From: Ernesto Durante <stobossey@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: babel: ob-C with Visual C++ and compilation-mode
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 13:19:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vbpq6o4w.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53F08FE3.20506@free.fr> (Thierry Banel's message of "Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:20:03 +0200")
Thierry Banel <tbanelwebmin@free.fr> writes:
> Le 15/08/2014 19:22, Ernesto Durante a écrit :
>
> True.
> And to achieve that the :includes header tag was added:
> #+BEGIN_SRC C++ :includes <stdio.h>
>
> (Because otherwise a #include statement would end up in the main() function)
>
> For me this is already a questionable distortion of C++.
>
> The Emacs C++-mode does no attempt at hiding parts of a C++ file.
> It just display the file as it is, and that is good.
>
Yes, you are right.
>
> This is far too complex for me.
> I will just write down the main() function rather than learning this
> extension.
>
> But of course, I am just one user among others.
> You are another user and you feel the need for this extension,
> and this should be taken into account.
> Try the extension for yourself, then share it, and see if others like it.
Yes, you are right.
I think the problem we are trying to integrate C++/C like
Lisp,Python,Haskell or programming languages which can rely on a session
to share their content. In a way, the idea of Babel originated from such
a session oriented languages.
C++ is very different. We cannot inject codes through a online session.
It's really a non sense. C++ is constructed around the idea of a project
(or a Makefile). A typical C++ project holds header files + source files +
a main file.
As you have pointed out, the current C++ mode, is very specialized for
dealing with a main file. It's right name should be something
like :mainC++ .
So how to deal with a C++ project ?
I enjoy programming in Qt and I have been trying to integrate into Babel, a Qmake
project. I finally end up by creating three specialized C++ mode:
qheader, qsource and qmain. It was frustating because I couldn't reuse the
standard C++ mode and in some way the core API in ob-C.
It's my personal conclusion that orgmode gives a new light on C++/Qmake
project by making it more accessible more easy to grasp.
Does it make sense to you ?
> Thanks for all the ideas you submitted.
> Please stay involved.
> Thierry
Thank you.
Best Ernesto
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-08-18 11:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-04 16:16 babel: ob-C with Visual C++ and compilation-mode Ernesto Durante
2014-08-11 19:40 ` Thierry Banel
2014-08-12 14:24 ` Ernesto Durante
2014-08-12 22:03 ` Thierry Banel
2014-08-13 20:58 ` Ernesto Durante
2014-08-14 20:40 ` Thierry Banel
2014-08-15 17:22 ` Ernesto Durante
2014-08-17 11:20 ` Thierry Banel
2014-08-18 11:19 ` Ernesto Durante [this message]
2014-08-18 12:51 ` Eric Schulte
2014-08-24 13:05 ` Ernesto Durante
2014-08-28 14:02 ` Eric Schulte
2014-08-18 19:59 ` Thierry Banel
2014-08-20 20:40 ` Ernesto Durante
2014-08-21 19:48 ` Thierry Banel
2014-08-24 12:57 ` Ernesto Durante
2014-08-28 19:44 ` Thierry Banel
2014-08-18 2:41 ` Eric Schulte
2014-08-18 2:40 ` Eric Schulte
2014-08-23 11:03 ` Ernesto Durante
2014-08-25 16:35 ` [PATCH] " Ernesto Durante
2014-08-28 14:46 ` Eric Schulte
2014-09-10 9:27 ` Achim Gratz
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