* [BUG] in export to odt -
@ 2015-11-20 8:52 Rainer M Krug
2015-11-20 10:24 ` Rasmus
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From: Rainer M Krug @ 2015-11-20 8:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
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The following .org file produces an invalid .odt file upon export to odt
because of the footnote in the footnote:
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#+TITLE: Footnote in footnote produces invalid .odt
#+AUTHOR: Rainer M. Krug
* A Footnote in a Footnote
Some footnote[fn:2]
* Versions
Org-mode version 8.3.2 (release_8.3.2-161-gd2ac25 @ /Users/rainerkrug/.emacs.d/elpa/24.5/org-20151005/)
GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin15.0.0, Carbon Version 157 AppKit 1404.13) of 2015-11-03 on Rainers-MacBook-Pro.local
Libre Office: Version: 5.0.3.2
Build ID: e5f16313668ac592c1bfb310f4390624e3dbfb75
Locale: en-US (en.UTF-8)
* FOOTNOTES
[fn:2] Footnote 2[fn:1]
[fn:1] CHECK!
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
The odt is attached for reference.
Cheers,
Rainer
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[-- Type: application/octet-stream, Size: 10807 bytes --]
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--
Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)
Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa
Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
Fax : +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44
Fax (D): +49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44
email: Rainer@krugs.de
Skype: RMkrug
PGP: 0x0F52F982
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* Re: [BUG] in export to odt -
2015-11-20 8:52 [BUG] in export to odt - Rainer M Krug
@ 2015-11-20 10:24 ` Rasmus
2015-11-20 10:55 ` Rainer M Krug
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Rasmus @ 2015-11-20 10:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> writes:
> The odt is attached for reference.
Please also provide an odt document with the expected, working result.
(I could not produce such a document in LO within 20s, but perhaps it’s
possible).
Thanks,
Rasmus
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* Re: [BUG] in export to odt -
2015-11-20 10:24 ` Rasmus
@ 2015-11-20 10:55 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-11-20 11:06 ` Rasmus
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Rainer M Krug @ 2015-11-20 10:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rasmus; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
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Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
> Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> writes:
>
>> The odt is attached for reference.
>
> Please also provide an odt document with the expected, working result.
> (I could not produce such a document in LO within 20s, but perhaps it’s
> possible).
I am not a LibreOffice / MS Word person (but my co-authors but my
co-authors unfortunately are...) so I only stumbled upon this when was
asked to give them a docx... file.
I tried in LibreOffice, and indeed it does not seem to be possible. I
don't know what the convention is, but I don't like that an invald .odt
file is produced. Maybe give a warning about "incompatible features" or
just drop the footnote in the footnote?
Thanks,
Rainer
>
> Thanks,
> Rasmus
--
Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)
Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa
Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
Fax : +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44
Fax (D): +49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44
email: Rainer@krugs.de
Skype: RMkrug
PGP: 0x0F52F982
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* Re: [BUG] in export to odt -
2015-11-20 10:55 ` Rainer M Krug
@ 2015-11-20 11:06 ` Rasmus
2015-11-20 11:36 ` Rainer M Krug
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Rasmus @ 2015-11-20 11:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rainer; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> writes:
> I tried in LibreOffice, and indeed it does not seem to be possible. I
> don't know what the convention is, but I don't like that an invald .odt
> file is produced. Maybe give a warning about "incompatible features" or
> just drop the footnote in the footnote?
Dropping it is a possibility, though not a very nice one.
You can insert a cross-reference to a footnote within a footnote. But I
don’t know how to insert a footnote without also adding a reference in the
text. If the latter is possible, that way should work.
Rasmus
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* Re: [BUG] in export to odt -
2015-11-20 11:06 ` Rasmus
@ 2015-11-20 11:36 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-11-20 12:31 ` Rasmus
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Rainer M Krug @ 2015-11-20 11:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rasmus; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
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Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
> Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> writes:
>
>> I tried in LibreOffice, and indeed it does not seem to be possible. I
>> don't know what the convention is, but I don't like that an invald .odt
>> file is produced. Maybe give a warning about "incompatible features" or
>> just drop the footnote in the footnote?
>
> Dropping it is a possibility, though not a very nice one.
Agreed - for me it doesn't matter anymore, as the footnote in the
footnote was only a TODO reminder.
>
> You can insert a cross-reference to a footnote within a footnote. But I
> don’t know how to insert a footnote without also adding a reference in the
> text. If the latter is possible, that way should work.
This sounds like the way to go, but I would suggest that until there is
a solution (for this apparently not supported feature in LibreOffice?)
to either drop the footnote and give a warning in emacs, or insert the
footnote text in the footnote as verbatim text.
Cheers,
Rainer
>
> Rasmus
--
Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)
Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa
Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
Fax : +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44
Fax (D): +49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44
email: Rainer@krugs.de
Skype: RMkrug
PGP: 0x0F52F982
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* Re: [BUG] in export to odt -
2015-11-20 11:36 ` Rainer M Krug
@ 2015-11-20 12:31 ` Rasmus
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Rasmus @ 2015-11-20 12:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rainer; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, alantyree
Hi,
Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> writes:
> Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
>
>> Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> writes:
>>
>>> I tried in LibreOffice, and indeed it does not seem to be possible. I
>>> don't know what the convention is, but I don't like that an invald .odt
>>> file is produced. Maybe give a warning about "incompatible features" or
>>> just drop the footnote in the footnote?
>>
>> Dropping it is a possibility, though not a very nice one.
>
> Agreed - for me it doesn't matter anymore, as the footnote in the
> footnote was only a TODO reminder.
We support it in html and latex so we should not take this decision
lightly.
>> You can insert a cross-reference to a footnote within a footnote. But I
>> don’t know how to insert a footnote without also adding a reference in the
>> text. If the latter is possible, that way should work.
>
> This sounds like the way to go, but I would suggest that until there is
> a solution (for this apparently not supported feature in LibreOffice?)
> to either drop the footnote and give a warning in emacs, or insert the
> footnote text in the footnote as verbatim text.
I would like to see if someone who knows Libreoffice well will chime in.
I’m sure it’s possible somehow.
I have put Alan in the Cc as he has previously uncovered amazing options
in LO. Alan: we want to be produce an odt document that mimics something
like the following in LO:
X[fn:1]
[fn:1] Y[fn:2]
[fn:2] Z
Worst case we can check the ODF specification which is sort of readable.
Otherwise, we’ll have to throw a warning. (Error isn’t good here).
Thanks,
Rasmus
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