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From: Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
To: "T.F. Torrey" <tftorrey@tftorrey.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, n.goaziou@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [new exporter] [html] Tables of Contents
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:40:08 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wqtk96v3.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r4jszwj6.fsf@lapcat.tftorrey.com> (T. F. Torrey's message of "Wed, 06 Mar 2013 02:51:09 -0700")

tftorrey@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes:

>>> This gives a significant advantage in that authors can link to the
>>> various instances just by knowing their own usage.  For instance, if
>>> they provided a top-level toc at the beginning of their book, and a
>>> deeper-level toc later on, they could link to each separately by id by
>>> knowing this plan.
>>
>> This seems like a valid use-case.  
>>
>> I would recommend that you just specify just the use-case and leave out
>> the "how"s of implementation.
>>
>> Put your user hat and set aside the developer's hat.
>
> What a strange, semi-insulting thing to say.

There is nothing strange in what I said.  I wasn't insulting.

> And misguided, too, as I was suggesting a design, not its
> implementation.  As someone with all my own documents in Org and
> extensive experience developing XSLT and lisp to process the XHTML
> output of Org, I appreciate when the design of the HTML output is
> logical and useful.

When you were suggesting 

        #+toc: :a b :b c :c d

that is implementation specifics and you were arguing from a HTML
standpoint.  If you were in fact designing, you would have articulated
your case for other backends and how your suggested changes would impact
ox.el.

> I would rather see a good design implemented in hacks than a poor design
> implemented in beautiful code.

If you have better ideas, show us the patch.  

Otherwise, I suggest that you wear your user hat and place the use-case
before use while others can take care of the details.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-06 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-04 19:57 [new exporter] [html] Tables of Contents T.F. Torrey
2013-03-04 20:30 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-03-04 23:10   ` T.F. Torrey
2013-03-05  7:53     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-03-05 20:21       ` T.F. Torrey
2013-03-06  4:17         ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-06  4:36           ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-06 12:04             ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-06 21:37               ` T.F. Torrey
2013-03-07  7:57                 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-06  9:51           ` T.F. Torrey
2013-03-06 10:10             ` Jambunathan K [this message]
2013-03-06 20:59               ` T.F. Torrey
2013-03-06 22:42                 ` Bastien
2013-03-07  0:27                   ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-07  9:10                     ` Bastien
2013-03-07  9:24                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-10  5:20                   ` Samuel Wales
2013-03-10  5:42                     ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-10  9:35                     ` Bastien
2013-03-07  0:33                 ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-06 10:35             ` Jambunathan K
2013-03-06 21:21               ` T.F. Torrey

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