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* orgmode 9.6
@ 2022-12-15 23:02 Paul Schlesinger
  2022-12-16  6:06 ` Ihor Radchenko
  2022-12-16  6:47 ` Jean Louis
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Paul Schlesinger @ 2022-12-15 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Orgmode

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Using the included orgmode 9.52 on emacs 28.1 for much of my daily work,
university professor.  At the end of the day I quit emacs, saving all my
work for the day in a very large folder tree that includes all my working
files and this is rsync'ed onto a usb disk that is a backup and is
sync'ed to a disk on my home computer and I have redundant backups. About
one month ago upgraded to orgmode  9.6 using elpa  and about a week ago I
started getting an encoding warning when i would tell emacs I wanted to
quit. The warning indicated the offending characters but they were in an
unformatted buffer on the screen and I became fatigued trying to correct
them.  If I save the file as raw-text I preserve all the org formatting and
structure.  I upgraded ny home computer to 9.6 and this started happening
on it also.  I have returned my current computers to the included org 9.52
and the problem has stopped.  Can anyone report a similar issue, a cause
and a solution.
Thank you

Paul H. Schlesinger MD, PhD
Washington University School of Medicine
Don't let your models of reality become confused with reality itself.

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* Re: orgmode 9.6
  2022-12-15 23:02 orgmode 9.6 Paul Schlesinger
@ 2022-12-16  6:06 ` Ihor Radchenko
  2022-12-16  6:47 ` Jean Louis
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-12-16  6:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paul Schlesinger; +Cc: Orgmode

Paul Schlesinger <phschlesinger@gmail.com> writes:

> ...  At the end of the day I quit emacs, saving all my
> work for the day in a very large folder tree that includes all my working
> files and this is rsync'ed onto a usb disk that is a backup and is
> sync'ed to a disk on my home computer and I have redundant backups. About
> one month ago upgraded to orgmode  9.6 using elpa  and about a week ago I
> started getting an encoding warning when i would tell emacs I wanted to
> quit. The warning indicated the offending characters but they were in an
> unformatted buffer on the screen and I became fatigued trying to correct
> them.  If I save the file as raw-text I preserve all the org formatting and
> structure.  I upgraded ny home computer to 9.6 and this started happening
> on it also.

Thanks for reporting!

Did you notice which file this happened to?
If you did, does opening only that file, editing it, and closing trigger
the issue?

We need more information to understand what is happening.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>


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* Re: orgmode 9.6
  2022-12-15 23:02 orgmode 9.6 Paul Schlesinger
  2022-12-16  6:06 ` Ihor Radchenko
@ 2022-12-16  6:47 ` Jean Louis
  2022-12-16 21:28   ` Paul Schlesinger
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jean Louis @ 2022-12-16  6:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paul Schlesinger; +Cc: Orgmode

* Paul Schlesinger <phschlesinger@gmail.com> [2022-12-16 02:04]:
> started getting an encoding warning when i would tell emacs I wanted to
> quit. The warning indicated the offending characters but they were in an
> unformatted buffer on the screen and I became fatigued trying to correct
> them.  

That will happen not only in the Org mode.

What do you see on screen, which are the problematic characters?



-- 
Jean

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* Re: orgmode 9.6
  2022-12-16  6:47 ` Jean Louis
@ 2022-12-16 21:28   ` Paul Schlesinger
  2022-12-17 23:59     ` Jean Louis
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Paul Schlesinger @ 2022-12-16 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paul Schlesinger, Orgmode

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Just to remind you the encoding warning does not occur with the same files
using the emacs 28.1 with orgmode 9.52 included.  The characters that
trigger the warning are ones that are not found in UTF-8 and since I do a
lot of editing of web documents and do not correct them until final
output.  orgmode has ignored them in the past (BEFORE 9.6) and  I am happy
with that as long as the files do not become corrupted.  Can one set the
encoding in orgmode as not having to configure file in real time would be
helpful.
tx Paul
Paul H. Schlesinger MD, PhD
Washington University School of Medicine
Don't let your models of reality become confused with reality itself.


On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 12:48 AM Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:

> * Paul Schlesinger <phschlesinger@gmail.com> [2022-12-16 02:04]:
> > started getting an encoding warning when i would tell emacs I wanted to
> > quit. The warning indicated the offending characters but they were in an
> > unformatted buffer on the screen and I became fatigued trying to correct
> > them.
>
> That will happen not only in the Org mode.
>
> What do you see on screen, which are the problematic characters?
>
>
>
> --
> Jean
>
> Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns:
> https://www.fsf.org/campaigns
>
> In support of Richard M. Stallman
> https://stallmansupport.org/
>

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* Re: orgmode 9.6
  2022-12-16 21:28   ` Paul Schlesinger
@ 2022-12-17 23:59     ` Jean Louis
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jean Louis @ 2022-12-17 23:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paul Schlesinger; +Cc: Orgmode

* Paul Schlesinger <phschlesinger@gmail.com> [2022-12-17 00:31]:
> Just to remind you the encoding warning does not occur with the same files
> using the emacs 28.1 with orgmode 9.52 included.  The characters that
> trigger the warning are ones that are not found in UTF-8 and since I do a
> lot of editing of web documents and do not correct them until final
> output.  orgmode has ignored them in the past (BEFORE 9.6) and  I am happy
> with that as long as the files do not become corrupted.  Can one set the
> encoding in orgmode as not having to configure file in real time would be
> helpful.

I remember that I was solving those issues by other editor that
automatically recognized those wrong characters and offered me to
normalize it.

I believe that editor was the `mousepad'.

Here is what I suggest to you:

1. Make a copy of the file that has the errors.

2. Try opening it with the `mousepad' and see if it is offering you
correction.

3. Save it with the `mousepad'.

4. Open it with Emacs and see if it works at that point.

-- 
Jean

Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns:
https://www.fsf.org/campaigns

In support of Richard M. Stallman
https://stallmansupport.org/


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