From: Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
To: "T.F. Torrey" <tftorrey@tftorrey.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [new exporter] [html] Tables of Contents
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 06:03:45 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87obewm4k6.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mwugz1li.fsf@lapcat.tftorrey.com> (T. F. Torrey's message of "Wed, 06 Mar 2013 13:59:21 -0700")
Torrey
I don't mind being insulted publicly and in this mailing list. I have
weathered even better insults both on and off the list.
So you are welcome.
Jambunathan K.
tftorrey@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes:
> Hello Jambunathan,
>
> I admire your energy and coding skill, but I wish you would stop
> occupying our time with replies like this. Your tone is insulting, and
> seems deliberately so, and none of this response is helpful to the
> original thread.
>
> I won't reply to more of your posts like this, so if you don't get a
> reply, know that it's because your message was insulting and off-topic.
> I'm only sending this on the odd chance that you are not aware of what
> you are doing, in which case this might be helpful to you.
>
> If you want to follow up to this message, I invite you to do so
> off-list, where it might have been best for me to post this as well.
>
> Best regards,
> Terry
>
> Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> tftorrey@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes:
>>
>>>>> This gives a significant advantage in that authors can link to the
>>>>> various instances just by knowing their own usage. For instance, if
>>>>> they provided a top-level toc at the beginning of their book, and a
>>>>> deeper-level toc later on, they could link to each separately by id by
>>>>> knowing this plan.
>>>>
>>>> This seems like a valid use-case.
>>>>
>>>> I would recommend that you just specify just the use-case and leave out
>>>> the "how"s of implementation.
>>>>
>>>> Put your user hat and set aside the developer's hat.
>>>
>>> What a strange, semi-insulting thing to say.
>>
>> There is nothing strange in what I said. I wasn't insulting.
>>
>>> And misguided, too, as I was suggesting a design, not its
>>> implementation. As someone with all my own documents in Org and
>>> extensive experience developing XSLT and lisp to process the XHTML
>>> output of Org, I appreciate when the design of the HTML output is
>>> logical and useful.
>>
>> When you were suggesting
>>
>> #+toc: :a b :b c :c d
>>
>> that is implementation specifics and you were arguing from a HTML
>> standpoint. If you were in fact designing, you would have articulated
>> your case for other backends and how your suggested changes would impact
>> ox.el.
>>
>>> I would rather see a good design implemented in hacks than a poor design
>>> implemented in beautiful code.
>>
>> If you have better ideas, show us the patch.
>>
>> Otherwise, I suggest that you wear your user hat and place the use-case
>> before use while others can take care of the details.
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-07 0:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-04 19:57 [new exporter] [html] Tables of Contents T.F. Torrey
2013-03-04 20:30 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-03-04 23:10 ` T.F. Torrey
2013-03-05 7:53 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-03-05 20:21 ` T.F. Torrey
2013-03-06 4:17 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-06 4:36 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-06 12:04 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-06 21:37 ` T.F. Torrey
2013-03-07 7:57 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-06 9:51 ` T.F. Torrey
2013-03-06 10:10 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-06 20:59 ` T.F. Torrey
2013-03-06 22:42 ` Bastien
2013-03-07 0:27 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-07 9:10 ` Bastien
2013-03-07 9:24 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-10 5:20 ` Samuel Wales
2013-03-10 5:42 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-10 9:35 ` Bastien
2013-03-07 0:33 ` Jambunathan K [this message]
2013-03-06 10:35 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-06 21:21 ` T.F. Torrey
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