* Exporting blocks of text completely verbatim
@ 2017-02-09 14:11 Vicente Vera
2017-02-09 14:27 ` John Kitchin
2017-02-09 19:19 ` Charles C. Berry
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From: Vicente Vera @ 2017-02-09 14:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
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Hello. This discussion
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2017-02/msg00163.html
points out that Org tables are converted to HTML tables when exporting
through "ox-md". Leaving Markdown-related issues aside, I've stumbled
upon this problem a while back.
It is suggested that wrapping the table within a "#+(BEGIN|END)_EXPORT
md" should leave it as-is in the exported document but that is not the
case. The table gets converted to HTML anyway.
When skimming through the Org manual I found that
"#+(BEGIN|END)_EXPORT back-end" blocks are used to export text *only*
for the specified back-end. This appears in the ASCII back-end
documentation (does it work like this for others back-ends?).
In a general level, is there a way to keep blocks of text completely
unmodified (without indentation also) on export?
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* Re: Exporting blocks of text completely verbatim
2017-02-09 14:11 Exporting blocks of text completely verbatim Vicente Vera
@ 2017-02-09 14:27 ` John Kitchin
2017-02-09 16:27 ` Vicente Vera
2017-02-09 19:19 ` Charles C. Berry
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From: John Kitchin @ 2017-02-09 14:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vicente Vera; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
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Isn't
#+BEGIN_EXAMPLE
Long block
#+END_EXAMPLE
what you want?
John
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Department of Chemical Engineering
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On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Vicente Vera <vicentemvp@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello. This discussion
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2017-02/msg00163.html
> points out that Org tables are converted to HTML tables when exporting
> through "ox-md". Leaving Markdown-related issues aside, I've stumbled
> upon this problem a while back.
>
> It is suggested that wrapping the table within a "#+(BEGIN|END)_EXPORT
> md" should leave it as-is in the exported document but that is not the
> case. The table gets converted to HTML anyway.
>
> When skimming through the Org manual I found that
> "#+(BEGIN|END)_EXPORT back-end" blocks are used to export text *only*
> for the specified back-end. This appears in the ASCII back-end
> documentation (does it work like this for others back-ends?).
>
> In a general level, is there a way to keep blocks of text completely
> unmodified (without indentation also) on export?
>
>
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* Re: Exporting blocks of text completely verbatim
2017-02-09 14:27 ` John Kitchin
@ 2017-02-09 16:27 ` Vicente Vera
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From: Vicente Vera @ 2017-02-09 16:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: John Kitchin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
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Hmm nope. Still some modifications are introduced depending on the
back-end. Example blocks are generally indented.
There are cases where those changes makes sense such as in HTML export
but for ASCII and ASCII-based markups truly verbatim blocks would make
sense I believe.
For example, one could edit an Org document and keep some text blocks
completely unchanged so later another processing tool (such as Pandoc)
could deal with them accordingly.
2017-02-09 14:27 GMT+00:00 John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>:
> Isn't
>
> #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE
> Long block
> #+END_EXAMPLE
>
> what you want?
>
> John
>
> -----------------------------------
> Professor John Kitchin
> Doherty Hall A207F
> Department of Chemical Engineering
> Carnegie Mellon University
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> 412-268-7803
> @johnkitchin
> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Vicente Vera <vicentemvp@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello. This discussion
>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2017-02/msg00163.html
>> points out that Org tables are converted to HTML tables when exporting
>> through "ox-md". Leaving Markdown-related issues aside, I've stumbled
>> upon this problem a while back.
>>
>> It is suggested that wrapping the table within a "#+(BEGIN|END)_EXPORT
>> md" should leave it as-is in the exported document but that is not the
>> case. The table gets converted to HTML anyway.
>>
>> When skimming through the Org manual I found that
>> "#+(BEGIN|END)_EXPORT back-end" blocks are used to export text *only*
>> for the specified back-end. This appears in the ASCII back-end
>> documentation (does it work like this for others back-ends?).
>>
>> In a general level, is there a way to keep blocks of text completely
>> unmodified (without indentation also) on export?
>>
>>
>
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* Re: Exporting blocks of text completely verbatim
2017-02-09 14:11 Exporting blocks of text completely verbatim Vicente Vera
2017-02-09 14:27 ` John Kitchin
@ 2017-02-09 19:19 ` Charles C. Berry
2017-02-09 23:16 ` Vicente Vera
1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Charles C. Berry @ 2017-02-09 19:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vicente Vera; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Thu, 9 Feb 2017, Vicente Vera wrote:
> Hello. This discussion
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2017-02/msg00163.html
> points out that Org tables are converted to HTML tables when exporting
> through "ox-md". Leaving Markdown-related issues aside, I've stumbled
> upon this problem a while back.
>
> It is suggested that wrapping the table within a "#+(BEGIN|END)_EXPORT
> md" should leave it as-is in the exported document but that is not the
> case. The table gets converted to HTML anyway.
>
Not in recent versions of org. Here is an example of a table that is
exported as a table without any html-ization:
#+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :results raw
(org-export-string-as
"
,#+begin_export md
| a |
| b |
,#+end_export"
'md t)
#+END_SRC
#+RESULTS:
| a |
| b |
Of course, the comma escapes are stripped before `org-export-string-as'
sees the string.
HTH,
Chuck
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2017-02-09 19:19 ` Charles C. Berry
@ 2017-02-09 23:16 ` Vicente Vera
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From: Vicente Vera @ 2017-02-09 23:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Charles C. Berry; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
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You're absolutely right. The MWE I made had a nasty typo that blew
everything up! I'm sorry for the noise.
The information in the manual still looks misleading to me:
#+BEGIN_EXPORT ascii
All lines in this block will appear only when using this back-end.
#+END_EXPORT
(Taken from "12.7 ASCII/Latin-1/UTF-8 export")
This doesn't seem to be related to verbatim text.
2017-02-09 19:19 GMT+00:00 Charles C. Berry <ccberry@ucsd.edu>:
> On Thu, 9 Feb 2017, Vicente Vera wrote:
>
> Hello. This discussion
>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2017-02/msg00163.html
>> points out that Org tables are converted to HTML tables when exporting
>> through "ox-md". Leaving Markdown-related issues aside, I've stumbled
>> upon this problem a while back.
>>
>> It is suggested that wrapping the table within a "#+(BEGIN|END)_EXPORT
>> md" should leave it as-is in the exported document but that is not the
>> case. The table gets converted to HTML anyway.
>>
>>
> Not in recent versions of org. Here is an example of a table that is
> exported as a table without any html-ization:
>
> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :results raw
> (org-export-string-as
> "
> ,#+begin_export md
> | a |
> | b |
> ,#+end_export"
> 'md t)
>
> #+END_SRC
>
> #+RESULTS:
> | a |
> | b |
>
>
> Of course, the comma escapes are stripped before `org-export-string-as'
> sees the string.
>
> HTH,
>
> Chuck
>
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