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From: Federico Beffa <beffa@ieee.org>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Cc: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] org.el: make org-paragraph-fill ignore \[...\] regions starting and ending a line
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 20:27:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKrPhPOhBeeOyBMbdRttym688c5Zz2kyEgNv=OuWYnWSin9aZQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mwbbp45b.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>

On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:
> Federico Beffa <beffa@ieee.org> writes:
>
>> to help me understand what kind of problems one could face with HTML (or
>> another back-end), could you give a concrete example?
>
> line 1
> line 2
> \[1+1\]
>
> ==>
>
> <p>
> line 1
> line 2
> <img... />
> </p>
>
> whereas
>
> line 1
> line 2
> \begin{equation*}
> 1+1
> \end{equation*}
>
> ==>
>
> <p>
> line 1
> line 2
> </p>
>
> <p>
> <img ... />
> </p>
>
> IOW, there are two different structures in the document:
>
>   ((paragraph latex))
>
>   vs
>
>   ((paragraph) (latex))
>
> even though M-q cannot tell that difference (with your proposal, the
> behaviour would be the same in both cases).

The example highlight the difference that I suggested to remove in the
very first place (by making \[...\] an environment). This was rejected
to preserve backward compatibility and that's fine. So I moved on to a
second proposal: modify the paragraph filling function.

Didn't the following comment in your previous reply refer to the
second proposal?

> Ignoring \[...\] when filling the paragraph is misleading. You may
> believe the object doesn't belong to the paragraph at all. I think M-q
> should, on the contrary, give clues about the structure of the document.
>
> Also, it doesn't make a difference when exporting to LaTeX, but it might
> in back-ends with a different definition for paragraphs (e.g. HTML).

From your sentence in your last reply:
   "... even though M-q cannot tell that difference (with your proposal,
   the behaviour would be the same in both cases)."
I understand that there is no technical deficiency in it. Am I
therefore correct in saying that if you prefer not to include this
proposal in org-mode it isn't for technical reasons but it is a matter
of opinion/taste?

I would like to know, because in any case I would like to use the
proposed filling function in my copy of org-mode and if you see
technical problems/errors I very much would like to be aware of them
and, if possible, avoid/correct them.

Regards,
Federico

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-11 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-10 13:13 [PATCH] org.el: make org-paragraph-fill ignore \[...\] regions starting and ending a line Federico Beffa
2014-08-11 13:06 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-08-11 18:27   ` Federico Beffa [this message]
2014-08-11 19:43     ` Rasmus
2014-08-11 20:44       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-08-16  7:50         ` Federico Beffa
2014-08-16  9:46           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-08-11 20:40     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-08-16  7:38       ` Federico Beffa
2014-08-28 10:10         ` Nicolas Goaziou
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-08-10 13:15 Federico Beffa
2014-08-07 13:56 Federico Beffa
2014-08-05 21:45 Federico Beffa
2014-08-09  8:00 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-08-09 10:20   ` Federico Beffa
2014-08-09 23:20     ` Nicolas Goaziou

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