* Exporting text
@ 2014-01-26 19:31 Peter Davis
2014-01-26 22:14 ` Bastien
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From: Peter Davis @ 2014-01-26 19:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Well, I don't know how messed up my org-mode installation is, but in addition to my problems with LaTeX, even text exporting fails. When I try C-c C-e t A, I get:
Symbol's value as variable is void: org-drawers
Any clues what the problem might be?
Thanks!
-pd
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* Re: Exporting text
2014-01-26 19:31 Exporting text Peter Davis
@ 2014-01-26 22:14 ` Bastien
2014-01-27 15:05 ` Peter Davis
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From: Bastien @ 2014-01-26 22:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Davis; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi Peter,
Peter Davis <pfd@pfdstudio.com> writes:
> Well, I don't know how messed up my org-mode installation is, but in
> addition to my problems with LaTeX, even text exporting fails. When I
> try C-c C-e t A, I get:
>
> Symbol's value as variable is void: org-drawers
>
> Any clues what the problem might be?
You don't give us a lot to chew on :)
How did you install Org?
I suggest you install Org through git, as explained in the manual.
Don't forget to ~$ make autoloads or just ~$ make
HTH,
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* Re: Exporting text
2014-01-26 22:14 ` Bastien
@ 2014-01-27 15:05 ` Peter Davis
2014-01-27 16:19 ` Peter Davis
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From: Peter Davis @ 2014-01-27 15:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:14:28PM +0100, Bastien wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Peter Davis <pfd@pfdstudio.com> writes:
>
> > Well, I don't know how messed up my org-mode installation is, but in
> > addition to my problems with LaTeX, even text exporting fails. When I
> > try C-c C-e t A, I get:
> >
> > Symbol's value as variable is void: org-drawers
> >
> > Any clues what the problem might be?
>
> You don't give us a lot to chew on :)
Sorry.
> How did you install Org?
Org 7.something came with the OS X emacs 24.3.1 that I installed. In
November, I installed org 8 using git. Earlier this month, I installed
the 1/4/2014 update using the emacs package installer. I'm guessing
that last was what screwed me up.
> I suggest you install Org through git, as explained in the manual.
>
> Don't forget to ~$ make autoloads or just ~$ make
>
I'll try re-installing via git.
Thanks!
-pd
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* Re: Exporting text
2014-01-27 15:05 ` Peter Davis
@ 2014-01-27 16:19 ` Peter Davis
2014-01-27 16:31 ` Peter Davis
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From: Peter Davis @ 2014-01-27 16:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:29AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote:
>
> > I suggest you install Org through git, as explained in the manual.
> >
> > Don't forget to ~$ make autoloads or just ~$ make
> >
>
> I'll try re-installing via git.
>
Ok, I tried making org from git, but I'm still having problems with
latex. When I start emacs, I get
Symbol's value as variable is void: org-latex-classes
NOTE that when I try locate library, I still see the elpa location
Library is file ~/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20131118/org.elc
Though I don't know how that's even getting in the load path. It's not
in my .emacs anywhere. Something else? Is desktop saving this
out-of-date load somehow?
GNU Emacs 24.3.1
org version 8.2.5g
Thanks!
-pd
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* Re: Exporting text
2014-01-27 16:19 ` Peter Davis
@ 2014-01-27 16:31 ` Peter Davis
2014-01-27 17:00 ` Nick Dokos
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From: Peter Davis @ 2014-01-27 16:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:19:09AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:29AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote:
> >
> > > I suggest you install Org through git, as explained in the manual.
> > >
> > > Don't forget to ~$ make autoloads or just ~$ make
> > >
> >
> > I'll try re-installing via git.
> >
>
> Ok, I tried making org from git, but I'm still having problems with
> latex. When I start emacs, I get
>
> Symbol's value as variable is void: org-latex-classes
>
> NOTE that when I try locate library, I still see the elpa location
Ok, so two other changes seem to have me working again:
1) move the elpa directory out of the way, and
2) explicitly load ox-latex
Now emacs starts up without errors, and I can export to latex without
errors.
However, the latex output looks like complete rubbish ... just
headers, overlapping each other vertically.
Thanks!
-pd
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* Re: Exporting text
2014-01-27 16:31 ` Peter Davis
@ 2014-01-27 17:00 ` Nick Dokos
2014-01-27 17:28 ` Peter Davis
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From: Nick Dokos @ 2014-01-27 17:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Peter Davis <pfd@pfdstudio.com> writes:
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:19:09AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:29AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote:
>> >
>> > > I suggest you install Org through git, as explained in the manual.
>> > >
>> > > Don't forget to ~$ make autoloads or just ~$ make
>> > >
>> >
>> > I'll try re-installing via git.
>> >
>>
>> Ok, I tried making org from git, but I'm still having problems with
>> latex. When I start emacs, I get
>>
>> Symbol's value as variable is void: org-latex-classes
>>
>> NOTE that when I try locate library, I still see the elpa location
>
> Ok, so two other changes seem to have me working again:
>
> 1) move the elpa directory out of the way, and
> 2) explicitly load ox-latex
>
> Now emacs starts up without errors, and I can export to latex without
> errors.
>
> However, the latex output looks like complete rubbish ... just
> headers, overlapping each other vertically.
>
Use a minimal .emacs, something like this (adjust path to suit your
situation):
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(add-to-list 'load-path "~/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp")
(require 'org-loaddefs)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
Then start emacs with
emacs -q -l /path/to/minimal/.emacs
Visit an org file and try latex exporting. If that works, then
your init file is screwed up. If it doesn't, then your org-mode
installation is screwed up.
Nick
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* Re: Exporting text
2014-01-27 17:00 ` Nick Dokos
@ 2014-01-27 17:28 ` Peter Davis
2014-01-27 18:06 ` Nick Dokos
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From: Peter Davis @ 2014-01-27 17:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:00:52PM -0500, Nick Dokos wrote:
>
> Use a minimal .emacs, something like this (adjust path to suit your
> situation):
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (add-to-list 'load-path "~/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp")
>
> (require 'org-loaddefs)
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
Thanks, Nick,
I had to use this to get all the org-... stuff defined:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(add-to-list 'load-path "~/src/org-mode/lisp")
(add-to-list 'load-path "~/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp")
;;(add-to-list 'load-path "~/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp")
(require 'org-loaddefs)
(require 'ox-latex)
(add-to-list 'org-latex-classes
'("org-article"
"\\documentclass{org-article}
[NO-DEFAULT-PACKAGES]
[PACKAGES]
[EXTRA]"
("\\section{%s}" . "\\section*{%s}")
("\\subsection{%s}" . "\\subsection*{%s}")
("\\subsubsection{%s}" . "\\subsubsection*{%s}")
("\\paragraph{%s}" . "\\paragraph*{%s}")
("\\subparagraph{%s}" . "\\subparagraph*{%s}")))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> Then start emacs with
>
> emacs -q -l /path/to/minimal/.emacs
>
> Visit an org file and try latex exporting. If that works, then
> your init file is screwed up. If it doesn't, then your org-mode
> installation is screwed up.
The output is still screwed up, in what appears to be the same way.
Interestingly, the .tex file looks ok, at least from a cursory glance,
but most of its contents don't show up on the PDF. I tried compiling
it from the command line, but it didn't understand \hyperset{...} and
perhaps some other things, so I'm assuming org prepends some
definitions.
The org file starts with:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
#+STARTUP: showeverything logdone
#+options: num:nil
#+OPTIONS: H:5 num:t toc:t \n:nil @:t ::t |:t ^:nil -:t f:t *:t <:t
#+LaTeX_CLASS: org-article
#+LaTeX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [article,letterpaper,times,12pt,listings-bw,microtype]
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
The org-article class is from:
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/examples/article-class.html
Thanks,
-pd
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* Re: Exporting text
2014-01-27 17:28 ` Peter Davis
@ 2014-01-27 18:06 ` Nick Dokos
2014-01-27 21:33 ` Peter Davis
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Nick Dokos @ 2014-01-27 18:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Peter Davis <pfd@pfdstudio.com> writes:
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:00:52PM -0500, Nick Dokos wrote:
>>
>> Use a minimal .emacs, something like this (adjust path to suit your
>> situation):
>>
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> (add-to-list 'load-path "~/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp")
>>
>> (require 'org-loaddefs)
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> Thanks, Nick,
>
> I had to use this to get all the org-... stuff defined:
>
> (add-to-list 'load-path "~/src/org-mode/lisp")
> (add-to-list 'load-path "~/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp")
> ;;(add-to-list 'load-path "~/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp")
> (require 'org-loaddefs)
> (require 'ox-latex)
> (add-to-list 'org-latex-classes
> '("org-article"
> "\\documentclass{org-article}
> [NO-DEFAULT-PACKAGES]
> [PACKAGES]
> [EXTRA]"
> ("\\section{%s}" . "\\section*{%s}")
> ("\\subsection{%s}" . "\\subsection*{%s}")
> ("\\subsubsection{%s}" . "\\subsubsection*{%s}")
> ("\\paragraph{%s}" . "\\paragraph*{%s}")
> ("\\subparagraph{%s}" . "\\subparagraph*{%s}")))
>
>
>>
>> Then start emacs with
>>
>> emacs -q -l /path/to/minimal/.emacs
>>
>> Visit an org file and try latex exporting. If that works, then
>> your init file is screwed up. If it doesn't, then your org-mode
>> installation is screwed up.
>
> The output is still screwed up, in what appears to be the same way.
>
> Interestingly, the .tex file looks ok, at least from a cursory glance,
> but most of its contents don't show up on the PDF. I tried compiling
> it from the command line, but it didn't understand \hyperset{...} and
> perhaps some other things, so I'm assuming org prepends some
> definitions.
>
AFAIK, the .tex file is (or should be) self-contained. Org has nothing
further to say about it. OTOH, if the org-article class uses special
sauce you may need to install additional latex packages. But before
you do that...
> The org file starts with:
>
> #+STARTUP: showeverything logdone
> #+options: num:nil
> #+OPTIONS: H:5 num:t toc:t \n:nil @:t ::t |:t ^:nil -:t f:t *:t <:t
> #+LaTeX_CLASS: org-article
> #+LaTeX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [article,letterpaper,times,12pt,listings-bw,microtype]
>
...what happens if you replace org-article with just plain boring old
article?
> The org-article class is from:
>
> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/examples/article-class.html
>
TL;DR
It may be that the org-article class is busted. Or it may be that it
needs additional latex packages installed.
Nick
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* Re: Exporting text
2014-01-27 18:06 ` Nick Dokos
@ 2014-01-27 21:33 ` Peter Davis
2014-01-27 22:09 ` Nick Dokos
2014-01-28 1:41 ` Thomas S. Dye
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From: Peter Davis @ 2014-01-27 21:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 01:06:53PM -0500, Nick Dokos wrote:
>
> ...what happens if you replace org-article with just plain boring old
> article?
>
Yeah, that worked. Unfortunately, though, I didn't get the Times font
I was after.
Actually, Times was just going to be a stepping stone to what I really
want ... a) sans-serif headings and b) Palatino as the base font.
I'd welcome any suggestions on how to achieve those.
Thanks!
-pd
--
----
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The Tech Curmudgeon
www.techcurmudgeon.com
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* Re: Exporting text
2014-01-27 21:33 ` Peter Davis
@ 2014-01-27 22:09 ` Nick Dokos
2014-01-27 23:37 ` Peter Davis
2014-01-28 1:41 ` Thomas S. Dye
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From: Nick Dokos @ 2014-01-27 22:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Peter Davis <pfd@pfdstudio.com> writes:
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 01:06:53PM -0500, Nick Dokos wrote:
>>
>> ...what happens if you replace org-article with just plain boring old
>> article?
>>
>
> Yeah, that worked. Unfortunately, though, I didn't get the Times font
> I was after.
>
The fact that it worked however says that the org-article class is
the culprit.
> Actually, Times was just going to be a stepping stone to what I really
> want ... a) sans-serif headings and b) Palatino as the base font.
>
> I'd welcome any suggestions on how to achieve those.
>
Why were you using org-article in the first place? Was it supposed to
help with the font choices? Bear in mind that I know nothing about
org-article.
So you have a choice to make: either fix org-article and continue using
it or throw it away and find some other way to do what you want.
For example, all you have to do to get Times is
#+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{times}
Getting finer control should also be possible using basic latex
techniques. Whether that's a "better" way to go is of course
debatable: it depends on a lot of variables.
Nick
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* Re: Exporting text
2014-01-27 22:09 ` Nick Dokos
@ 2014-01-27 23:37 ` Peter Davis
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From: Peter Davis @ 2014-01-27 23:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nick Dokos; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 05:09:02PM -0500, Nick Dokos wrote:
>
> Why were you using org-article in the first place? Was it supposed to
> help with the font choices? Bear in mind that I know nothing about
> org-article.
I found org-article when trying to find out how to control fonts,
etc. Basically, I have my own LaTeX template I use when
hand-constructing documents, and I was hoping to be able to use those
same settings when org creates a LaTeX document for me. I thought
org-article would give me that degree of control, but it probably
hasn't been updated since some prior version of org (based on the
variable names), and so is probably broken.
>
> So you have a choice to make: either fix org-article and continue using
> it or throw it away and find some other way to do what you want.
>
> For example, all you have to do to get Times is
>
> #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{times}
>
> Getting finer control should also be possible using basic latex
> techniques. Whether that's a "better" way to go is of course
> debatable: it depends on a lot of variables.
Since most of these settings I'll want to use in *all* my documents,
putting all the parameters in each org file would be pretty
tedious. I'll keep looking for a more elegant solution. I'll be happy
to post here when I find something (that works!)
Thank you!
-pd
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* Re: Exporting text
2014-01-27 21:33 ` Peter Davis
2014-01-27 22:09 ` Nick Dokos
@ 2014-01-28 1:41 ` Thomas S. Dye
2014-01-28 1:58 ` Peter Davis
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From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2014-01-28 1:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Davis; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Aloha Peter,
Peter Davis <pfd@pfdstudio.com> writes:
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 01:06:53PM -0500, Nick Dokos wrote:
>>
>> ...what happens if you replace org-article with just plain boring old
>> article?
>>
>
> Yeah, that worked. Unfortunately, though, I didn't get the Times font
> I was after.
>
> Actually, Times was just going to be a stepping stone to what I really
> want ... a) sans-serif headings and b) Palatino as the base font.
>
> I'd welcome any suggestions on how to achieve those.
The Koma scripts for LaTeX use sans-serif headings. Try this:
#+name: koma-article
#+header: :results silent
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(require 'ox-latex)
(add-to-list 'org-latex-classes
'("koma-article"
"\\documentclass{scrartcl}
\\usepackage{microtype}
\\usepackage{tgtermes}
\\usepackage[scale=.9]{tgheros}
\\usepackage{tgcursor}"
("\\section{%s}" . "\\section*{%s}")
("\\subsection{%s}" . "\\subsection*{%s}")
("\\subsubsection{%s}" . "\\subsubsection*{%s}")
("\\paragraph{%s}" . "\\paragraph*{%s}")
("\\subparagraph{%s}" . "\\subparagraph*{%s}")))
#+end_src
This uses the beautiful TeX-Gyre fonts. I haven't checked if they have a
Palatino clone--if so, I'd be inclined to use it. If not, then you'll
want to replace tgtermes with mathpazo and give a bit more leading with
\\linespread{1.05}.
You can put this code block in your local library of Babel and then load
it on a buffer-local basis, like this:
# Local Variables:
# eval: (org-sbe "koma-article")
# End:
Beware of org-sbe, which used to be just sbe. You might need something
like this:
# eval: (and (fboundp 'org-sbe) (not (fboundp 'sbe)) (fset 'sbe 'org-sbe))
hth,
Tom
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* Re: Exporting text
2014-01-28 1:41 ` Thomas S. Dye
@ 2014-01-28 1:58 ` Peter Davis
2014-01-28 3:06 ` Thomas S. Dye
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Peter Davis @ 2014-01-28 1:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 03:41:29PM -1000, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
> Aloha Peter,
Aloha!
>
> The Koma scripts for LaTeX use sans-serif headings. Try this:
Excellent! Thank you, Thomas!
-pd
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* Re: Exporting text
2014-01-28 1:58 ` Peter Davis
@ 2014-01-28 3:06 ` Thomas S. Dye
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2014-01-28 3:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Davis; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Aloha Peter,
Peter Davis <pfd@pfdstudio.com> writes:
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 03:41:29PM -1000, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
>> Aloha Peter,
>
> Aloha!
>
>>
>> The Koma scripts for LaTeX use sans-serif headings. Try this:
>
> Excellent! Thank you, Thomas!
The Tex-Gyre Palatino font is Pagella, \\usepackage{tgpagella}.
All the best,
Tom
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