* Installation via el-get: info not added correctly
@ 2012-07-27 4:06 Markus Baden
2012-07-27 6:03 ` Achim Gratz
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From: Markus Baden @ 2012-07-27 4:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
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Hi,
I'm relatively new to both (the awesome) org-mode, el-get and emacs, so I
think I just describe what problem I encountered when installing org-mode
via el-get. Hopefully someone can point me into the right direction where
to look (el-get or org-mode) in order to fix that problem.
I just installed org-mode via the recipe provided with the current
development version of el-get [1]. Org-Mode is installed correctly into
emacs.d/el-get/org-mode and the docs can be found in the doc subfolder. The
recipe [2] adds the doc to the info via the :info "doc" property. However,
when going to the info browser with C-h i the org-mode docs cannot be
found. In the doc subfolder there is a file called "org" (no filename
extension), which looks like the info file. After doing a "cp org org.info"
the org-mode info shows up in the info browser.
What do you think, is the recipe flawed, that is should it point to
"doc/org", or did the build process not build the org.info file correctly?
Best regards,
Markus
[1] https://github.com/dimitri/el-get/
[2] https://github.com/dimitri/el-get/blob/master/recipes/org-mode.rcp
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* Re: Installation via el-get: info not added correctly
2012-07-27 4:06 Installation via el-get: info not added correctly Markus Baden
@ 2012-07-27 6:03 ` Achim Gratz
2012-07-27 6:21 ` Markus Baden
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From: Achim Gratz @ 2012-07-27 6:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Markus Baden writes:
> I just installed org-mode via the recipe provided with the current
> development version of el-get [1]. Org-Mode is installed correctly
> into emacs.d/el-get/org-mode and the docs can be found in the doc
> subfolder. The recipe [2] adds the doc to the info via the :info "doc"
> property. However, when going to the info browser with C-h i the
> org-mode docs cannot be found. In the doc subfolder there is a file
> called "org" (no filename extension), which looks like the info file.
> After doing a "cp org org.info" the org-mode info shows up in the info
> browser.
El-get for whatever reason seems to think that all info files have a
".info" suffix, but they appear to never check if that assumption is
true. I don't understand how they set up the info tree further on from
looking at the sources. File a bug report for el-get I'd say.
The ".info" suffix has actually only been added quite recently with
Emacs 24.1.50 and info continues to work correctly without any suffix,
so I don't understand why el-get seemingly insists on it.
Regards,
Achim.
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* Re: Installation via el-get: info not added correctly
2012-07-27 6:03 ` Achim Gratz
@ 2012-07-27 6:21 ` Markus Baden
2012-07-28 18:13 ` Mike McLean
[not found] ` <CANid5Q56AHHDdKG_QD=+xPRLYCOqHJdBTkDrBHPWdGm-CdkJ0g@mail.gmail.com>
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From: Markus Baden @ 2012-07-27 6:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
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> > I just installed org-mode via the recipe provided with the current
> > development version of el-get [1]. Org-Mode is installed correctly
> > into emacs.d/el-get/org-mode and the docs can be found in the doc
> > subfolder. The recipe [2] adds the doc to the info via the :info "doc"
> > property. However, when going to the info browser with C-h i the
> > org-mode docs cannot be found. In the doc subfolder there is a file
> > called "org" (no filename extension), which looks like the info file.
> > After doing a "cp org org.info" the org-mode info shows up in the info
> > browser.
>
> El-get for whatever reason seems to think that all info files have a
> ".info" suffix, but they appear to never check if that assumption is
> true. I don't understand how they set up the info tree further on from
> looking at the sources. File a bug report for el-get I'd say.
>
> The ".info" suffix has actually only been added quite recently with
> Emacs 24.1.50 and info continues to work correctly without any suffix,
> so I don't understand why el-get seemingly insists on it.
>
Thanks for the explanation. I filed an issue on github for that, see
https://github.com/dimitri/el-get/issues/821
Regards,
Markus
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* Re: Installation via el-get: info not added correctly
2012-07-27 6:03 ` Achim Gratz
2012-07-27 6:21 ` Markus Baden
@ 2012-07-28 18:13 ` Mike McLean
[not found] ` <CANid5Q56AHHDdKG_QD=+xPRLYCOqHJdBTkDrBHPWdGm-CdkJ0g@mail.gmail.com>
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From: Mike McLean @ 2012-07-28 18:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Achim Gratz
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On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> wrote:
> Markus Baden writes:
> > I just installed org-mode via the recipe provided with the current
> > development version of el-get [1]. Org-Mode is installed correctly
> > into emacs.d/el-get/org-mode and the docs can be found in the doc
> > subfolder. The recipe [2] adds the doc to the info via the :info "doc"
> > property. However, when going to the info browser with C-h i the
> > org-mode docs cannot be found. In the doc subfolder there is a file
> > called "org" (no filename extension), which looks like the info file.
> > After doing a "cp org org.info" the org-mode info shows up in the info
> > browser.
>
> El-get for whatever reason seems to think that all info files have a
> ".info" suffix, but they appear to never check if that assumption is
> true. I don't understand how they set up the info tree further on from
> looking at the sources. File a bug report for el-get I'd say.
>
Looking at this a bit this morning, I'm not sure that it is el-get (at
least alone) that is insisting on the .info suffix. The portion of elisp in
el-get that adds the .info suffix:
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(if (string= (substring infofile -5) ".info")
infofile
(concat infofile ".info"))
#+end_src
(Side note, I did try a work around,
https://github.com/SkydiveMike/el-get/commit/88920c84bbe4d814bae1e79cdda163315d8d8d24that
doesn't work).
Is only called if the ~dir~' file does not exist (and other conditions) and
as part of creating a command string for ~/usr/bin/install-info~. Since an
non-built (no execution of ~make~) Org mode Git clone has a ~dir~ file,
this code is never called.
I also don't believe that ~cp org org.info~ in
~$HOME/.emacs.d/el-get/org-mode/~ fixes things (I currently can't get the
correct info to display using that).
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* Re: Installation via el-get: info not added correctly
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@ 2012-07-29 19:43 ` Mike McLean
2012-07-29 20:07 ` Jude DaShiell
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Mike McLean @ 2012-07-29 19:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode Mode; +Cc: Achim Gratz
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On Jul 28, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Mike McLean wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> wrote:
> Markus Baden writes:
> > I just installed org-mode via the recipe provided with the current
> > development version of el-get [1]. Org-Mode is installed correctly
> > into emacs.d/el-get/org-mode and the docs can be found in the doc
> > subfolder. The recipe [2] adds the doc to the info via the :info "doc"
> > property. However, when going to the info browser with C-h i the
> > org-mode docs cannot be found. In the doc subfolder there is a file
> > called "org" (no filename extension), which looks like the info file.
> > After doing a "cp org org.info" the org-mode info shows up in the info
> > browser.
>
> El-get for whatever reason seems to think that all info files have a
> ".info" suffix, but they appear to never check if that assumption is
> true. I don't understand how they set up the info tree further on from
> looking at the sources. File a bug report for el-get I'd say.
>
> Looking at this a bit this morning, I'm not sure that it is el-get (at least alone) that is insisting on the .info suffix. The portion of elisp in el-get that adds the .info suffix:
>
> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
> (if (string= (substring infofile -5) ".info")
> infofile
> (concat infofile ".info"))
> #+end_src
>
> (Side note, I did try a work around, https://github.com/SkydiveMike/el-get/commit/88920c84bbe4d814bae1e79cdda163315d8d8d24 that doesn't work).
>
> Is only called if the ~dir~' file does not exist (and other conditions) and as part of creating a command string for ~/usr/bin/install-info~. Since an non-built (no execution of ~make~) Org mode Git clone has a ~dir~ file, this code is never called.
>
> I also don't believe that ~cp org org.info~ in ~$HOME/.emacs.d/el-get/org-mode/~ fixes things (I currently can't get the correct info to display using that).
After some more investigation, I don't think this is a bug with either Org or el-get. I had other issues with my Info path setups in my specific configuration (Emacs on OS X from http://emacsformacosx.com) that included an invalid build-directory artifact and more significantly always put the Emacs ``info'' directory as the first item in my ``Info-directory-list''. This meant that the built-in Org info would always supersede the info for my current version of Org (installed by el-get).
Once I resolved all of that, my Emacs Info now sees the correct version of Org info from el-get without needing to ``cp org org.info''.
More gory details at: https://github.com/dimitri/el-get/issues/821
Sorry for the noise.
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* Re: Installation via el-get: info not added correctly
2012-07-29 19:43 ` Mike McLean
@ 2012-07-29 20:07 ` Jude DaShiell
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jude DaShiell @ 2012-07-29 20:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mike McLean; +Cc: Achim Gratz, emacs-orgmode Mode
The file (1) command is available on some systems and makes guesses
about file formats to help users sort out unknown files. Maybe a for
loop in a script could find the info files and do so more reliably than
only checking a file's suffix. I think there's also a rather expensive
book available for sale called "the file formats book" and from those
I've talked to after they've had a chance to read it they think it's
worth the money.
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012, Mike McLean wrote:
>
> On Jul 28, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Mike McLean wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> wrote:
> > Markus Baden writes:
> > > I just installed org-mode via the recipe provided with the current
> > > development version of el-get [1]. Org-Mode is installed correctly
> > > into emacs.d/el-get/org-mode and the docs can be found in the doc
> > > subfolder. The recipe [2] adds the doc to the info via the :info "doc"
> > > property. However, when going to the info browser with C-h i the
> > > org-mode docs cannot be found. In the doc subfolder there is a file
> > > called "org" (no filename extension), which looks like the info file.
> > > After doing a "cp org org.info" the org-mode info shows up in the info
> > > browser.
> >
> > El-get for whatever reason seems to think that all info files have a
> > ".info" suffix, but they appear to never check if that assumption is
> > true. I don't understand how they set up the info tree further on from
> > looking at the sources. File a bug report for el-get I'd say.
> >
> > Looking at this a bit this morning, I'm not sure that it is el-get (at least alone) that is insisting on the .info suffix. The portion of elisp in el-get that adds the .info suffix:
> >
> > #+begin_src emacs-lisp
> > (if (string= (substring infofile -5) ".info")
> > infofile
> > (concat infofile ".info"))
> > #+end_src
> >
> > (Side note, I did try a work around, https://github.com/SkydiveMike/el-get/commit/88920c84bbe4d814bae1e79cdda163315d8d8d24 that doesn't work).
> >
> > Is only called if the ~dir~' file does not exist (and other conditions) and as part of creating a command string for ~/usr/bin/install-info~. Since an non-built (no execution of ~make~) Org mode Git clone has a ~dir~ file, this code is never called.
> >
> > I also don't believe that ~cp org org.info~ in ~$HOME/.emacs.d/el-get/org-mode/~ fixes things (I currently can't get the correct info to display using that).
>
> After some more investigation, I don't think this is a bug with either Org or el-get. I had other issues with my Info path setups in my specific configuration (Emacs on OS X from http://emacsformacosx.com) that included an invalid build-directory artifact and more significantly always put the Emacs ``info'' directory as the first item in my ``Info-directory-list''. This meant that the built-in Org info would always supersede the info for my current version of Org (installed by el-get).
>
> Once I resolved all of that, my Emacs Info now sees the correct version of Org info from el-get without needing to ``cp org org.info''.
>
> More gory details at: https://github.com/dimitri/el-get/issues/821
>
> Sorry for the noise.
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