Re: RE Re: Issues with org-mode and LaTeX export.

From: Scot Becker <scot.becker@gmail.com>
To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com
Cc: tassilo@member.fsf.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, gerald.jean@dgag.ca
Subject: Re: RE Re: Issues with org-mode and LaTeX export.
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 19:03:50 +0100	[thread overview]
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I do hear you about not wanting to add maintenance overhead to yourself, but
when they install the new Emacs, you even then may find you need a more
recent recent org-mode release in your home directory.  It does come with
Emacs, to be sure, but they've been quite conservative about their cutoff
dates, so even a brand new Emacs version typically has an org-mode version
which has been significantly improved upon.

sb

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> wrote:

> gerald.jean@dgag.ca wrote:
>
> > I tried this:
> >
> > #+LATEX_HEADER: "\usepackage{longtable}"
> >
> > No effects?
> >
>
> AFAIK, the quotes are not necessary, but the reason it's not
> working is indeed that your version of org-mode doesn't know about
> LATEX_HEADER at all.
>
> It was implemented with this commit:
>
> commit 20364d043a51c3c71493369c58a43b49566dbdaa
> Author: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
> Date:   Thu Oct 2 15:00:14 2008 +0200
>
>    Implement #+LATEX_HEADER special.
>
>    Proposed by Austin Frank and apparently also by Russel Adams.
>
>
> which I believe appeared in
>
>    release_6.08
>
> Note that the commit is two years old.
>
> > >
> > > > I also looked at the manual to selectively export a part of the org
> > > > file.  They talk about the "org-export-select-tags" and
> > > > "org-export-exclude-tags"; these variables don't even exist?
> > >
> > > They do.  Are you still using that old org version 5.x?  If so, well,
> > > then maybe there were no such variables.  And somewhen in org version
> > > 6.x the export facilities were completely rewritten, so I guess you are
> > > pretty alone with your problems unless you get a recent version.
> >
> > For the time being I am stuck with this version.  I am sending a request
> to
> > our IT group to upgrade Emacs to the most recent version for the version
> of
> > RedHat we have, this should have a more recent version of org-mode, if I
> am
> > lucky that should be done in a couple weeks.  In the mean time I will
> > manually add, or exclude, what I want from the exported "*.tex" file.
> >
>
> A couple of weeks?!?  And you are not even sure which version of emacs
> and org-mode you are going to get? I'd say, build your own: get
> emacs/orgmode from the git mirror and build it yourself, install it in
> your home directory if necessary. Even if it takes you a week or two to
> get it done, at the end of it you'll be much better off at the end of
> it.
>
> If you have a community of users, this might be more difficult, but maybe
> you can exercise concerted pressure on your IT dept: they might be more
> willing to listen to ten people than to one.
>
> If you are reasonably comfortable with git and make, it should only take
> an hour or so to update/build/install; and assuming you stay with
> "released" versions, you will only have to do that every couple of
> months.
>
> In addition, depending on what emacs version you have, you might be able
> to run recent org-mode even if your emas is old (certainly on emacs 23,
> probably on emacs 22, and just maybe on emacs 21, although I'm not sure
> about these). That might be enough for your purposes and it reduces
> time requirements to just a few minutes every month or two.
>
> FWIW, the only use I have of whatever emacs gets installed with a system
> is to bootstrap the latest emacs/orgmode: after that, it's deleted (or
> at least, never used again).
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
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