* exporting - filtering @ 2008-07-21 23:06 Richard G Riley 2008-07-21 23:20 ` Russell Adams 2008-09-15 8:22 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Richard G Riley @ 2008-07-21 23:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: org-mode When publishing/exporting can I limit certain sections to only exported if they are tagged for export? e.g I have a normal org mode hierarchy for my web page but then import a task based org file and then only have some of those published? If not I think it would be nice addition some time in the future. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: exporting - filtering 2008-07-21 23:06 exporting - filtering Richard G Riley @ 2008-07-21 23:20 ` Russell Adams 2008-07-21 23:36 ` Richard G Riley 2008-09-15 8:22 ` Carsten Dominik 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Russell Adams @ 2008-07-21 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 01:06:57AM +0200, Richard G Riley wrote: > > When publishing/exporting can I limit certain sections to only exported > if they are tagged for export? e.g I have a normal org mode hierarchy > for my web page but then import a task based org file and then only have > some of those published? If not I think it would be nice addition some > time in the future. That sounds like a neat idea. You can always open a portion of the tree in another window ( C-c C-x b ) and then hit export, I do that all the time. I do think it would be interesting if a property could modify whether or not to include an item (or its children) in export. Ideas? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Russell Adams RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com PGP Key ID: 0x1160DCB3 http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/ Fingerprint: 1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F 66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: exporting - filtering 2008-07-21 23:20 ` Russell Adams @ 2008-07-21 23:36 ` Richard G Riley 2008-07-23 23:22 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Richard G Riley @ 2008-07-21 23:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Russell Adams <RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.Com> writes: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 01:06:57AM +0200, Richard G Riley wrote: >> >> When publishing/exporting can I limit certain sections to only exported >> if they are tagged for export? e.g I have a normal org mode hierarchy >> for my web page but then import a task based org file and then only have >> some of those published? If not I think it would be nice addition some >> time in the future. > > That sounds like a neat idea. You can always open a portion of the > tree in another window ( C-c C-x b ) and then hit export, I do that > all the time. > > I do think it would be interesting if a property could modify whether > or not to include an item (or its children) in export. > > Ideas? The main reason of course is to filter out the dross from pages of tasks and notes. Something like a property on #include which specifies the tag to INCLUDE in the export. e.g #+import "~/orgfiles/tasks.org" includetag:export-web recursive:no or somesuch. Maybe simpler are properties on the top of a org file of the form #+export-tag: export-web Since #import currently does not check for a timestamp it tends not to get republished unless the parent file is changed. So a top property might be better so any "lists" imported from ones tasks is really a link click away (normal org link). I dont know how practical these ideas are but maybe they can start the ball rolling or prompt someone to suggest an existing method? Having to manually open a tree portion and exporting it isnt really practical when using project publishing. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: exporting - filtering 2008-07-21 23:36 ` Richard G Riley @ 2008-07-23 23:22 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-07-23 23:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard G Riley; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hi I do like the idea of a tag for selecting the subtrees that should be exported. I will not have time to implement this before september. However, if someone wants to try: `org-export-preprocess-hook' runs in a temporary buffer containing the document to export. You could use org-map-entry to iterate over the trees in that buffer and kill those that do not have the tag...... - Carsten On Jul 21, 2008, at 4:36 PM, Richard G Riley wrote: > Russell Adams <RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.Com> writes: > >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 01:06:57AM +0200, Richard G Riley wrote: >>> >>> When publishing/exporting can I limit certain sections to only >>> exported >>> if they are tagged for export? e.g I have a normal org mode >>> hierarchy >>> for my web page but then import a task based org file and then >>> only have >>> some of those published? If not I think it would be nice addition >>> some >>> time in the future. >> >> That sounds like a neat idea. You can always open a portion of the >> tree in another window ( C-c C-x b ) and then hit export, I do that >> all the time. >> >> I do think it would be interesting if a property could modify whether >> or not to include an item (or its children) in export. >> >> Ideas? > > > The main reason of course is to filter out the dross from pages of > tasks > and notes. > > Something like a property on #include which specifies the tag to > INCLUDE > in the export. > > e.g > > #+import "~/orgfiles/tasks.org" includetag:export-web recursive:no > > or somesuch. > > Maybe simpler are properties on the top of a org file of the form > > #+export-tag: export-web > > Since #import currently does not check for a timestamp it tends not to > get republished unless the parent file is changed. So a top property > might be better so any "lists" imported from ones tasks is really a > link > click away (normal org link). > > I dont know how practical these ideas are but maybe they can start the > ball rolling or prompt someone to suggest an existing method? Having > to > manually open a tree portion and exporting it isnt really practical > when using > project publishing. > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: exporting - filtering 2008-07-21 23:06 exporting - filtering Richard G Riley 2008-07-21 23:20 ` Russell Adams @ 2008-09-15 8:22 ` Carsten Dominik 2008-09-15 10:57 ` Richard G Riley 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-09-15 8:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard G Riley; +Cc: org-mode Hi Richard, On Jul 22, 2008, at 1:06 AM, Richard G Riley wrote: > > When publishing/exporting can I limit certain sections to only > exported > if they are tagged for export? e.g I have a normal org mode hierarchy > for my web page but then import a task based org file and then only > have > some of those published? If not I think it would be nice addition some > time in the future. I have finally been able to get to this message, and I am wondering what the logic should be. I think it is rather straight forward to mark subtrees that should be *excluded* from export. You can, in fact, already do so by starting a tree with the COMMENT keyword, which has exactly this purpose. Granted, a tag or property might be more appropriate - the fact that it is a keyword at the beginning of the entry has more historic than practical reasons. The logic for only selecting some trees for inclusion is harder, if you think about subtrees that are not top-level. If you mark a level 5 subtree for export, what should happen to the hierarchy above it? his can get quickly very complex, so I was wondering if you have been thinking about a reasonable logic for this. - Carsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: exporting - filtering 2008-09-15 8:22 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2008-09-15 10:57 ` Richard G Riley 2008-09-16 12:07 ` Carsten Dominik 2008-09-17 11:49 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Richard G Riley @ 2008-09-15 10:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: org-mode, Richard G Riley Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes: > Hi Richard, > > On Jul 22, 2008, at 1:06 AM, Richard G Riley wrote: > >> >> When publishing/exporting can I limit certain sections to only >> exported >> if they are tagged for export? e.g I have a normal org mode hierarchy >> for my web page but then import a task based org file and then only >> have >> some of those published? If not I think it would be nice addition some >> time in the future. > > I have finally been able to get to this message, and I am wondering > what the logic should be. I think it is rather straight forward to > mark subtrees that should be *excluded* from export. You can, in > fact, already do so by starting a tree with the COMMENT keyword, which How does this affect agenda generation? > has exactly this purpose. Granted, a tag or property might be more > appropriate - the fact that it is a keyword at the beginning of the > entry has more historic than practical reasons. > > The logic for only selecting some trees for inclusion is harder, if > you think about subtrees that are not top-level. If you mark a level > 5 subtree for export, what should happen to the hierarchy above it? > his can get quickly very complex, so I was wondering if you have been > thinking about a reasonable logic for this. The way I personally see the html export is for publication of facts, figures and ideas. And I tend to find very few of my entries in my org files are of enough quality in terms of content and format to be published. Assuming we mark/tag for export and to answer your final question: If you mark a level five level item for export then you simply export all headers for its level the other levels before hand. Tagging for export is nice since you can have a section where the top level is tagged for export and all items inherit it too. So two tags would be ideal export and no_export (or something more ORGish since you might with to temporarily repress the publication of certain items in an exported block (all tagged as export thanks to the tags inheritance mechanism). > - Carsten -- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: exporting - filtering 2008-09-15 10:57 ` Richard G Riley @ 2008-09-16 12:07 ` Carsten Dominik 2008-09-17 11:49 ` Carsten Dominik 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-09-16 12:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard G Riley; +Cc: org-mode On Sep 15, 2008, at 12:57 PM, Richard G Riley wrote: > Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes: > >> Hi Richard, >> >> On Jul 22, 2008, at 1:06 AM, Richard G Riley wrote: >> >>> >>> When publishing/exporting can I limit certain sections to only >>> exported >>> if they are tagged for export? e.g I have a normal org mode >>> hierarchy >>> for my web page but then import a task based org file and then only >>> have >>> some of those published? If not I think it would be nice addition >>> some >>> time in the future. >> >> I have finally been able to get to this message, and I am wondering >> what the logic should be. I think it is rather straight forward to >> mark subtrees that should be *excluded* from export. You can, in >> fact, already do so by starting a tree with the COMMENT keyword, >> which > > How does this affect agenda generation? Point taken, indeed, comments also do not contribute to the agenda. I'll look into the tags idea. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: exporting - filtering 2008-09-15 10:57 ` Richard G Riley 2008-09-16 12:07 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2008-09-17 11:49 ` Carsten Dominik 2008-09-17 12:42 ` Giovanni Ridolfi 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-09-17 11:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard G Riley; +Cc: org-mode On Sep 15, 2008, at 12:57 PM, Richard G Riley wrote: > Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes: > >> Hi Richard, >> >> On Jul 22, 2008, at 1:06 AM, Richard G Riley wrote: >> >>> >>> When publishing/exporting can I limit certain sections to only >>> exported >>> if they are tagged for export? e.g I have a normal org mode >>> hierarchy >>> for my web page but then import a task based org file and then only >>> have >>> some of those published? If not I think it would be nice addition >>> some >>> time in the future. >> >> I have finally been able to get to this message, and I am wondering >> what the logic should be. I think it is rather straight forward to >> mark subtrees that should be *excluded* from export. You can, in >> fact, already do so by starting a tree with the COMMENT keyword, >> which > > How does this affect agenda generation? > >> has exactly this purpose. Granted, a tag or property might be more >> appropriate - the fact that it is a keyword at the beginning of the >> entry has more historic than practical reasons. >> >> The logic for only selecting some trees for inclusion is harder, if >> you think about subtrees that are not top-level. If you mark a level >> 5 subtree for export, what should happen to the hierarchy above it? >> his can get quickly very complex, so I was wondering if you have been >> thinking about a reasonable logic for this. > > The way I personally see the html export is for publication of facts, > figures and ideas. And I tend to find very few of my entries in my org > files are of enough quality in terms of content and format to be > published. > > Assuming we mark/tag for export and to answer your final question: > > If you mark a level five level item for export then you simply export > all headers for its level the other levels before hand. > > Tagging for export is nice since you can have a section where the top > level is tagged for export and all items inherit it too. So two tags > would be ideal export and no_export (or something more ORGish since > you > might with to temporarily repress the publication of certain items > in an > exported block (all tagged as export thanks to the tags inheritance > mechanism). Using tags for selective export is now up in the git repo, and will be part of release 6.7 later this week. - Carsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: exporting - filtering 2008-09-17 11:49 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2008-09-17 12:42 ` Giovanni Ridolfi 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Giovanni Ridolfi @ 2008-09-17 12:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: org-mode --- Mer 17/9/08, Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl> ha scritto: > part of release 6.7 later this week. I mean, 6.07, ;-) cheers, Giovanni __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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