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From: Shiyuan <gshy2014@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Remove the build-in orgmode
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 23:05:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOm4EMtWKnFMwjuwaqz+c0br6qJVbqR1FEM-V7G0soCireo2-w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a99pntxp.fsf@gmail.com>

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Thanks for the reply and the tips.

Just add another small tip to this thread:
`-Q`/`-q` skips ELPA load path. So we need to manually add the ELPA load
path to the debugorg.el. It looks like that by default the ELPA org-mode
load path is ~/.emacs.d/org/$DATE


On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com> wrote:

> Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> writes:
>
> > Nick Dokos writes:
> >> I did that in the past (presumably for reasons similar to Thorsten's)
> >> and I don't bother any longer (overriding is simple enough as you point
> >> out), but the question  still bugs me: what's so bad about it?
> >
> > The reason it is bad is that parts of the code have already leaked out
> > from the org/ directory via custom-load and autoloads and that's going
> > to break things in the least convenient moment – for instance when you
> > try to hunt down bugs via "-Q".  There simply is no way to remove the
> > builtin Org from Emacs other than at build time and it's best not to
> > pretend otherwise.  Some day Emacs might actually treat its built-in
> > packages as actual packages so that you can de-activate or replace them,
> > but I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
> That sounds reasonable enough, but somehow that least convenient moment
> never happens, while I remember *many* such moments when I still had more
> than one Org on my machine ... but maybe I just don't huntdown bugs via
> -Q often enough.
>
> --
> cheers,
> Thorsten
>
>
>

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      reply	other threads:[~2014-06-11  6:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-01 22:22 Remove the build-in orgmode Shiyuan
2014-06-02  6:46 ` Brady Trainor
2014-06-02  7:18   ` Rainer M Krug
2014-06-02  7:26 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-06-06 14:09   ` Bastien
2014-06-06 16:01     ` Nick Dokos
2014-06-06 18:12       ` Achim Gratz
2014-06-07  5:57         ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-06-11  6:05           ` Shiyuan [this message]

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