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From: Thierry Banel <tbanelwebmin@free.fr>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: babel: ob-C with Visual C++ and compilation-mode
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 22:40:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53ED1EB0.3030500@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zjf8cdjk.fsf@gmail.com>

Le 13/08/2014 22:58, Ernesto Durante a écrit :
> Thank you Thierry for your answer and all the details. I really want to be a contributor
> and help ob-C to improve (as well as can do a modest lisper).

Any help is welcome !

> I tried to find a way to master Cx11 and babel is helping me a lot.
> I think babel can really accelerate learning and dissimation of C++.
>
> In this perspective, I have another very simple idea that I want to share
> with you. I find C++ too noisy. 

Yes, indeed.

> In the following piece of code
> I really find the presence of the main call and the return statement really annoying and useless.
>
> #+begin_src C++ :includes '(<iostream> <cassert>) :results silent
> template <typename T1, typename T2>
> auto compose(T1 t1, T2 t2) -> decltype(t1 + t2) { return t1+t2; }
>
> int main() {
>  auto d=compose(std::string("ola"),std::string("ciao")); //d's type is std::string
>  auto i=compose(4,2);
>  assert(d== std::string("olaciao") && i==6);
> return 0
> }
> #+end_src
>
> We can remove it by letting ob-C do the work by modifying the function
> org-babel-C-ensure-main-wrap. Now the code looks (according to me) easier to read
>
> #+begin_src C++ :includes '(<iostream> <cassert>) :results silent
> template <typename T1, typename T2>
> auto compose(T1 t1, T2 t2) -> decltype(t1 + t2) { return t1+t2; }
>
> template <>
> int compose(int t1,int t2) { return t1+t2; }
>
> ////main////
> auto d=compose(std::string("ola"),std::string("ciao")); //d's type is std::string
> auto i=compose(4,2);
> assert(d== std::string("olaciao") && i==6);
> #+end_src
>
> What do you think ?
>
>
Well... In this example, we go down from 9 lines to 7 lines. Ok fair.
But the price is a new syntax to learn:
 ////main////
Is it wise to add an org-mode specific syntax to C++ (which already has
a lot) ?

Being noisy is a weakness of C++.
I think it is not the responsibility of org-mode to fix that.

Now, org-mode is already able to process main()-less blocks in simple cases.

#+BEGIN_SRC C++
printf("hello\n");
#+END_SRC

If we can find a way to extend this feature to more cases,
without needing a long documentation,
then, sure, it would be a nice improvement.

Regards
Thierry

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-14 20:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-04 16:16 babel: ob-C with Visual C++ and compilation-mode Ernesto Durante
2014-08-11 19:40 ` Thierry Banel
2014-08-12 14:24   ` Ernesto Durante
2014-08-12 22:03     ` Thierry Banel
2014-08-13 20:58       ` Ernesto Durante
2014-08-14 20:40         ` Thierry Banel [this message]
2014-08-15 17:22           ` Ernesto Durante
2014-08-17 11:20             ` Thierry Banel
2014-08-18 11:19               ` Ernesto Durante
2014-08-18 12:51                 ` Eric Schulte
2014-08-24 13:05                   ` Ernesto Durante
2014-08-28 14:02                     ` Eric Schulte
2014-08-18 19:59                 ` Thierry Banel
2014-08-20 20:40                   ` Ernesto Durante
2014-08-21 19:48                     ` Thierry Banel
2014-08-24 12:57                       ` Ernesto Durante
2014-08-28 19:44                         ` Thierry Banel
2014-08-18  2:41         ` Eric Schulte
2014-08-18  2:40 ` Eric Schulte
2014-08-23 11:03   ` Ernesto Durante
2014-08-25 16:35   ` [PATCH] " Ernesto Durante
2014-08-28 14:46     ` Eric Schulte
2014-09-10  9:27       ` Achim Gratz

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