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From: "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com>
To: John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
Cc: Vikas Rawal <vikasrawal@gmail.com>,
	org-mode-email <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [oc] provide style/citation preview?
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 13:48:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF-FPGNPf9=HHK9FxZ0-92xGqxtouGWGZdNBcVDVms-qrTDiTQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m27d8iur8a.fsf@andrew.cmu.edu>

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On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 8:55 AM John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
wrote:

> I think this kind of preview is well-suited for external packages.

You may be right.

> There is a subtle point I ran into with this preview approach though,
> and that is what is the backend export you want to see? People expect
> one source (org) to export to different backends, and even use one
> source to make a PDF and HTML (and maybe others). Now it also possible
> to use different citation styles for different backends, and the
> backends may use different citation processors (e.g. bib(la)tex or CSL).
> I felt this was too complex to try to get right in one package. External
> packages could provide any subset of these they want, e.g. the way
> https://github.com/andras-simonyi/org-cite-csl-activate does. My opinion
> of course.

oc-csl-activate uses org-cite-csl--fallback-style-file for the preview
style, but also has a org-cite-csl-activate-use-document-style defcustom to
optionally override that. A LaTeX preview wouldn't need this.

Seems more generally a user would need to be able to specify what the
export target is.

But I guess per your point, one could do configuration by simply selecting
whatever preferred activate processor. So, for example, we could have one
for latex preview.

> I think the basic CSL styled citation tooltip that is independent of the
> final state is a good compromise. The point is to give enough context
> about the key to tell you what it is without visiting the source, and if
> you need more, you go visit the source (bibtex file, org file, etc.).

Indeed.

Bruce

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      reply	other threads:[~2022-03-25 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-24 13:46 [oc] provide style/citation preview? Bruce D'Arcus
     [not found] ` <CALtzAB3Wh9dp_5ik3wN5JA2WmYb-cOoJ7AEKKkUfTXRuKC_5qQ@mail.gmail.com>
2022-03-24 16:32   ` Fwd: " Vikas Rawal
2022-03-24 16:49     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-24 23:25       ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-25 12:43       ` John Kitchin
2022-03-25 17:48         ` Bruce D'Arcus [this message]

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