* hiding footnotes @ 2012-11-28 13:03 42 147 2012-11-28 14:17 ` John Hendy 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: 42 147 @ 2012-11-28 13:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 133 bytes --] Self-explanatory. I like how org-mode handles footnotes, but I want an option to hide them while reading (for they are distracting). [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 136 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding footnotes 2012-11-28 13:03 hiding footnotes 42 147 @ 2012-11-28 14:17 ` John Hendy 2012-11-28 15:19 ` 42 147 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: John Hendy @ 2012-11-28 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 42 147; +Cc: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 457 bytes --] On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 7:03 AM, 42 147 <aeuster@gmail.com> wrote: > Self-explanatory. I like how org-mode handles footnotes, but I want an > option to hide them while reading (for they are distracting). Reading what? The org file or resultant PDF? If you're talking about the org file, I don't think there's going to be a way, but I could be wrong. If you can give more specifics, that would be helpful -- is it the [fn:1] you find distracting? John [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 775 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding footnotes 2012-11-28 14:17 ` John Hendy @ 2012-11-28 15:19 ` 42 147 2012-11-28 17:26 ` Jambunathan K 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: 42 147 @ 2012-11-28 15:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: John Hendy; +Cc: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1941 bytes --] Reading an org-file. I should note, it is the highlighting that is the problem, not the footnote itself. If I could somehow toggle it to the color of the text, that would solve my problem. For example, the [16] here is a distraction: * Chomsky ** Books *** Deterring Democracy **** Chapter 1. Cold War: Fact and Fancy ****** (1) The Cold War as Ideological Construct ****** Overview ****** The Orthodox Version ******* No Justification Provided ******** Worship Of The State As Secular Religion Though the sophistication of traditional theology is lacking, the similarity of themes and style is striking. It reveals the extent to which worship of the state has become a secular religion for which the intellectuals serve as priesthood. The more primitive sectors of Western culture go further, fostering forms of idolatry in which such sacred symbols as the flag become an object of forced veneration, and the state is called upon to punish any insult to them and to compel children to pledge their devotion daily, while God and State are almost indissolubly linked in public ceremony and discourse, as in James Reston's musings on our devotion to the will of the Creator. It is perhaps not surprising that such crude fanaticism rises to such an extreme in the United States, as an antidote for the unique freedom from state coercion that has been achieved by popular struggle. [16] On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:17 AM, John Hendy <jw.hendy@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 7:03 AM, 42 147 <aeuster@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Self-explanatory. I like how org-mode handles footnotes, but I want an >> option to hide them while reading (for they are distracting). > > > > Reading what? The org file or resultant PDF? If you're talking about the > org file, I don't think there's going to be a way, but I could be wrong. If > you can give more specifics, that would be helpful -- is it the [fn:1] you > find distracting? > > > John > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2663 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding footnotes 2012-11-28 15:19 ` 42 147 @ 2012-11-28 17:26 ` Jambunathan K 2012-11-28 20:06 ` Alan L Tyree 2012-11-29 3:24 ` 42 147 0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Jambunathan K @ 2012-11-28 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 42 147; +Cc: emacs-orgmode > Reading an org-file. I should note, it is the highlighting that is the > problem, not the footnote itself. If I could somehow toggle it to the > color of the text, that would solve my problem. Put your cursor on the footnote. Then do C-u C-x = In the resulting buffer, toward the end, you will see something like this. ,---- | There are text properties here: | face org-footnote | font-lock-fontified t | font-lock-multiline t | fontified t | help-echo "Footnote reference" | keymap [Show] | mouse-face highlight | org-category "test-new" | org-no-flyspell t `---- Click on the face property (which is `org-footnote'). Click on "customize this face" link. Change the face foreground color to whatever you want. Or A fast way to do that would be M-x customize-face RET org-footnote RET You can also try M-x customize-group RET org-faces RET -- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding footnotes 2012-11-28 17:26 ` Jambunathan K @ 2012-11-28 20:06 ` Alan L Tyree 2012-11-29 3:24 ` 42 147 1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Alan L Tyree @ 2012-11-28 20:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode <SNIP> Hiding footnotes would be a great enhancement as far as I am concerned. I mean "hiding" in the same way that entities can be hidden in Auctec. Auctec allows a "fold mode" that replaces various entities with user defined symbols. For example, \label{xxx} becomes [l]; \footnote{xxxx} becomes [f]. The folded symbols are in a different face (customisable). Entities to be hidden can be user defined, so that new latex macros may be hidden. Folded objects expand when the cursor is put over them. The fold mode dramatically increases readability of the raw manuscript, particularly when there are long footnotes. #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE Documentary letters of credit are used primarily to facilitate international trade.[fn:2: Kerr J famously called the documentary letter of credit the "crankshaft of modern trade" and "the lifeblood of international commerce": RD Harbottle (Mercantile) Ltd v National Westminster Bank Ltd 1978 QB 146 at 155.] The credit will ordinarily be issued at the instigation of the purchaser of goods and the beneficiary will be the seller. The credit will call for the presentation of shipping documents, insurance policies and commercial invoices along with other more specific documents. #+END_EXAMPLE becomes #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE Documentary letters of credit are used primarily to facilitate international trade.[f] The credit will ordinarily be issued at the instigation of the purchaser of goods and the beneficiary will be the seller. The credit will call for the presentation of shipping documents, insurance policies and commercial invoices along with other more specific documents. #+END_EXAMPLE Cheers, Alan -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: 04 2748 6206 sip:172385@iptel.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding footnotes 2012-11-28 17:26 ` Jambunathan K 2012-11-28 20:06 ` Alan L Tyree @ 2012-11-29 3:24 ` 42 147 2012-11-29 3:35 ` 42 147 2012-11-29 5:00 ` Nick Dokos 1 sibling, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: 42 147 @ 2012-11-29 3:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jambunathan K; +Cc: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1416 bytes --] Very nice. However, I'd like to write a function that toggles the color value (without recourse to the customize menu), since it would be useful to highlight the footnotes from time to time. After some tests, it is clear I also disliked the underlining. On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>wrote: > > > Reading an org-file. I should note, it is the highlighting that is the > > problem, not the footnote itself. If I could somehow toggle it to the > > color of the text, that would solve my problem. > > Put your cursor on the footnote. Then do > > C-u C-x = > > In the resulting buffer, toward the end, you will see something like > this. > > ,---- > | There are text properties here: > | face org-footnote > | font-lock-fontified t > | font-lock-multiline t > | fontified t > | help-echo "Footnote reference" > | keymap [Show] > | mouse-face highlight > | org-category "test-new" > | org-no-flyspell t > `---- > > Click on the face property (which is `org-footnote'). Click on > "customize this face" link. Change the face foreground color to > whatever you want. > > Or > > A fast way to do that would be > M-x customize-face RET org-footnote RET > > You can also try > M-x customize-group RET org-faces RET > -- > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1933 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding footnotes 2012-11-29 3:24 ` 42 147 @ 2012-11-29 3:35 ` 42 147 2012-11-29 4:11 ` Alan L Tyree 2012-11-29 5:00 ` Nick Dokos 1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: 42 147 @ 2012-11-29 3:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1998 bytes --] I should add that Tyree's idea is what I was looking for originally (changing the face to the text font at least fixed readability). Ideally, instead of jumping to the footnote section, it would be collapsible / expandable, much like headings. Right now having a dedicated footnote section is better than having the footnote embedded in the body of the text as a giant distracting parenthesis. That is the worst functionality among the options here. On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:24 PM, 42 147 <aeuster@gmail.com> wrote: > Very nice. > > However, I'd like to write a function that toggles the color value (without > recourse to the customize menu), since it would be useful to highlight the > footnotes from time to time. > > After some tests, it is clear I also disliked the underlining. > > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> > Reading an org-file. I should note, it is the highlighting that is the >> > problem, not the footnote itself. If I could somehow toggle it to the >> > color of the text, that would solve my problem. >> >> Put your cursor on the footnote. Then do >> >> C-u C-x = >> >> In the resulting buffer, toward the end, you will see something like >> this. >> >> ,---- >> | There are text properties here: >> | face org-footnote >> | font-lock-fontified t >> | font-lock-multiline t >> | fontified t >> | help-echo "Footnote reference" >> | keymap [Show] >> | mouse-face highlight >> | org-category "test-new" >> | org-no-flyspell t >> `---- >> >> Click on the face property (which is `org-footnote'). Click on >> "customize this face" link. Change the face foreground color to >> whatever you want. >> >> Or >> >> A fast way to do that would be >> M-x customize-face RET org-footnote RET >> >> You can also try >> M-x customize-group RET org-faces RET >> -- >> > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2759 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding footnotes 2012-11-29 3:35 ` 42 147 @ 2012-11-29 4:11 ` Alan L Tyree 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Alan L Tyree @ 2012-11-29 4:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode On 29/11/12 14:35, 42 147 wrote: > I should add that Tyree's idea is what I was looking for originally > (changing the face to the text font at least fixed readability). > > Ideally, instead of jumping to the footnote section, it would be > collapsible / expandable, much like headings. > > Right now having a dedicated footnote section is better than having the > footnote embedded in the body of the text as a giant distracting > parenthesis. That is the worst functionality among the options here. > I admit that I didn't know about the org-footnote-section variable. That helps a lot since many of my footnotes are long (awful legal tradition!). But I still like the in-line footnote with the ability to hide a la Auctex. I've got no idea how hard it would be to implement, and I certainly don't have the skills. I'm not complaining: org is the greatest thing since sliced bread! Thanks to everyone involved. Cheers, Alan <SNIP> -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: 04 2748 6206 sip:172385@iptel.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding footnotes 2012-11-29 3:24 ` 42 147 2012-11-29 3:35 ` 42 147 @ 2012-11-29 5:00 ` Nick Dokos 2012-11-29 6:20 ` Jambunathan K 2013-02-26 18:18 ` 42 147 1 sibling, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Nick Dokos @ 2012-11-29 5:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 42 147; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Jambunathan K 42 147 <aeuster@gmail.com> wrote: > Very nice. > > However, I'd like to write a function that toggles the color value (without > recourse to the customize menu), since it would be useful to highlight the > footnotes from time to time. > Anything that can be done interactively can also be done programatically. You know what face you are dealing with, you can get its foreground color with face-foreground, and you can set it with set-face-attribute. A crude implementation to show the basic outline: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (setq org-footnote-fg-color (face-foreground 'org-footnote)) (setq org-text-fg-color (face-foreground 'default)) (defun my-toggle-footnote-fg-color () "Toggle the org-footnote face foreground color." (interactive) (let ((fg (face-foreground 'org-footnote))) (if (string-equal fg org-footnote-fg-color) (set-face-attribute 'org-footnote nil :foreground org-text-fg-color) (set-face-attribute 'org-footnote nil :foreground org-footnote-fg-color)))) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- The difficulties start (but do not end) with footnotes in all sorts of weird places (e.g. headlines) with all sorts of different fontifications. You'd want to blend the footnote with its immediate surroundings. Taking care of such situations (and various others that the above code mishandles) is left as an exercise... Nick ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding footnotes 2012-11-29 5:00 ` Nick Dokos @ 2012-11-29 6:20 ` Jambunathan K 2012-11-29 6:24 ` Jambunathan K 2012-11-29 7:40 ` 42 147 2013-02-26 18:18 ` 42 147 1 sibling, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Jambunathan K @ 2012-11-29 6:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nick Dokos; +Cc: 42 147, emacs-orgmode Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> writes: > 42 147 <aeuster@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Very nice. >> >> However, I'd like to write a function that toggles the color value (without >> recourse to the customize menu), since it would be useful to highlight the >> footnotes from time to time. >> > > Anything that can be done interactively can also be done > programatically. You know what face you are dealing with, you can get > its foreground color with face-foreground, and you can set it with > set-face-attribute. A crude implementation to show the basic outline: > > > (setq org-footnote-fg-color (face-foreground 'org-footnote)) > > (setq org-text-fg-color (face-foreground 'default)) > > (defun my-toggle-footnote-fg-color () > "Toggle the org-footnote face foreground color." > (interactive) > (let ((fg (face-foreground 'org-footnote))) > (if (string-equal fg org-footnote-fg-color) > (set-face-attribute 'org-footnote nil :foreground org-text-fg-color) > (set-face-attribute 'org-footnote nil :foreground org-footnote-fg-color)))) > > > The difficulties start (but do not end) with footnotes in all sorts of > weird places (e.g. headlines) with all sorts of different > fontifications. You'd want to blend the footnote with its immediate > surroundings. > > Taking care of such situations (and various others that the above code > mishandles) is left as an exercise... Install the following defun, put the cursor on fontified text and do M-x toggle-face. (defun toggle-face (&optional face-from) (interactive (list (read-face-name "Face" (face-at-point)))) (let ((f (assq face-from face-remapping-alist)) (face-to 'default)) (if f (setq face-remapping-alist (delq f face-remapping-alist)) (push (cons face-from face-to) face-remapping-alist)))) See also (info "(elisp) Face Remapping") > Nick > > -- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding footnotes 2012-11-29 6:20 ` Jambunathan K @ 2012-11-29 6:24 ` Jambunathan K 2012-11-29 7:40 ` 42 147 1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Jambunathan K @ 2012-11-29 6:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes: > Install the following defun, put the cursor on fontified text and do M-x > toggle-face. > > (defun toggle-face (&optional face-from) > (interactive (list (read-face-name "Face" (face-at-point)))) > (let ((f (assq face-from face-remapping-alist)) > (face-to 'default)) > (if f (setq face-remapping-alist (delq f face-remapping-alist)) > (push (cons face-from face-to) face-remapping-alist)))) > > See also (info "(elisp) Face Remapping") For the benefit of novice readers, you need to try M-x toggle-face RET and M-x toggle-face RET twice in succession. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding footnotes 2012-11-29 6:20 ` Jambunathan K 2012-11-29 6:24 ` Jambunathan K @ 2012-11-29 7:40 ` 42 147 1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: 42 147 @ 2012-11-29 7:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jambunathan K; +Cc: Nick Dokos, emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2530 bytes --] I added this to my .emacs: (defun t-face () "to pass org-footnote automatically to toggle-face" (interactive) (toggle-face 'org-footnote)) (defun toggle-face (&optional face-from) (interactive (list (read-face-name "Face" (face-at-point)))) (let ((f (assq face-from face-remapping-alist)) (face-to 'default)) (if f (setq face-remapping-alist (delq f face-remapping-alist)) (push (cons face-from face-to) face-remapping-alist)))) On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 1:20 AM, Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>wrote: > Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> writes: > > > 42 147 <aeuster@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Very nice. > >> > >> However, I'd like to write a function that toggles the color value > (without > >> recourse to the customize menu), since it would be useful to highlight > the > >> footnotes from time to time. > >> > > > > Anything that can be done interactively can also be done > > programatically. You know what face you are dealing with, you can get > > its foreground color with face-foreground, and you can set it with > > set-face-attribute. A crude implementation to show the basic outline: > > > > > > (setq org-footnote-fg-color (face-foreground 'org-footnote)) > > > > (setq org-text-fg-color (face-foreground 'default)) > > > > (defun my-toggle-footnote-fg-color () > > "Toggle the org-footnote face foreground color." > > (interactive) > > (let ((fg (face-foreground 'org-footnote))) > > (if (string-equal fg org-footnote-fg-color) > > (set-face-attribute 'org-footnote nil :foreground > org-text-fg-color) > > (set-face-attribute 'org-footnote nil :foreground > org-footnote-fg-color)))) > > > > > > The difficulties start (but do not end) with footnotes in all sorts of > > weird places (e.g. headlines) with all sorts of different > > fontifications. You'd want to blend the footnote with its immediate > > surroundings. > > > > Taking care of such situations (and various others that the above code > > mishandles) is left as an exercise... > > Install the following defun, put the cursor on fontified text and do M-x > toggle-face. > > (defun toggle-face (&optional face-from) > (interactive (list (read-face-name "Face" (face-at-point)))) > (let ((f (assq face-from face-remapping-alist)) > (face-to 'default)) > (if f (setq face-remapping-alist (delq f face-remapping-alist)) > (push (cons face-from face-to) face-remapping-alist)))) > > See also (info "(elisp) Face Remapping") > > > > > Nick > > > > > > -- > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3441 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding footnotes 2012-11-29 5:00 ` Nick Dokos 2012-11-29 6:20 ` Jambunathan K @ 2013-02-26 18:18 ` 42 147 2013-02-26 18:19 ` 42 147 1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: 42 147 @ 2013-02-26 18:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: nicholas.dokos; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Jambunathan K [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1628 bytes --] Set it to 20, thanks. Hopefully I never need to hit the 26 limit. 2012/11/29 Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> > 42 147 <aeuster@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Very nice. > > > > However, I'd like to write a function that toggles the color value > (without > > recourse to the customize menu), since it would be useful to highlight > the > > footnotes from time to time. > > > > Anything that can be done interactively can also be done > programatically. You know what face you are dealing with, you can get > its foreground color with face-foreground, and you can set it with > set-face-attribute. A crude implementation to show the basic outline: > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > (setq org-footnote-fg-color (face-foreground 'org-footnote)) > > (setq org-text-fg-color (face-foreground 'default)) > > (defun my-toggle-footnote-fg-color () > "Toggle the org-footnote face foreground color." > (interactive) > (let ((fg (face-foreground 'org-footnote))) > (if (string-equal fg org-footnote-fg-color) > (set-face-attribute 'org-footnote nil :foreground > org-text-fg-color) > (set-face-attribute 'org-footnote nil :foreground > org-footnote-fg-color)))) > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > The difficulties start (but do not end) with footnotes in all sorts of > weird places (e.g. headlines) with all sorts of different > fontifications. You'd want to blend the footnote with its immediate > surroundings. > > Taking care of such situations (and various others that the above code > mishandles) is left as an exercise... > > Nick > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2185 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: hiding footnotes 2013-02-26 18:18 ` 42 147 @ 2013-02-26 18:19 ` 42 147 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: 42 147 @ 2013-02-26 18:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: nicholas.dokos; +Cc: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1744 bytes --] Oops, wrong thread. 2013/2/26 42 147 <aeuster@gmail.com> > Set it to 20, thanks. > > Hopefully I never need to hit the 26 limit. > > > 2012/11/29 Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> > >> 42 147 <aeuster@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Very nice. >> > >> > However, I'd like to write a function that toggles the color value >> (without >> > recourse to the customize menu), since it would be useful to highlight >> the >> > footnotes from time to time. >> > >> >> Anything that can be done interactively can also be done >> programatically. You know what face you are dealing with, you can get >> its foreground color with face-foreground, and you can set it with >> set-face-attribute. A crude implementation to show the basic outline: >> >> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >> (setq org-footnote-fg-color (face-foreground 'org-footnote)) >> >> (setq org-text-fg-color (face-foreground 'default)) >> >> (defun my-toggle-footnote-fg-color () >> "Toggle the org-footnote face foreground color." >> (interactive) >> (let ((fg (face-foreground 'org-footnote))) >> (if (string-equal fg org-footnote-fg-color) >> (set-face-attribute 'org-footnote nil :foreground >> org-text-fg-color) >> (set-face-attribute 'org-footnote nil :foreground >> org-footnote-fg-color)))) >> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >> >> The difficulties start (but do not end) with footnotes in all sorts of >> weird places (e.g. headlines) with all sorts of different >> fontifications. You'd want to blend the footnote with its immediate >> surroundings. >> >> Taking care of such situations (and various others that the above code >> mishandles) is left as an exercise... >> >> Nick >> > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2530 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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