* Exporting text @ 2014-01-26 19:31 Peter Davis 2014-01-26 22:14 ` Bastien 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Peter Davis @ 2014-01-26 19:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Well, I don't know how messed up my org-mode installation is, but in addition to my problems with LaTeX, even text exporting fails. When I try C-c C-e t A, I get: Symbol's value as variable is void: org-drawers Any clues what the problem might be? Thanks! -pd -- ---- Peter Davis The Tech Curmudgeon www.techcurmudgeon.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Exporting text 2014-01-26 19:31 Exporting text Peter Davis @ 2014-01-26 22:14 ` Bastien 2014-01-27 15:05 ` Peter Davis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2014-01-26 22:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Peter Davis; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hi Peter, Peter Davis <pfd@pfdstudio.com> writes: > Well, I don't know how messed up my org-mode installation is, but in > addition to my problems with LaTeX, even text exporting fails. When I > try C-c C-e t A, I get: > > Symbol's value as variable is void: org-drawers > > Any clues what the problem might be? You don't give us a lot to chew on :) How did you install Org? I suggest you install Org through git, as explained in the manual. Don't forget to ~$ make autoloads or just ~$ make HTH, -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Exporting text 2014-01-26 22:14 ` Bastien @ 2014-01-27 15:05 ` Peter Davis 2014-01-27 16:19 ` Peter Davis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Peter Davis @ 2014-01-27 15:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:14:28PM +0100, Bastien wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Peter Davis <pfd@pfdstudio.com> writes: > > > Well, I don't know how messed up my org-mode installation is, but in > > addition to my problems with LaTeX, even text exporting fails. When I > > try C-c C-e t A, I get: > > > > Symbol's value as variable is void: org-drawers > > > > Any clues what the problem might be? > > You don't give us a lot to chew on :) Sorry. > How did you install Org? Org 7.something came with the OS X emacs 24.3.1 that I installed. In November, I installed org 8 using git. Earlier this month, I installed the 1/4/2014 update using the emacs package installer. I'm guessing that last was what screwed me up. > I suggest you install Org through git, as explained in the manual. > > Don't forget to ~$ make autoloads or just ~$ make > I'll try re-installing via git. Thanks! -pd -- ---- Peter Davis The Tech Curmudgeon www.techcurmudgeon.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Exporting text 2014-01-27 15:05 ` Peter Davis @ 2014-01-27 16:19 ` Peter Davis 2014-01-27 16:31 ` Peter Davis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Peter Davis @ 2014-01-27 16:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:29AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: > > > I suggest you install Org through git, as explained in the manual. > > > > Don't forget to ~$ make autoloads or just ~$ make > > > > I'll try re-installing via git. > Ok, I tried making org from git, but I'm still having problems with latex. When I start emacs, I get Symbol's value as variable is void: org-latex-classes NOTE that when I try locate library, I still see the elpa location Library is file ~/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20131118/org.elc Though I don't know how that's even getting in the load path. It's not in my .emacs anywhere. Something else? Is desktop saving this out-of-date load somehow? GNU Emacs 24.3.1 org version 8.2.5g Thanks! -pd -- ---- Peter Davis The Tech Curmudgeon www.techcurmudgeon.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Exporting text 2014-01-27 16:19 ` Peter Davis @ 2014-01-27 16:31 ` Peter Davis 2014-01-27 17:00 ` Nick Dokos 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Peter Davis @ 2014-01-27 16:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:19:09AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:29AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: > > > > > I suggest you install Org through git, as explained in the manual. > > > > > > Don't forget to ~$ make autoloads or just ~$ make > > > > > > > I'll try re-installing via git. > > > > Ok, I tried making org from git, but I'm still having problems with > latex. When I start emacs, I get > > Symbol's value as variable is void: org-latex-classes > > NOTE that when I try locate library, I still see the elpa location Ok, so two other changes seem to have me working again: 1) move the elpa directory out of the way, and 2) explicitly load ox-latex Now emacs starts up without errors, and I can export to latex without errors. However, the latex output looks like complete rubbish ... just headers, overlapping each other vertically. Thanks! -pd -- ---- Peter Davis The Tech Curmudgeon www.techcurmudgeon.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Exporting text 2014-01-27 16:31 ` Peter Davis @ 2014-01-27 17:00 ` Nick Dokos 2014-01-27 17:28 ` Peter Davis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Nick Dokos @ 2014-01-27 17:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Peter Davis <pfd@pfdstudio.com> writes: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:19:09AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:29AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: >> > >> > > I suggest you install Org through git, as explained in the manual. >> > > >> > > Don't forget to ~$ make autoloads or just ~$ make >> > > >> > >> > I'll try re-installing via git. >> > >> >> Ok, I tried making org from git, but I'm still having problems with >> latex. When I start emacs, I get >> >> Symbol's value as variable is void: org-latex-classes >> >> NOTE that when I try locate library, I still see the elpa location > > Ok, so two other changes seem to have me working again: > > 1) move the elpa directory out of the way, and > 2) explicitly load ox-latex > > Now emacs starts up without errors, and I can export to latex without > errors. > > However, the latex output looks like complete rubbish ... just > headers, overlapping each other vertically. > Use a minimal .emacs, something like this (adjust path to suit your situation): --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (add-to-list 'load-path "~/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp") (require 'org-loaddefs) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Then start emacs with emacs -q -l /path/to/minimal/.emacs Visit an org file and try latex exporting. If that works, then your init file is screwed up. If it doesn't, then your org-mode installation is screwed up. Nick ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Exporting text 2014-01-27 17:00 ` Nick Dokos @ 2014-01-27 17:28 ` Peter Davis 2014-01-27 18:06 ` Nick Dokos 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Peter Davis @ 2014-01-27 17:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:00:52PM -0500, Nick Dokos wrote: > > Use a minimal .emacs, something like this (adjust path to suit your > situation): > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > (add-to-list 'load-path "~/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp") > > (require 'org-loaddefs) > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Thanks, Nick, I had to use this to get all the org-... stuff defined: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (add-to-list 'load-path "~/src/org-mode/lisp") (add-to-list 'load-path "~/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp") ;;(add-to-list 'load-path "~/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp") (require 'org-loaddefs) (require 'ox-latex) (add-to-list 'org-latex-classes '("org-article" "\\documentclass{org-article} [NO-DEFAULT-PACKAGES] [PACKAGES] [EXTRA]" ("\\section{%s}" . "\\section*{%s}") ("\\subsection{%s}" . "\\subsection*{%s}") ("\\subsubsection{%s}" . "\\subsubsection*{%s}") ("\\paragraph{%s}" . "\\paragraph*{%s}") ("\\subparagraph{%s}" . "\\subparagraph*{%s}"))) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > Then start emacs with > > emacs -q -l /path/to/minimal/.emacs > > Visit an org file and try latex exporting. If that works, then > your init file is screwed up. If it doesn't, then your org-mode > installation is screwed up. The output is still screwed up, in what appears to be the same way. Interestingly, the .tex file looks ok, at least from a cursory glance, but most of its contents don't show up on the PDF. I tried compiling it from the command line, but it didn't understand \hyperset{...} and perhaps some other things, so I'm assuming org prepends some definitions. The org file starts with: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- #+STARTUP: showeverything logdone #+options: num:nil #+OPTIONS: H:5 num:t toc:t \n:nil @:t ::t |:t ^:nil -:t f:t *:t <:t #+LaTeX_CLASS: org-article #+LaTeX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [article,letterpaper,times,12pt,listings-bw,microtype] --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- The org-article class is from: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/examples/article-class.html Thanks, -pd -- ---- Peter Davis The Tech Curmudgeon www.techcurmudgeon.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Exporting text 2014-01-27 17:28 ` Peter Davis @ 2014-01-27 18:06 ` Nick Dokos 2014-01-27 21:33 ` Peter Davis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Nick Dokos @ 2014-01-27 18:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Peter Davis <pfd@pfdstudio.com> writes: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:00:52PM -0500, Nick Dokos wrote: >> >> Use a minimal .emacs, something like this (adjust path to suit your >> situation): >> >> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >> (add-to-list 'load-path "~/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp") >> >> (require 'org-loaddefs) >> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > Thanks, Nick, > > I had to use this to get all the org-... stuff defined: > > (add-to-list 'load-path "~/src/org-mode/lisp") > (add-to-list 'load-path "~/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp") > ;;(add-to-list 'load-path "~/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp") > (require 'org-loaddefs) > (require 'ox-latex) > (add-to-list 'org-latex-classes > '("org-article" > "\\documentclass{org-article} > [NO-DEFAULT-PACKAGES] > [PACKAGES] > [EXTRA]" > ("\\section{%s}" . "\\section*{%s}") > ("\\subsection{%s}" . "\\subsection*{%s}") > ("\\subsubsection{%s}" . "\\subsubsection*{%s}") > ("\\paragraph{%s}" . "\\paragraph*{%s}") > ("\\subparagraph{%s}" . "\\subparagraph*{%s}"))) > > >> >> Then start emacs with >> >> emacs -q -l /path/to/minimal/.emacs >> >> Visit an org file and try latex exporting. If that works, then >> your init file is screwed up. If it doesn't, then your org-mode >> installation is screwed up. > > The output is still screwed up, in what appears to be the same way. > > Interestingly, the .tex file looks ok, at least from a cursory glance, > but most of its contents don't show up on the PDF. I tried compiling > it from the command line, but it didn't understand \hyperset{...} and > perhaps some other things, so I'm assuming org prepends some > definitions. > AFAIK, the .tex file is (or should be) self-contained. Org has nothing further to say about it. OTOH, if the org-article class uses special sauce you may need to install additional latex packages. But before you do that... > The org file starts with: > > #+STARTUP: showeverything logdone > #+options: num:nil > #+OPTIONS: H:5 num:t toc:t \n:nil @:t ::t |:t ^:nil -:t f:t *:t <:t > #+LaTeX_CLASS: org-article > #+LaTeX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [article,letterpaper,times,12pt,listings-bw,microtype] > ...what happens if you replace org-article with just plain boring old article? > The org-article class is from: > > http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/examples/article-class.html > TL;DR It may be that the org-article class is busted. Or it may be that it needs additional latex packages installed. Nick ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Exporting text 2014-01-27 18:06 ` Nick Dokos @ 2014-01-27 21:33 ` Peter Davis 2014-01-27 22:09 ` Nick Dokos 2014-01-28 1:41 ` Thomas S. Dye 0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Peter Davis @ 2014-01-27 21:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 01:06:53PM -0500, Nick Dokos wrote: > > ...what happens if you replace org-article with just plain boring old > article? > Yeah, that worked. Unfortunately, though, I didn't get the Times font I was after. Actually, Times was just going to be a stepping stone to what I really want ... a) sans-serif headings and b) Palatino as the base font. I'd welcome any suggestions on how to achieve those. Thanks! -pd -- ---- Peter Davis The Tech Curmudgeon www.techcurmudgeon.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Exporting text 2014-01-27 21:33 ` Peter Davis @ 2014-01-27 22:09 ` Nick Dokos 2014-01-27 23:37 ` Peter Davis 2014-01-28 1:41 ` Thomas S. Dye 1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Nick Dokos @ 2014-01-27 22:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Peter Davis <pfd@pfdstudio.com> writes: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 01:06:53PM -0500, Nick Dokos wrote: >> >> ...what happens if you replace org-article with just plain boring old >> article? >> > > Yeah, that worked. Unfortunately, though, I didn't get the Times font > I was after. > The fact that it worked however says that the org-article class is the culprit. > Actually, Times was just going to be a stepping stone to what I really > want ... a) sans-serif headings and b) Palatino as the base font. > > I'd welcome any suggestions on how to achieve those. > Why were you using org-article in the first place? Was it supposed to help with the font choices? Bear in mind that I know nothing about org-article. So you have a choice to make: either fix org-article and continue using it or throw it away and find some other way to do what you want. For example, all you have to do to get Times is #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{times} Getting finer control should also be possible using basic latex techniques. Whether that's a "better" way to go is of course debatable: it depends on a lot of variables. Nick ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Exporting text 2014-01-27 22:09 ` Nick Dokos @ 2014-01-27 23:37 ` Peter Davis 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Peter Davis @ 2014-01-27 23:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nick Dokos; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 05:09:02PM -0500, Nick Dokos wrote: > > Why were you using org-article in the first place? Was it supposed to > help with the font choices? Bear in mind that I know nothing about > org-article. I found org-article when trying to find out how to control fonts, etc. Basically, I have my own LaTeX template I use when hand-constructing documents, and I was hoping to be able to use those same settings when org creates a LaTeX document for me. I thought org-article would give me that degree of control, but it probably hasn't been updated since some prior version of org (based on the variable names), and so is probably broken. > > So you have a choice to make: either fix org-article and continue using > it or throw it away and find some other way to do what you want. > > For example, all you have to do to get Times is > > #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{times} > > Getting finer control should also be possible using basic latex > techniques. Whether that's a "better" way to go is of course > debatable: it depends on a lot of variables. Since most of these settings I'll want to use in *all* my documents, putting all the parameters in each org file would be pretty tedious. I'll keep looking for a more elegant solution. I'll be happy to post here when I find something (that works!) Thank you! -pd -- ---- Peter Davis The Tech Curmudgeon www.techcurmudgeon.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Exporting text 2014-01-27 21:33 ` Peter Davis 2014-01-27 22:09 ` Nick Dokos @ 2014-01-28 1:41 ` Thomas S. Dye 2014-01-28 1:58 ` Peter Davis 1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2014-01-28 1:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Peter Davis; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Aloha Peter, Peter Davis <pfd@pfdstudio.com> writes: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 01:06:53PM -0500, Nick Dokos wrote: >> >> ...what happens if you replace org-article with just plain boring old >> article? >> > > Yeah, that worked. Unfortunately, though, I didn't get the Times font > I was after. > > Actually, Times was just going to be a stepping stone to what I really > want ... a) sans-serif headings and b) Palatino as the base font. > > I'd welcome any suggestions on how to achieve those. The Koma scripts for LaTeX use sans-serif headings. Try this: #+name: koma-article #+header: :results silent #+begin_src emacs-lisp (require 'ox-latex) (add-to-list 'org-latex-classes '("koma-article" "\\documentclass{scrartcl} \\usepackage{microtype} \\usepackage{tgtermes} \\usepackage[scale=.9]{tgheros} \\usepackage{tgcursor}" ("\\section{%s}" . "\\section*{%s}") ("\\subsection{%s}" . "\\subsection*{%s}") ("\\subsubsection{%s}" . "\\subsubsection*{%s}") ("\\paragraph{%s}" . "\\paragraph*{%s}") ("\\subparagraph{%s}" . "\\subparagraph*{%s}"))) #+end_src This uses the beautiful TeX-Gyre fonts. I haven't checked if they have a Palatino clone--if so, I'd be inclined to use it. If not, then you'll want to replace tgtermes with mathpazo and give a bit more leading with \\linespread{1.05}. You can put this code block in your local library of Babel and then load it on a buffer-local basis, like this: # Local Variables: # eval: (org-sbe "koma-article") # End: Beware of org-sbe, which used to be just sbe. You might need something like this: # eval: (and (fboundp 'org-sbe) (not (fboundp 'sbe)) (fset 'sbe 'org-sbe)) hth, Tom -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Exporting text 2014-01-28 1:41 ` Thomas S. Dye @ 2014-01-28 1:58 ` Peter Davis 2014-01-28 3:06 ` Thomas S. Dye 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Peter Davis @ 2014-01-28 1:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 03:41:29PM -1000, Thomas S. Dye wrote: > Aloha Peter, Aloha! > > The Koma scripts for LaTeX use sans-serif headings. Try this: Excellent! Thank you, Thomas! -pd -- ---- Peter Davis The Tech Curmudgeon www.techcurmudgeon.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Exporting text 2014-01-28 1:58 ` Peter Davis @ 2014-01-28 3:06 ` Thomas S. Dye 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2014-01-28 3:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Peter Davis; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Aloha Peter, Peter Davis <pfd@pfdstudio.com> writes: > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 03:41:29PM -1000, Thomas S. Dye wrote: >> Aloha Peter, > > Aloha! > >> >> The Koma scripts for LaTeX use sans-serif headings. Try this: > > Excellent! Thank you, Thomas! The Tex-Gyre Palatino font is Pagella, \\usepackage{tgpagella}. All the best, Tom -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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