* [org-clock] default clock for non-org-mode buffers
@ 2010-02-10 17:49 Austin Frank
2010-02-12 14:58 ` Bernt Hansen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Austin Frank @ 2010-02-10 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
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Hello--
Sometimes I want to clock in but I'm not in an org-mode buffer. Would
it be possible to either provide a function or hook that uses the
current buffer to add a selection to the destinations provided by
`org-clock-select-task'?
I can see two possible functions I would add to an
`org-clock-prepare-selections-hook'. First, a version with remember
that would create a new task to clock into based on the current buffer
#v+
(defun au-clock-in-to-new-task ()
(if (fboundp org-remember)
;; use one of my remember templates that creates a TODO entry under
;; the heading "uncategorized tasks". it includes a link to the
;; current buffer
(org-remember nil (kbd "t")))
;;
;; then either clock in to the task right away,
;; or add the new task to the selection buffer somehow
;; ...
)
#v-
And second, a version that lets you browse to an existing task.
#v+
;; I think this one doesn't work as written, but only because I don't
;; know what I am doing
(defun au-clock-in-go-to-task ()
;; use the org-refile interface to go to an existing task
(org-refile t)
;;
;; then do something with link to buffer we clocked in on
;; ...
)
#v-
Does a hook or some other way of introducing this functionality already
exist? If not, would other people use it?
Thanks,
/au
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread* Re: [org-clock] default clock for non-org-mode buffers
2010-02-10 17:49 [org-clock] default clock for non-org-mode buffers Austin Frank
@ 2010-02-12 14:58 ` Bernt Hansen
2010-02-18 9:09 ` Sébastien Vauban
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Bernt Hansen @ 2010-02-12 14:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Austin Frank; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Austin Frank <austin.frank@gmail.com> writes:
> Hello--
>
> Sometimes I want to clock in but I'm not in an org-mode buffer. Would
> it be possible to either provide a function or hook that uses the
> current buffer to add a selection to the destinations provided by
> `org-clock-select-task'?
>
> I can see two possible functions I would add to an
> `org-clock-prepare-selections-hook'. First, a version with remember
> that would create a new task to clock into based on the current buffer
>
> #v+
> (defun au-clock-in-to-new-task ()
> (if (fboundp org-remember)
> ;; use one of my remember templates that creates a TODO entry under
> ;; the heading "uncategorized tasks". it includes a link to the
> ;; current buffer
> (org-remember nil (kbd "t")))
> ;;
> ;; then either clock in to the task right away,
> ;; or add the new task to the selection buffer somehow
> ;; ...
> )
> #v-
>
> And second, a version that lets you browse to an existing task.
>
> #v+
> ;; I think this one doesn't work as written, but only because I don't
> ;; know what I am doing
> (defun au-clock-in-go-to-task ()
> ;; use the org-refile interface to go to an existing task
> (org-refile t)
> ;;
> ;; then do something with link to buffer we clocked in on
> ;; ...
> )
> #v-
>
> Does a hook or some other way of introducing this functionality already
> exist? If not, would other people use it?
I have a couple of tasks I clock in regularly from anywhere using f9-o
and f9-m (for organization and mail). These clock in the task based on
ID.
All of my remember buffers start the clock using the remember hooks. I
- start remember
- clock in via hook
- enter stuff
- C-c C-c
- clock out via hook
This remember task is now in the list. I have F11 bound to functions to
make clocking in and visiting clocked items easy.
HTH,
Bernt
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(add-hook 'remember-mode-hook 'org-clock-in 'append)
(add-hook 'org-remember-before-finalize-hook 'bh/clock-in-interrupted-task)
(defun bh/clock-in-interrupted-task ()
"Clock in the interrupted task if there is one"
(interactive)
(if (and (not org-clock-resolving-clocks-due-to-idleness)
(marker-buffer org-clock-marker)
(marker-buffer org-clock-interrupted-task))
(org-with-point-at org-clock-interrupted-task
(org-clock-in nil))
(org-clock-out)))
(global-set-key (kbd "<f11>") 'org-clock-goto)
(global-set-key (kbd "C-<f11>") 'org-clock-in)
(global-set-key (kbd "<f9> m") 'bh/clock-in-read-mail-and-news-task)
(global-set-key (kbd "<f9> o") 'bh/clock-in-organization-task)
(global-set-key (kbd "<f9> O") 'org-clock-out)
(defun bh/clock-in-task-by-id (id)
"Clock in a task by id"
(require 'org-id)
(save-restriction
(widen)
(org-with-point-at (org-id-find id 'marker)
(org-clock-in nil))))
(defun bh/clock-in-organization-task ()
(interactive)
(bh/clock-in-task-by-id "437c2cde-fbf0-491f-92ba-51bae487b338"))
(defun bh/clock-in-read-mail-and-news-task ()
(interactive)
(bh/clock-in-task-by-id "85c2e69b-6f37-4236-8896-4f7dd86047c1"))
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread* Re: [org-clock] default clock for non-org-mode buffers
2010-02-12 14:58 ` Bernt Hansen
@ 2010-02-18 9:09 ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-02-18 17:14 ` Bernt Hansen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Sébastien Vauban @ 2010-02-18 9:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ
Hi Bernt,
Bernt Hansen wrote:
> I have a couple of tasks I clock in regularly from anywhere using f9-o and
> f9-m (for organization and mail). These clock in the task based on ID.
>
> All of my remember buffers start the clock using the remember hooks. I
> - start remember
> - clock in via hook
> - enter stuff
> - C-c C-c
> - clock out via hook
>
> This remember task is now in the list. I have F11 bound to functions to make
> clocking in and visiting clocked items easy.
I've just tried your process, and I find it really, really nice.
Though, I have a few questions about it, or about how I can do to make it
better suit my needs or particularities.
Let me explain.
I clock-in the task "Read Emails and News". I find a nice post, from which I
wanna keep a copy (it was the case with yours, for example), at least of some
part of it. I select a region, and call remember with the template:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
("Org-mode" ?o
"* %^{Title}\n\n %i\n\n From the %a"
"~/Public/Documentation-on-Org-mode.txt"
"Documentation on Org-mode")
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
(BTW, `.txt' files are Org-mode files in my config)
What is annoying now is that the clock will be stopped for task "Emails and
News" while I really have not changed of activity. And I don't want to clock
in anything special for the simple copy I made of a news posting. Here, I
would expect the started clocked to go on as if nothing happened -- ignoring
the "clock switching stuff" for that particular remember template.
This is completely different if I am interrupted by the phone (client call) or
by a mail which requires a long response to a client (and needs to be
correctly tracked). For these, I will also make use of the remember templates,
such as:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
("Note" ?n
"* %U %?\n\n %i\n From the %a"
nil
"Notes")
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
and I want the standard "Read Emails and News" clock to be temporarily
stopped, while the call will be tracked appropriately for a client project.
So, is there a way to merge those 2 points of view into one functionality?
Hope my text is clear enough for you all to understand what I mean.
Best regards and Thanks for having shared!
Seb
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread* Re: [org-clock] default clock for non-org-mode buffers
2010-02-18 9:09 ` Sébastien Vauban
@ 2010-02-18 17:14 ` Bernt Hansen
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From: Bernt Hansen @ 2010-02-18 17:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sébastien Vauban; +Cc: public-emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ
Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf-geNee64TY+gS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
writes:
> Hi Bernt,
>
> Bernt Hansen wrote:
>> I have a couple of tasks I clock in regularly from anywhere using f9-o and
>> f9-m (for organization and mail). These clock in the task based on ID.
>>
>> All of my remember buffers start the clock using the remember hooks. I
>> - start remember
>> - clock in via hook
>> - enter stuff
>> - C-c C-c
>> - clock out via hook
>>
>> This remember task is now in the list. I have F11 bound to functions to make
>> clocking in and visiting clocked items easy.
>
> I've just tried your process, and I find it really, really nice.
>
> Though, I have a few questions about it, or about how I can do to make it
> better suit my needs or particularities.
>
> Let me explain.
>
> I clock-in the task "Read Emails and News". I find a nice post, from which I
> wanna keep a copy (it was the case with yours, for example), at least of some
> part of it. I select a region, and call remember with the template:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> ("Org-mode" ?o
> "* %^{Title}\n\n %i\n\n From the %a"
> "~/Public/Documentation-on-Org-mode.txt"
> "Documentation on Org-mode")
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> (BTW, `.txt' files are Org-mode files in my config)
>
> What is annoying now is that the clock will be stopped for task "Emails and
> News" while I really have not changed of activity. And I don't want to clock
> in anything special for the simple copy I made of a news posting. Here, I
> would expect the started clocked to go on as if nothing happened -- ignoring
> the "clock switching stuff" for that particular remember template.
>
> This is completely different if I am interrupted by the phone (client call) or
> by a mail which requires a long response to a client (and needs to be
> correctly tracked). For these, I will also make use of the remember templates,
> such as:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> ("Note" ?n
> "* %U %?\n\n %i\n From the %a"
> nil
> "Notes")
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> and I want the standard "Read Emails and News" clock to be temporarily
> stopped, while the call will be tracked appropriately for a client project.
>
> So, is there a way to merge those 2 points of view into one functionality?
>
> Hope my text is clear enough for you all to understand what I mean.
I used to have a special remember hook to only clock in remember
templates with a :CLOCK-IN: marker in the text. I've since simplified
my use of remember and just clock everything -- I don't have to remember
to clock it - it just happens.
For your case I would just hit F9-SPC (mapped to
bh/clock-in-interrupted-task) to switch the clock back after entering
the remember template and again after saving it (since saving it
switches back to the remember task clock)
ie.
- clock stuff
- enter remember mode (clock switches)
- F9-SPC (switch back)
- enter your remember details (take as long as you like)
- C-c C-c (clock switches again, so you need to switch back)
- F9-SPC (switch back)
The hook could probably be made smart enough not to clock in the newly
saved remember task.
I just ignore that though - I just let it clock my time creating the
remember note - usually that's less than a minute anyway so the clock
drawer ends up empty. (I remove zero clocks)
HTH,
Bernt
PS. I almost missed this mail since it wasn't addressed to me.
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