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From: tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye)
To: Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: org-cite and org-citeproc
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:29:34 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2vbhgap1t.fsf@tsdye.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87iodh55b5.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> (Nick Dokos's message of "Tue, 31 Mar 2015 15:34:54 -0400")

Aloha all,

Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com> writes:

> Richard Lawrence <richard.lawrence@berkeley.edu> writes:
>
>> However, there are a couple of other scenarios to think about:
>>
>> 1) Some people may still need to use plain BibTeX.  Generating LaTeX
>> that is intended to be processed with BibTeX, as opposed to BibLaTeX, is
>> a little trickier, because (IIUC) BibTeX does not support multi-cite
>> citations.
>
> I know next to nothing about citations in general, so please bear with
> me: if multi-cite support means being able to condense citations (e.g.
> [1-3, 5, 9]), then bibtex can do at least some of that
> (e.g. http://texblog.org/2007/05/28/mulitple-reference-citation/).

Multiple citations with natbib are limited in the sense that individual
citations within them don't carry pre- and post-notes.  BibLaTeX does
away with this restriction.

>> Also, I don't know how easy it would be to capture the other
>> features of citations (e.g., the in-text vs. parenthetical distinction)
>> without relying on a package like natbib.  If generating
>> BibTeX-compatible LaTeX is needed, is it OK to rely on such a package?
>>
>
> IMO yes.

IMO yes, too.

The org-export-cite-add-citation-mode-latex function that Aaron Ecay
wrote allows the author to choose (implicitly) which package to use.  I
like this design because it can accommodate new packages without changes
to the Org mode code.

,-------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Your comment inspired me to implement                                   
| org-export-cite-add-citation-mode-latex in the experimental citation    
| support I just pushed.  So you can do:                                  
|                                                                         
| (org-export-cite-add-citation-mode-latex "tsd"                          
| "\\mycitecommand[%s][%s]{%s}" "\\myparencitecommand[%s][%s]{%s}")       
|                                                                         
| Add to your document:                                                   
|                                                                         
| #+CITATION_MODE: tsd                                                    
|                                                                         
| And citations should just work with your chosen commands.  I’m sure when
| advanced citation support comes along (whether from subtypes or plists),
| a similarly simple wrapper can be implemented.                          
`-------------------------------------------------------------------------

I haven't found time to experiment with the citation developments or to
read through the developing code base.  Was this feature of Aaron's
experimental support subsequently dropped?

All the best,
Tom
-- 
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-31 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-28 18:53 Richard Lawrence
2015-03-31  8:16 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-03-31 19:13   ` Richard Lawrence
2015-03-31 19:34     ` Nick Dokos
2015-03-31 20:29       ` Thomas S. Dye [this message]
2015-03-31 21:57         ` Richard Lawrence
2015-04-01  0:41           ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-04-01 15:42             ` Richard Lawrence
2015-04-01 19:41               ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-04-02 15:57                 ` Richard Lawrence
2015-04-02 16:45                   ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-03-31 21:12     ` Eric S Fraga
2015-04-01  7:49       ` Andreas Leha
2015-04-02 14:29         ` Eric S Fraga
2015-04-02 15:11           ` Richard Lawrence
2015-04-02 19:26             ` Andreas Leha
2015-03-31 22:03     ` Rasmus
2015-04-01 14:39       ` Richard Lawrence
2015-04-02  0:08         ` Rasmus
2015-04-02 15:26           ` Richard Lawrence
2015-04-02 15:51 ` Aaron Ecay
2015-04-02 17:38   ` Richard Lawrence
2015-04-06 18:51     ` Richard Lawrence
2015-06-16 19:36       ` Matt Price
2015-06-18 22:44         ` Richard Lawrence
2015-04-02 19:17   ` Rasmus
2015-04-03  2:56     ` Richard Lawrence

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