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* install and info
@ 2008-10-08 13:20 Richard Riley
  2008-10-08 13:31 ` R: " Giovanni Ridolfi
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Richard Riley @ 2008-10-08 13:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: org-mode


There might be an inconsistency in the install process. Well, on my
debian system.

In the Makefile we have

,----
| # Where local software is found
| prefix=/usr/local
| 
| # Where local lisp files go.
| lispdir = $(prefix)/share/emacs/site-lisp
| 
| # Where info files go.
| infodir = $(prefix)/info
`----

Now I dont pretend to even begin to understand how the info system works
but a "sudo make install-info" does not work because (a) it puts the
file into /usr/local/info and my system appears to expect it in
/usr/local/share/info. In addition the install info command appears to
be broken:

,----
| if [ ! -d /usr/local/info ]; then mkdir -p /usr/local/info; else true; fi ;
| cp -p doc/org /usr/local/info
| install-info --info-file=doc/org --info-dir=/usr/local/info
| Usage: install-info [<options> ...] [--] <filename>
`----

Hopefully someone can shed some light. I think it used to work but am
not sure if I was picking up a local info file before.


-- 
We are becoming the servants in thought, as in action, of the machine we have created to serve us.  ~John Kenneth Galbraith

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• * R: install and info
    2008-10-08 13:20 install and info Richard Riley
  @ 2008-10-08 13:31 ` Giovanni Ridolfi
    2008-10-08 13:41   ` Richard Riley
    2008-10-08 13:34 ` Xiao-Yong Jin
    2008-10-09  5:45 ` Carsten Dominik
    2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
  From: Giovanni Ridolfi @ 2008-10-08 13:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
    To: org-mode
  
  --- Mer 8/10/08, Richard Riley <rileyrgdev@googlemail.com> ha scritto:
  > There might be an inconsistency in the install process.
  > Well, on my  debian system.
  > 
  > In the Makefile we have
  > 
  > ,----
  > | # Where local software is found
  > | prefix=/usr/local
  > | 
  > | # Where local lisp files go.
  > | lispdir = $(prefix)/share/emacs/site-lisp
  > | 
  > | # Where info files go.
  > | infodir = $(prefix)/info
  > `----
  > 
  > Now I dont pretend to even begin to understand how the info
  > system works  but a "sudo make install-info" does not work
  > because (a) it puts the
  > file into /usr/local/info and my system appears to expect
  > it in
  > /usr/local/share/info. 
  
  Richard, 
  the section of the Makefile you are referring to begins with:
  ##----------------------------------------------------------------------
  ##  YOU MUST EDIT THE FOLLOWING LINES 
  ##----------------------------------------------------------------------
  
  so, please, modify your paths accordingly, 
  or download a quite recent version of org 
  from the Debian repository (for both testing, 6.05, and sid 6.06)
  
  cheers,
  
  Giovanni
  
  
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  Trucchi, novità e scrivi la tua opinione.
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• • * Re: R: install and info
      2008-10-08 13:31 ` R: " Giovanni Ridolfi
    @ 2008-10-08 13:41   ` Richard Riley
      0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
    From: Richard Riley @ 2008-10-08 13:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
      To: emacs-orgmode
    
    Giovanni Ridolfi <giovanni.ridolfi@yahoo.it> writes:
    
    > --- Mer 8/10/08, Richard Riley <rileyrgdev@googlemail.com> ha scritto:
    >> There might be an inconsistency in the install process.
    >> Well, on my  debian system.
    >> 
    >> In the Makefile we have
    >> 
    >> ,----
    >> | # Where local software is found
    >> | prefix=/usr/local
    >> | 
    >> | # Where local lisp files go.
    >> | lispdir = $(prefix)/share/emacs/site-lisp
    >> | 
    >> | # Where info files go.
    >> | infodir = $(prefix)/info
    >> `----
    >> 
    >> Now I dont pretend to even begin to understand how the info
    >> system works  but a "sudo make install-info" does not work
    >> because (a) it puts the
    >> file into /usr/local/info and my system appears to expect
    >> it in
    >> /usr/local/share/info. 
    >
    > Richard, 
    > the section of the Makefile you are referring to begins with:
    > ##----------------------------------------------------------------------
    > ##  YOU MUST EDIT THE FOLLOWING LINES 
    > ##----------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > so, please, modify your paths accordingly, 
    
    I guess I was requesting (although didnt make it clear) some auto way of
    detecting the target OS. Certainly if there is a site elisp I would
    expect there to be a site info too - so there is still possibly an
    inconsistency in the defaults.
    
    
    > or download a quite recent version of org 
    > from the Debian repository (for both testing, 6.05, and sid 6.06)
    
    Unfortunately they are broken for my setup so I use the recent versions
    which are no 6.09 area.
    
    
    >
    > cheers,
    >
    > Giovanni
    >
    >
    >       Scopri il blog di Yahoo! Mail:
    > Trucchi, novità e scrivi la tua opinione.
    > http://www.ymailblogit.com/blog
    >
    >
    >
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• * Re: install and info
    2008-10-08 13:20 install and info Richard Riley
    2008-10-08 13:31 ` R: " Giovanni Ridolfi
  @ 2008-10-08 13:34 ` Xiao-Yong Jin
    2008-10-09  5:45 ` Carsten Dominik
    2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
  From: Xiao-Yong Jin @ 2008-10-08 13:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
    To: emacs-orgmode
  
  Richard Riley <rileyrgdev@googlemail.com> writes:
  
  > There might be an inconsistency in the install process. Well, on my
  > debian system.
  >
  > In the Makefile we have
  >
  > ,----
  > | # Where local software is found
  > | prefix=/usr/local
  > | 
  > | # Where local lisp files go.
  > | lispdir = $(prefix)/share/emacs/site-lisp
  > | 
  > | # Where info files go.
  > | infodir = $(prefix)/info
  > `----
  >
  > Now I dont pretend to even begin to understand how the info system works
  > but a "sudo make install-info" does not work because (a) it puts the
  > file into /usr/local/info and my system appears to expect it in
  > /usr/local/share/info. 
  
  I changed infodir by myself.
  
  > In addition the install info command appears to be broken:
  >
  > ,----
  > | if [ ! -d /usr/local/info ]; then mkdir -p /usr/local/info; else true; fi ;
  > | cp -p doc/org /usr/local/info
  > | install-info --info-file=doc/org --info-dir=/usr/local/info
  > | Usage: install-info [<options> ...] [--] <filename>
  > `----
  >
  > Hopefully someone can shed some light. I think it used to work but am
  > not sure if I was picking up a local info file before.
  
  It always worked for me.  This debian system probably has a
  different install-info program as most of other system does.
  On mine system:
  
  install-info (GNU texinfo) 4.13
  Usage: install-info [OPTION]... [INFO-FILE [DIR-FILE]]
  
  -- 
      c/*    __o/*
      <\     * (__
      */\      <
  
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• * Re: install and info
    2008-10-08 13:20 install and info Richard Riley
    2008-10-08 13:31 ` R: " Giovanni Ridolfi
    2008-10-08 13:34 ` Xiao-Yong Jin
  @ 2008-10-09  5:45 ` Carsten Dominik
    2008-10-09 12:41   ` Bernt Hansen
    2008-10-10 12:22   ` Sivaram Neelakantan
    2 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
  From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-10-09  5:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
    To: Richard Riley; +Cc: org-mode
  
  Hi everyone,
  
  I'd be happy to change the default to
  
      infodir = $(prefix)/share/info
  
  
  if this is a better default for most systems.  Is it better?  So could  
  people on
  different systems out there please check where the standard info  
  directory is located?
  
  Thanks.
  
  - Carsten
  
  On Oct 8, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Richard Riley wrote:
  
  >
  > There might be an inconsistency in the install process. Well, on my
  > debian system.
  >
  > In the Makefile we have
  >
  > ,----
  > | # Where local software is found
  > | prefix=/usr/local
  > |
  > | # Where local lisp files go.
  > | lispdir = $(prefix)/share/emacs/site-lisp
  > |
  > | # Where info files go.
  > | infodir = $(prefix)/info
  > `----
  >
  > Now I dont pretend to even begin to understand how the info system  
  > works
  > but a "sudo make install-info" does not work because (a) it puts the
  > file into /usr/local/info and my system appears to expect it in
  > /usr/local/share/info. In addition the install info command appears to
  > be broken:
  >
  > ,----
  > | if [ ! -d /usr/local/info ]; then mkdir -p /usr/local/info; else  
  > true; fi ;
  > | cp -p doc/org /usr/local/info
  > | install-info --info-file=doc/org --info-dir=/usr/local/info
  > | Usage: install-info [<options> ...] [--] <filename>
  > `----
  >
  > Hopefully someone can shed some light. I think it used to work but am
  > not sure if I was picking up a local info file before.
  >
  >
  > -- 
  > We are becoming the servants in thought, as in action, of the  
  > machine we have created to serve us.  ~John Kenneth Galbraith
  >
  >
  > _______________________________________________
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  > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
  > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
  > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
  
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• • * Re: install and info
      2008-10-09  5:45 ` Carsten Dominik
    @ 2008-10-09 12:41   ` Bernt Hansen
      2008-10-09 13:08     ` Richard Riley
      2008-10-10 12:22   ` Sivaram Neelakantan
      1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
    From: Bernt Hansen @ 2008-10-09 12:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
      To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: org-mode, Richard Riley
    
    On three systems I have access to the info files are in /usr/share/info
    
      - Debian
      - FreeBSD
      - Ubuntu
    
    -Bernt
    
    Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
    
    > Hi everyone,
    >
    > I'd be happy to change the default to
    >
    >    infodir = $(prefix)/share/info
    >
    >
    > if this is a better default for most systems.  Is it better?  So could
    > people on
    > different systems out there please check where the standard info
    > directory is located?
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > - Carsten
    >
    > On Oct 8, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Richard Riley wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> There might be an inconsistency in the install process. Well, on my
    >> debian system.
    >>
    >> In the Makefile we have
    >>
    >> ,----
    >> | # Where local software is found
    >> | prefix=/usr/local
    >> |
    >> | # Where local lisp files go.
    >> | lispdir = $(prefix)/share/emacs/site-lisp
    >> |
    >> | # Where info files go.
    >> | infodir = $(prefix)/info
    >> `----
    >>
    >> Now I dont pretend to even begin to understand how the info system
    >> works
    >> but a "sudo make install-info" does not work because (a) it puts the
    >> file into /usr/local/info and my system appears to expect it in
    >> /usr/local/share/info. In addition the install info command appears to
    >> be broken:
    >>
    >> ,----
    >> | if [ ! -d /usr/local/info ]; then mkdir -p /usr/local/info; else
    >> true; fi ;
    >> | cp -p doc/org /usr/local/info
    >> | install-info --info-file=doc/org --info-dir=/usr/local/info
    >> | Usage: install-info [<options> ...] [--] <filename>
    >> `----
    >>
    >> Hopefully someone can shed some light. I think it used to work but am
    >> not sure if I was picking up a local info file before.
    >>
    >>
    >> -- 
    >> We are becoming the servants in thought, as in action, of the
    >> machine we have created to serve us.  ~John Kenneth Galbraith
    >>
    >>
    >> _______________________________________________
    >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
    >> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
    >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
    >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
    >
    >
    >
    > _______________________________________________
    > Emacs-orgmode mailing list
    > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
    > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
    > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
    
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  • • * Re: install and info
        2008-10-09 12:41   ` Bernt Hansen
      @ 2008-10-09 13:08     ` Richard Riley
        2008-10-09 13:30       ` Bernt Hansen
        2008-10-09 14:16       ` Xiao-Yong Jin
        0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
      From: Richard Riley @ 2008-10-09 13:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
        To: Bernt Hansen; +Cc: org-mode, Richard Riley
      
      Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> writes:
      
      > On three systems I have access to the info files are in /usr/share/info
      >
      >   - Debian
      >   - FreeBSD
      >   - Ubuntu
      
      Debian and Ubuntu should be the same I would think since Ubunti is
      Debian based.
      
      But there is an org which ships with emacs. I would expect the info file
      from that to be there.
      
      If one installs from CVS/git should it not be in /usr/local/share/info ?
      
      I really am not sure personally and frequently have had issues with
      other packages and the installation and location of Info files.
      
      
      
      >
      > -Bernt
      >
      > Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
      >
      >> Hi everyone,
      >>
      >> I'd be happy to change the default to
      >>
      >>    infodir = $(prefix)/share/info
      >>
      >>
      >> if this is a better default for most systems.  Is it better?  So could
      >> people on
      >> different systems out there please check where the standard info
      >> directory is located?
      >>
      >> Thanks.
      >>
      >> - Carsten
      >>
      >> On Oct 8, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Richard Riley wrote:
      >>
      >>>
      >>> There might be an inconsistency in the install process. Well, on my
      >>> debian system.
      >>>
      >>> In the Makefile we have
      >>>
      >>> ,----
      >>> | # Where local software is found
      >>> | prefix=/usr/local
      >>> |
      >>> | # Where local lisp files go.
      >>> | lispdir = $(prefix)/share/emacs/site-lisp
      >>> |
      >>> | # Where info files go.
      >>> | infodir = $(prefix)/info
      >>> `----
      >>>
      >>> Now I dont pretend to even begin to understand how the info system
      >>> works
      >>> but a "sudo make install-info" does not work because (a) it puts the
      >>> file into /usr/local/info and my system appears to expect it in
      >>> /usr/local/share/info. In addition the install info command appears to
      >>> be broken:
      >>>
      >>> ,----
      >>> | if [ ! -d /usr/local/info ]; then mkdir -p /usr/local/info; else
      >>> true; fi ;
      >>> | cp -p doc/org /usr/local/info
      >>> | install-info --info-file=doc/org --info-dir=/usr/local/info
      >>> | Usage: install-info [<options> ...] [--] <filename>
      >>> `----
      >>>
      >>> Hopefully someone can shed some light. I think it used to work but am
      >>> not sure if I was picking up a local info file before.
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> -- 
      >>> We are becoming the servants in thought, as in action, of the
      >>> machine we have created to serve us.  ~John Kenneth Galbraith
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> _______________________________________________
      >>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
      >>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
      >>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
      >>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> _______________________________________________
      >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
      >> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
      >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
      >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
      
      -- 
      The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a dog.  The man will be there to feed the dog.  The dog will be there to keep the man from touching the equipment.  ~Warren G. Bennis
      
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    • • * Re: install and info
          2008-10-09 13:08     ` Richard Riley
        @ 2008-10-09 13:30       ` Bernt Hansen
          2008-10-09 14:16       ` Xiao-Yong Jin
          1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
        From: Bernt Hansen @ 2008-10-09 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
          To: Richard Riley; +Cc: org-mode
        
        Richard Riley <rileyrgdev@googlemail.com> writes:
        
        > Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> writes:
        >
        >> On three systems I have access to the info files are in /usr/share/info
        >>
        >>   - Debian
        >>   - FreeBSD
        >>   - Ubuntu
        >
        > Debian and Ubuntu should be the same I would think since Ubunti is
        > Debian based.
        
        Yes they should be but I thought I'd list it for completeness :)
        
        I've never messed with info files before (from an installation point of
        view) but I was under the impression that the top level 'dir' file needs
        to be edited to include new documentation in the tree and that file
        lives in whatever the standard info directory is on your system.  I
        think you can create new documentation in other locations but you still
        need to reference it from the 'dir' file if you want it to be easy to
        locate.
        
        >
        > But there is an org which ships with emacs. I would expect the info file
        > from that to be there.
        >
        > If one installs from CVS/git should it not be in /usr/local/share/info ?
        >
        > I really am not sure personally and frequently have had issues with
        > other packages and the installation and location of Info files.
        
        Me either.  I'm just trying to provide additional information in case
        it's useful.
        
        -Bernt
        
        >>
        >> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
        >>
        >>> Hi everyone,
        >>>
        >>> I'd be happy to change the default to
        >>>
        >>>    infodir = $(prefix)/share/info
        >>>
        >>>
        >>> if this is a better default for most systems.  Is it better?  So could
        >>> people on
        >>> different systems out there please check where the standard info
        >>> directory is located?
        >>>
        >>> Thanks.
        >>>
        >>> - Carsten
        >>>
        >>> On Oct 8, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Richard Riley wrote:
        >>>
        >>>>
        >>>> There might be an inconsistency in the install process. Well, on my
        >>>> debian system.
        >>>>
        >>>> In the Makefile we have
        >>>>
        >>>> ,----
        >>>> | # Where local software is found
        >>>> | prefix=/usr/local
        >>>> |
        >>>> | # Where local lisp files go.
        >>>> | lispdir = $(prefix)/share/emacs/site-lisp
        >>>> |
        >>>> | # Where info files go.
        >>>> | infodir = $(prefix)/info
        >>>> `----
        >>>>
        >>>> Now I dont pretend to even begin to understand how the info system
        >>>> works
        >>>> but a "sudo make install-info" does not work because (a) it puts the
        >>>> file into /usr/local/info and my system appears to expect it in
        >>>> /usr/local/share/info. In addition the install info command appears to
        >>>> be broken:
        >>>>
        >>>> ,----
        >>>> | if [ ! -d /usr/local/info ]; then mkdir -p /usr/local/info; else
        >>>> true; fi ;
        >>>> | cp -p doc/org /usr/local/info
        >>>> | install-info --info-file=doc/org --info-dir=/usr/local/info
        >>>> | Usage: install-info [<options> ...] [--] <filename>
        >>>> `----
        >>>>
        >>>> Hopefully someone can shed some light. I think it used to work but am
        >>>> not sure if I was picking up a local info file before.
        >>>>
        >>>>
        
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      • * Re: Re: install and info
          2008-10-09 13:08     ` Richard Riley
          2008-10-09 13:30       ` Bernt Hansen
        @ 2008-10-09 14:16       ` Xiao-Yong Jin
          2008-10-09 14:29         ` Richard Riley
          1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
        From: Xiao-Yong Jin @ 2008-10-09 14:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
          To: emacs-orgmode
        
        Richard Riley <rileyrgdev@googlemail.com> writes:
        
        > Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> writes:
        >
        >> On three systems I have access to the info files are in /usr/share/info
        >>
        >>   - Debian
        >>   - FreeBSD
        >>   - Ubuntu
        >
        > Debian and Ubuntu should be the same I would think since Ubunti is
        > Debian based.
        >
        > But there is an org which ships with emacs. I would expect the info file
        > from that to be there.
        >
        > If one installs from CVS/git should it not be in /usr/local/share/info ?
        >
        > I really am not sure personally and frequently have had issues with
        > other packages and the installation and location of Info files.
        >
        
        This is the real problem.  I guess most of the package
        managers are not happy with conflicting files from different
        packages.  Gentoo, archlinux and FreeBSD are all not happy
        with this.  So I just decided to install info files some
        where in my home directory and prepend that to my $INFOPATH.
        
        Xiao-Yong
        -- 
            c/*    __o/*
            <\     * (__
            */\      <
        
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      • • * Re: Re: install and info
            2008-10-09 14:16       ` Xiao-Yong Jin
          @ 2008-10-09 14:29         ` Richard Riley
            2008-10-09 16:03           ` Xiao-Yong Jin
            0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
          From: Richard Riley @ 2008-10-09 14:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
            To: emacs-orgmode
          
          Xiao-Yong Jin <xj2106@columbia.edu> writes:
          
          > Richard Riley <rileyrgdev@googlemail.com> writes:
          >
          >> Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> writes:
          >>
          >>> On three systems I have access to the info files are in /usr/share/info
          >>>
          >>>   - Debian
          >>>   - FreeBSD
          >>>   - Ubuntu
          >>
          >> Debian and Ubuntu should be the same I would think since Ubunti is
          >> Debian based.
          >>
          >> But there is an org which ships with emacs. I would expect the info file
          >> from that to be there.
          >>
          >> If one installs from CVS/git should it not be in /usr/local/share/info ?
          >>
          >> I really am not sure personally and frequently have had issues with
          >> other packages and the installation and location of Info files.
          >>
          >
          > This is the real problem.  I guess most of the package
          > managers are not happy with conflicting files from different
          > packages.  Gentoo, archlinux and FreeBSD are all not happy
          > with this.  So I just decided to install info files some
          > where in my home directory and prepend that to my $INFOPATH.
          >
          > Xiao-Yong
          
          Did you have a local "dir" file too or put in a link into one of the
          others?
          
          I suspect this is getting a little OT now and more "How does info work"
          :-; But it's reassuring to hear that others scratch their heads a little
          too. I have lots of unresolved dir links since I removed (uninstalled
          properly) emacs 22 and 21 and went for CVS Emacs 23 and that only adds
          to my info woes ...
          
          -- 
          Technology... the knack of so arranging the world that we don't have to experience it.  ~Max Frisch
          
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        • • * Re: Re: install and info
              2008-10-09 14:29         ` Richard Riley
            @ 2008-10-09 16:03           ` Xiao-Yong Jin
              0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
            From: Xiao-Yong Jin @ 2008-10-09 16:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
              To: emacs-orgmode
            
            Richard Riley <rileyrgdev@googlemail.com> writes:
            
            > Xiao-Yong Jin <xj2106@columbia.edu> writes:
            >
            >> Richard Riley <rileyrgdev@googlemail.com> writes:
            >>
            >>> Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> writes:
            >>>
            >>>> On three systems I have access to the info files are in /usr/share/info
            >>>>
            >>>>   - Debian
            >>>>   - FreeBSD
            >>>>   - Ubuntu
            >>>
            >>> Debian and Ubuntu should be the same I would think since Ubunti is
            >>> Debian based.
            >>>
            >>> But there is an org which ships with emacs. I would expect the info file
            >>> from that to be there.
            >>>
            >>> If one installs from CVS/git should it not be in /usr/local/share/info ?
            >>>
            >>> I really am not sure personally and frequently have had issues with
            >>> other packages and the installation and location of Info files.
            >>>
            >>
            >> This is the real problem.  I guess most of the package
            >> managers are not happy with conflicting files from different
            >> packages.  Gentoo, archlinux and FreeBSD are all not happy
            >> with this.  So I just decided to install info files some
            >> where in my home directory and prepend that to my $INFOPATH.
            >>
            >> Xiao-Yong
            >
            > Did you have a local "dir" file too or put in a link into one of the
            > others?
            
            Yes, I have a local "dir" file.  In my case,
            
            % echo $INFOPATH
            /home/jin/etc/info:
            
            % ls /home/jin/etc/info/
            dir  emacs-w3m-ja.info  emacs-w3m.info  emms  org
            
            >
            > I suspect this is getting a little OT now and more "How does info work"
            > :-; But it's reassuring to hear that others scratch their heads a little
            > too. I have lots of unresolved dir links since I removed (uninstalled
            > properly) emacs 22 and 21 and went for CVS Emacs 23 and that only adds
            > to my info woes ...
            
            As long as the file `dir' is in your $INFOPATH, it will be
            searched before the one(s) in your system.  And that's how I
            override the system's while keep the system happy.
            
            Xiao-Yong
            -- 
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  • * Re: install and info
      2008-10-09  5:45 ` Carsten Dominik
      2008-10-09 12:41   ` Bernt Hansen
    @ 2008-10-10 12:22   ` Sivaram Neelakantan
      1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
    From: Sivaram Neelakantan @ 2008-10-10 12:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
      To: emacs-orgmode
    
    Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
    
    > Hi everyone,
    >
    > I'd be happy to change the default to
    >
    >    infodir = $(prefix)/share/info
    >
    >
    > if this is a better default for most systems.  Is it better?  So could
    > people on different systems out there please check where the standard
    > info directory is located?
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > - Carsten
    >
    
    [...]
    
    On Windows, if you use unzip the Emacs binary under C:/ drive, the
    info folder is under C:/Emacs-22.3/ as c:/Emacs-22.3/info.
    
    
     sivaram
     -- 
    
    ^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread

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2008-10-08 13:41   ` Richard Riley
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2008-10-09  5:45 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-10-09 12:41   ` Bernt Hansen
2008-10-09 13:08     ` Richard Riley
2008-10-09 13:30       ` Bernt Hansen
2008-10-09 14:16       ` Xiao-Yong Jin
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2008-10-09 16:03           ` Xiao-Yong Jin
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