > >> So how can I do it please? > >> > >> Thanks > >> Sharon. > >> > >> [fn:1] 'pdfbuild' - from tex to PDF - version 2 = > http://www.sharons.org.uk/pdfbuild2.html > > -- > A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk > TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk > DrugFacts = https://www.drugfacts.org.uk > Debian 9.3, fluxbox 1.3.7, emacs 25.3.2, org-mode 9.1.6-10-g0c9329-elpaplus > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 9049 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: export to latex but *not* export the citations 2018-01-19 20:17 ` John Kitchin @ 2018-01-19 21:22 ` Sharon Kimble 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Sharon Kimble @ 2018-01-19 21:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: John Kitchin; +Cc: org-mode-email [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 8882 bytes --] John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > I don't think that it is possible for the snippet I sent to remove the the parentheses as they are not part of the link. > > You can either replace them all interactively with a regexp, e.g. > > #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp > (goto-char (point-min)) > (query-replace-regexp "(\\(cite:.*\\))" "\\1") > #+END_SRC > > That regexp assumes they are all cite links (e.g. no citep, etc), and that there are no spaces between the (). This is what I would do, it should prompt you for each replacement, and you will end up pressing y 381 times. > > Alternatively, you can use this approach to remove the links from a copy of the buffer right before it is exported. This will leave the original links in place. > > #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp > (let ((org-export-before-processing-hook (lambda (backend) > (goto-char (point-max)) > (while (re-search-backward "(cite:.*)" nil t) > (setf (buffer-substring (match-beginning 0) (match-end 0)) ""))))) > (org-latex-export-as-latex)) > #+END_SRC Thanks very much for this John. I've used your second version with a slight alteration and the complete snippet now shows as - --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- * Build :noexport: #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp (let ((org-export-before-processing-hook (lambda (backend) (goto-char (point-max)) (while (re-search-backward "(cite:.*)" nil t) (setf (buffer-substring (match-beginning 0) (match-end 0)) ""))))) (org-latex-export-to-latex)) #+END_SRC --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- This then allows me to build my pdf file using my 'pdfbuild' script as per normal. The reason why I've gone for your second code snippet is because it still leaves the original curled brackets in situ so that I can do a 'normal' build at any time and export it as a latex file for building with. I've tried it out on 3 different files which I am most readily converting to latex at the moment, and its worked very well in all of them, so thanks John kudos to you :) I suppose the next logical question is - how do I assign some keys to it so that I can trigger the revamped build from elsewhere in the document? Or even include it in my 'Mono' menu using "easymenu"? Thanks Sharon. > John > > ----------------------------------- > Professor John Kitchin > Doherty Hall A207F > Department of Chemical Engineering > Carnegie Mellon University > Pittsburgh, PA 15213 > 412-268-7803 > @johnkitchin > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu > > On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 8:45 AM, Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble.plus.com> wrote: > > John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > > > You can try this: > > > > * Build :noexport: > > > > Put this heading in your file, and run this block. > > > > #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp > > (flet ((org-ref-format-cite (keyword desc format) "")) > > (org-latex-export-to-latex)) > > #+END_SRC > > > > It will temporarily redefine the cite export function. It appears it > > replaces them with a space, but this should be a problem for latex. > > > Sorry list, I inadvertently sent this direct to John. > > Thanks John for this, its not quite working as I'd like, so I'll explain it with examples. > > * Case 1 - original setup > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > Source = > > The remaining 'other place' > deaths include over 150 described as 'psychiatric hospitals', 'psychiatric hospitals (security)' or > 'psychiatric unit' (cite:0113). > > Pdf = > > The remaining > ’other place’ deaths include over 150 described as ’psychiatric hospitals’, ’psychiatric hospitals > (security)’ or ’psychiatric unit’ (WILSON , 2015). > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > * Case 2 - brackets removed round citation > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > Source = > > The remaining 'other place' > deaths include over 150 described as 'psychiatric hospitals', 'psychiatric hospitals (security)' or > 'psychiatric unit' cite:0113. > > Pdf = > > The remaining > ’other place’ deaths include over 150 described as ’psychiatric hospitals’, ’psychiatric hospitals > (security)’ or ’psychiatric unit’ WILSON , 2015. > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > * Case 3 - with John's coding > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > Source = > > The remaining 'other place' > deaths include over 150 described as 'psychiatric hospitals', 'psychiatric hospitals (security)' or > 'psychiatric unit' (cite:0113). > > And with your coding and built as pdf = > > The remaining > ’other place’ deaths include over 150 described as ’psychiatric hospitals’, ’psychiatric hospitals > (security)’ or ’psychiatric unit’ (). > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > * Case 4 - with John's coding > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > Source = > > The remaining 'other place' > deaths include over 150 described as 'psychiatric hospitals', 'psychiatric hospitals (security)' or > 'psychiatric unit' cite:0113. > > And with your coding and built as pdf = > > The remaining > ’other place’ deaths include over 150 described as ’psychiatric hospitals’, ’psychiatric hospitals > (security)’ or ’psychiatric unit’ . > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > - Case 1 is the start point and as it currently is. > - Case 2 is an interim stage, with the circular brackets round the > citation removed. When its exported the sentence looks ugly with out > any differentiation between the text and the citation. > - Case 3 is with John's coding snippet being applied and the whole > exported, and it leaves the circular brackets round the citation > behind but no citation. > - Case 4 is with John's coding snippet applied after the circular > brackets have been removed, and is nirvana! :) > > But it would be a mammoth undertaking going through and removing all the > circular brackets round the citations, and there's 381 references in the > bibliography, so is it possible for your code snippet to temporarily > remove the circular brackets as part of its building the tex file > please? > > Thanks John, I do appreciate it > > Sharon. > > > Sharon Kimble writes: > > > >> I'm writing a document which currently has 408 pages and over a 1,000 > >> footnotes, and with a size of 1.1 mbs. > >> > >> I'm exporting it to latex using 'org-latex-export-to-latex' and am now > >> wondering is it possible to export it *and* omit the citations? The > >> citations currently are showing in the org-mode source file as > >> '(cite:xxxx)'. > >> > >> So to clarify - the org-mode document is exported to latex and then > >> built into a pdf file in a separate process. The org-mode document has > >> citations, showing in the org-mode document as '(cite:xxxx)', where the > >> 'xxxx' is any one of four figures which don't have any impact on reality > >> in org-mode, though org-ref allows them to be seen as a quasi-bibtex > >> display in the mini-buffer. When the pdf file is built they are > >> converted into authoryear citations, and its these citations that I'm > >> looking to *not* display in the pdf file. I would like the citations to > >> still show in the org-mode source document but not to show in the final > >> built pdf file. > >> > >> The file, or program, that is building the pdf can be seen at [fn:1]. > >> > >> So how can I do it please? > >> > >> Thanks > >> Sharon. > >> > >> [fn:1] 'pdfbuild' - from tex to PDF - version 2 = http://www.sharons.org.uk/pdfbuild2.html > > -- > A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk > TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk > DrugFacts = https://www.drugfacts.org.uk > Debian 9.3, fluxbox 1.3.7, emacs 25.3.2, org-mode 9.1.6-10-g0c9329-elpaplus > -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk DrugFacts = https://www.drugfacts.org.uk Debian 9.3, fluxbox 1.3.7, emacs 25.3.2, org-mode 9.1.6-10-g0c9329-elpaplus [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 832 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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