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From: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>
To: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>
Cc: Michael Brand <michael.ch.brand@gmail.com>,
	Org Mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: link interfering with brackets when abbreviated
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 11:28:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ppm8rgrf.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vbw11o3q.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (Bastien's message of "Wed, 26 Feb 2014 23:54:49 +0100")

Hello,

Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:

>> For example, white spaces after an object still belong to an
>> object.
>
> Well, this is counterintuitive.

So they should belong to the next object? I don't find it more
intuitive. Anyway, it's an internal representation for white spaces so
it doesn't matter here. See next answer.

>> So in the following case:
>>
>>   [[http://orgmode.org]]   [[http://duckduckgo.com]]
>>
>> using C-c C-o between the two links will open the first one, but there:
>>
>>   [[http://orgmode.org]] and [[http://duckduckgo.com]]
>>
>> C-c C-o on the "and" will open the second one.
>
> This current behavior is surprising too here, and only predictable for
> users who know that whitespaces are part of the previous object -- i.e.
> nobody.

That's not a problem, it is easy to remove this. C-c C-o will do nothing
on white spaces after an object.

>> Also in the following example:
>>
>>   [fn:1] This is some text [[http://orgmode.org]]
>>
>> C-c C-o on "some" currently triggers `org-footnote-action' since point
>> is in a footnote definition.
>
> Which is counterintuitive too!

It was part of the specs of the _previous_ implementation. I didn't
change anything here.

But it can be removed.

>> But with the behaviour you describe, it would be hard to predict
>> whether it should move to the link or still open the footnote.
>
> Let me describe the behavior I favor:
>
>   C-c C-o opens the link at point (i.e. "the link that the cursor is
>   visibly on")

This is already the case (minus the trailing spaces situation)

> or the next link on the same line.

Not really possible, as explained before. And not intuitive, IMO.

>   When on a headline

This is the case.

> and if there are several links on the same line, prompt the user for
> which one she wants to visit.

Come on. This wasn't done even in the previous implementation.

> I find it very simple and predictable.

The only really predictable behaviour is: "open the link under point".
Everything else is arguable.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-27 10:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-03 12:11 link interfering with brackets when abbreviated Michael Brand
2014-02-26 15:10 ` Michael Brand
2014-02-26 15:25   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-02-26 15:44     ` Michael Brand
2014-02-26 15:54       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-02-26 16:22         ` Michael Brand
2014-02-26 16:41           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-02-26 17:03             ` Michael Brand
2014-02-26 17:20               ` Bastien
2014-02-26 19:02                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-02-26 22:54                   ` Bastien
2014-02-27 10:28                     ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2014-02-27 11:04                       ` Bastien
2014-02-27 20:01                       ` Michael Brand
2014-02-27 22:08                         ` Bastien
2014-02-27 23:43                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-03-01 18:44                             ` Yasushi SHOJI
2014-03-01 20:20                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-03-01 20:54                                 ` Bastien
2014-03-01 20:57                                   ` Bastien
2014-03-01 21:35                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-03-01 21:50                                     ` Bastien
2014-03-01 22:14                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-03-02 13:35                                         ` Bastien
2014-03-03 14:12                                           ` Matt Lundin
2014-03-02  0:22                                 ` Yasushi SHOJI
2014-03-02  9:05                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-03-02 13:22                                     ` Bastien
2014-03-02 14:27                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-03-02 15:49                                         ` Bastien
2014-03-02 16:32                                           ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-03-03  3:41                                           ` Josiah Schwab
2014-03-03  5:54                                           ` Michael Brand
2014-03-03  9:50                                             ` Context of interaction vs. literal syntactic interpretation (was: link interfering with brackets when abbreviated) Bastien
2014-03-03 16:09                                               ` Context of interaction vs. literal syntactic interpretation Matt Lundin
2014-03-03 18:00                                                 ` Nick Dokos
2014-03-03 18:13                                                 ` Jonathan Leech-Pepin
2014-03-14 13:46                                                 ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-03-21  8:44                                                 ` Bastien
2014-03-21 13:17                                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-03-23 22:51                                                     ` Bastien
2014-03-24 13:12                                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-03-01 18:44                             ` link interfering with brackets when abbreviated Yasushi SHOJI
2014-02-26 17:42   ` Bastien
2014-02-26 21:15     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-02-26 22:21       ` Bastien
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-03-02 21:16 Gustav Wikström
2014-03-03  1:30 ` Ista Zahn
2014-03-03 19:33   ` Samuel Wales
2014-03-03 19:46     ` Samuel Wales
2014-03-03 22:18       ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-03-03 22:33         ` Samuel Wales
     [not found]           ` <CAJcAo8vh0F0tqgX4=gUhJoWFcAsTiwfyi7Fp=spQeoaBog1OMQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-04 12:16             ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-03-04 20:06               ` Samuel Wales
2014-03-19 11:19     ` Bastien
2014-03-03 10:58 ` Christian Moe
2014-03-03 16:11 ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-03-03 23:16 ` Robert Horn

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