From: tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye)
To: Eric Schulte <eric.schulte@gmx.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Updating the Babel section of Worg
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:20:11 -1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1mx8rdius.fsf@tsdye.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8762fhe76u.fsf@gmx.com> (Eric Schulte's message of "Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:14:15 -0700")
Hi Eric,
I pushed a draft of the revised LaTeX language section to Worg
(http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/ob-doc-LaTeX.html).
Please take a look and edit as necessary. Too often I understand
these things partially!
If Andreas Leha is reading this it would be good to take a look at my
description of the ImageMagick facility. I tried to stick closely to
the sources, but might have strayed.
All the best,
Tom
Eric Schulte <eric.schulte@gmx.com> writes:
> tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:
>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> I've attached a first draft of a template for review and revision. It
>> is heavily influenced by John Hendy's terrific gnuplot page. I
>> believe it incorporates the points in your outline. Feel free to
>> edit as appropriate.
>>
>
> Looks great to me. I made a small change, and I've just pushed it up to
> worg and linked to it from the languages page. We can continue to
> improve this template as needed on worg although I think it is already
> in very good shape and ready for use.
>
> Thanks,
>
>>
>> All the best,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric Schulte <eric.schulte@gmx.com> writes:
>>
>>> Hi Tom,
>>>
>>> tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:
>>>
>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, this is overdue. I think your plan is a good one.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps a few of the individual use cases could be moved to FIXME,
>>>> instead? I'm thinking here of Feiming Chen's R setup and some of my
>>>> contributions when I was experimenting writing LaTeX inside source
>>>> code blocks. The authors could resurrect these as they see fit.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know what FIXME is, but if there is a way to keep the page in
>>> the worg git repository but remove it from the exported HTML then that
>>> sounds ideal.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully, others will contribute use examples. My sense from reading
>>>> the list is there are many interesting ones.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like it if Org mode users designed a template for the language
>>>> specific pages. Currently, these seem to me a mixed bag and it would be
>>>> good to regularize them.
>>>
>>> The below is a modified version of a template which can be found in a
>>> couple of the existing language tutorials, I think it serves as a good
>>> starting point.
>>>
>>> - Install and Setup
>>> - Instillation and configuration of software (e.g., the language itself)
>>> - Configuration of Emacs (e.g., activate language, set command path)
>>> - Examples
>>> - Common ways to use the language in an Org-mode document
>>> - Special cases
>>> - are there any language-specific header arguments
>>> - does the language support session evaluation
>>> - does the language support all result types
>>> - is the language different from most babel languages
>>> (e.g., C is compiled before execution, ditaa returns files, etc...)
>>>
>>>> It would also be nice to have one for each of the supported languages.
>>>> There are 11 language specific pages now, which leaves quite a few
>>>> languages under-documented.
>>>
>>> (length org-babel-load-languages) ;; => 27
>>>
>>> ls org-contrib/babel/languages/ob-doc-*|wc -l # => 11
>>>
>>> It looks like we have at least 16 more to go before we hit full language
>>> coverage. Perhaps we should use the empty cells in the "documentation"
>>> column in the languages table at [1] as a sign up space for volunteers
>>> who would be willing to write a brief tutorial demonstrating usage of
>>> Org-mode with their favorite language.
>>>
>>> Moving forward this is likely something we could request of the
>>> contributors of new languages.
>>>
>>> Also, once the template above is finalized it should be posted on worg
>>> and linked to through the languages page.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll be happy to work on this as I can.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Great, I don't anticipate having time to put towards this, although I'll
>>> be happy to help troubleshoot where I can.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eric Schulte <eric.schulte@gmx.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for raising this point. The bulk of the content in the Babel
>>>>> portion of worg is fairly old, predating the syntax standardization
>>>>> efforts this fall. I've just pushed some minor updates to the main
>>>>> babel pages, but updating the language-specific tutorials and the
>>>>> individual use cases will be a much larger effort.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure how to proceed. One option would be to go through and add
>>>>> a [uses deprecated syntax] tag to the top of each such page, which could
>>>>> be removed after the page has been checked and possibly updated to
>>>>> ensure consistency with the latest syntax.
>>>>>
>>>>> Given that the Babel syntax will not be changing significantly moving
>>>>> forward now would be a good time to do such a review. Ideally this
>>>>> could be completed before the release of Emacs 24 in a couple of months.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any other ideas for update/reorganization or volunteers?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Riccardo,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the URL. Org mode has evolved since this article was
>>>>>> written. It should probably be revised or taken off Worg. I've copied
>>>>>> Eric Schulte, who is better able than me to determine the correct course
>>>>>> of action here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the meantime, an up-to-date description of how Org mode can be used
>>>>>> to write literate programs has appeared in the Journal of Statistical
>>>>>> Software. You can find it here: http://www.jstatsoft.org/v46/i03
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps you could use the examples in the JSS article to get started?
>>>>>> If these don't work for you, or if they raise questions that are difficult
>>>>>> to answer, please do come back to the list with your queries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Riccardo Romoli <ric.romoli@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, this is the URL:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/how-to-use-Org-Babel-for-R.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> R
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2012/2/5 Thomas S. Dye <tsd@tsdye.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Riccardo,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This code appears to be outdated. I don't recall this code on the org
>>>>>>>> site. Could you send a URL?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Riccardo Romoli <ric.romoli@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Hi, I'm trying to generate some figure with R, into an org session.
>>>>>>>> Firstly
>>>>>>>> > I use the code in the org site. The problem is that the code do not
>>>>>>>> > generate any figure.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > This is the code:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > #+TITLE:Test
>>>>>>>> > #+AUTHOR: Your Name
>>>>>>>> > #+EMAIL: your-email@server.com
>>>>>>>> > #+BABEL: :session *R* :cache yes :results output graphics :exports
>>>>>>>> > both :tangle yes
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > * Example of Org-Babel for R Literate Programming
>>>>>>>> > ** R text output
>>>>>>>> > A simple summary.
>>>>>>>> > #+begin_src R
>>>>>>>> > x <- rnorm(10)
>>>>>>>> > summary(x)
>>>>>>>> > #+end_src
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > ** R graphics output
>>>>>>>> > Note we use the object =x= generated in previous code block, thanks to
>>>>>>>> > the header option =:session *R*=. The output graphics file is
>>>>>>>> > =a.png=.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > #+begin_src R :file a.png
>>>>>>>> > y <- rnorm(10)
>>>>>>>> > plot(x, y)
>>>>>>>> > #+end_src
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Same plot with larger dimension:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > #+begin_src R :file b.png :width 800 :height 800
>>>>>>>> > plot(x, y)
>>>>>>>> > #+end_src
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Where do I wrong?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Best
>>>>>>>> > Riccardo
>>>>>>>> > Hi, I'm trying to generate some figure with R, into an org session.
>>>>>>>> Firstly I use the code in the org site. The problem is that the code do not
>>>>>>>> generate any figure. This is the code:
>>>>>>>> > #+TITLE:Test
>>>>>>>> > #+AUTHOR: Your Name
>>>>>>>> > #+EMAIL: mailto:your-email@server.com
>>>>>>>> > #+BABEL: :session *R* :cache yes :results output graphics :exports both
>>>>>>>> :tangle yes
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > * Example of Org-Babel for R Literate Programming
>>>>>>>> > ** R text output
>>>>>>>> > A simple summary.
>>>>>>>> > #+begin_src R
>>>>>>>> > x <- rnorm(10)
>>>>>>>> > summary(x)
>>>>>>>> > #+end_src
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > ** R graphics output
>>>>>>>> > Note we use the object =x= generated in previous code block, thanks to
>>>>>>>> > the header option =:session *R*=. The output graphics file is
>>>>>>>> > =a.png=.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > #+begin_src R :file a.png
>>>>>>>> > y <- rnorm(10)
>>>>>>>> > plot(x, y)
>>>>>>>> > #+end_src
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Same plot with larger dimension:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > #+begin_src R :file b.png :width 800 :height 800
>>>>>>>> > plot(x, y)
>>>>>>>> > #+end_src
>>>>>>>> > Where do I wrong?BestRiccardo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Thomas S. Dye
>>>>>>>> http://www.tsdye.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, this is the URL:http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/how-to-use-Org-Babel-for-R.htmlBestR
>>>>>>> 2012/2/5 Thomas S. Dye <span dir="ltr"><mailto:tsd@tsdye.com></span>Hi Riccardo,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This code appears to be outdated. I don't recall this code on the org
>>>>>>> site. Could you send a URL?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Riccardo Romoli <mailto:ric.romoli@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, I'm trying to generate some figure with R, into an org session. Firstly
>>>>>>>> I use the code in the org site. The problem is that the code do not
>>>>>>>> generate any figure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is the code:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> #+TITLE:Test
>>>>>>>> #+AUTHOR: Your Name
>>>>>>>> #+EMAIL: mailto:your-email@server.com
>>>>>>>> #+BABEL: :session *R* :cache yes :results output graphics :exports
>>>>>>>> both :tangle yes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Example of Org-Babel for R Literate Programming
>>>>>>>> ** R text output
>>>>>>>> A simple summary.
>>>>>>>> #+begin_src R
>>>>>>>> x <- rnorm(10)
>>>>>>>> summary(x)
>>>>>>>> #+end_src
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** R graphics output
>>>>>>>> Note we use the object =x= generated in previous code block, thanks to
>>>>>>>> the header option =:session *R*=. The output graphics file is
>>>>>>>> =a.png=.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> #+begin_src R :file a.png
>>>>>>>> y <- rnorm(10)
>>>>>>>> plot(x, y)
>>>>>>>> #+end_src
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Same plot with larger dimension:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> #+begin_src R :file b.png :width 800 :height 800
>>>>>>>> plot(x, y)
>>>>>>>> #+end_src
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where do I wrong?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>> Riccardo
>>>>>>>> Hi, I'm trying to generate some figure with R, into an org
>>>>>>>> session. Firstly I use the code in the org site. The problem is
>>>>>>>> that the code do not generate any figure. This is the code:
>>>>>>>> #+TITLE:Test
>>>>>>>> #+AUTHOR: Your Name
>>>>>>>> #+EMAIL: mailto:mailto:your-email@server.com
>>>>>>>> #+BABEL: :session *R* :cache yes :results output graphics :exports both :tangle yes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Example of Org-Babel for R Literate Programming
>>>>>>>> ** R text output
>>>>>>>> A simple summary.
>>>>>>>> #+begin_src R
>>>>>>>> x <- rnorm(10)
>>>>>>>> summary(x)
>>>>>>>> #+end_src
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** R graphics output
>>>>>>>> Note we use the object =x= generated in previous code block, thanks to
>>>>>>>> the header option =:session *R*=. The output graphics file is
>>>>>>>> =a.png=.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> #+begin_src R :file a.png
>>>>>>>> y <- rnorm(10)
>>>>>>>> plot(x, y)
>>>>>>>> #+end_src
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Same plot with larger dimension:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> #+begin_src R :file b.png :width 800 :height 800
>>>>>>>> plot(x, y)
>>>>>>>> #+end_src
>>>>>>>> Where do I wrong?BestRiccardo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <span class="HOEnZb">--
>>>>>>> Thomas S. Dye
>>>>>>> http://www.tsdye.com
>>>>>>> </span>
>>>
>>>
>>> Footnotes:
>>> [1] http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages.html
--
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-09 17:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-04 22:52 Generating plot with org-babel-R Riccardo Romoli
2012-02-04 23:37 ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-02-05 11:08 ` Riccardo Romoli
2012-02-05 16:45 ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-02-05 19:29 ` Updating the Babel section of Worg Was: " Eric Schulte
2012-02-06 5:43 ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-02-06 21:20 ` Updating the Babel section of Worg Eric Schulte
2012-02-08 0:01 ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-02-08 1:04 ` Martyn Jago
2012-02-08 14:21 ` Eric Schulte
2012-02-08 14:44 ` Rainer M Krug
2012-02-08 15:27 ` Eric Schulte
2012-02-08 14:14 ` Eric Schulte
2012-02-09 17:20 ` Thomas S. Dye [this message]
2012-02-18 21:53 ` Eric Schulte
2012-02-08 15:41 ` John Hendy
2012-02-06 21:12 ` Generating plot with org-babel-R Riccardo Romoli
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