From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jambunathan K Subject: Re: [new exporter] [html] Tables of Contents Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 06:03:45 +0530 Message-ID: <87obewm4k6.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87wqtk96v3.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwugz1li.fsf@lapcat.tftorrey.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58387) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UDOmP-0002gp-AR for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 19:33:54 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UDOmN-0000Ir-7Y for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 19:33:53 -0500 Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com ([209.85.160.54]:55247) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UDOmN-0000Id-0l for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 19:33:51 -0500 Received: by mail-pb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id rr4so6806593pbb.13 for ; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 16:33:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87mwugz1li.fsf@lapcat.tftorrey.com> (T. F. Torrey's message of "Wed, 06 Mar 2013 13:59:21 -0700") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: "T.F. Torrey" Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Torrey I don't mind being insulted publicly and in this mailing list. I have weathered even better insults both on and off the list. So you are welcome. Jambunathan K. tftorrey@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes: > Hello Jambunathan, > > I admire your energy and coding skill, but I wish you would stop > occupying our time with replies like this. Your tone is insulting, and > seems deliberately so, and none of this response is helpful to the > original thread. > > I won't reply to more of your posts like this, so if you don't get a > reply, know that it's because your message was insulting and off-topic. > I'm only sending this on the odd chance that you are not aware of what > you are doing, in which case this might be helpful to you. > > If you want to follow up to this message, I invite you to do so > off-list, where it might have been best for me to post this as well. > > Best regards, > Terry > > Jambunathan K writes: > >> tftorrey@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes: >> >>>>> This gives a significant advantage in that authors can link to the >>>>> various instances just by knowing their own usage. For instance, if >>>>> they provided a top-level toc at the beginning of their book, and a >>>>> deeper-level toc later on, they could link to each separately by id by >>>>> knowing this plan. >>>> >>>> This seems like a valid use-case. >>>> >>>> I would recommend that you just specify just the use-case and leave out >>>> the "how"s of implementation. >>>> >>>> Put your user hat and set aside the developer's hat. >>> >>> What a strange, semi-insulting thing to say. >> >> There is nothing strange in what I said. I wasn't insulting. >> >>> And misguided, too, as I was suggesting a design, not its >>> implementation. As someone with all my own documents in Org and >>> extensive experience developing XSLT and lisp to process the XHTML >>> output of Org, I appreciate when the design of the HTML output is >>> logical and useful. >> >> When you were suggesting >> >> #+toc: :a b :b c :c d >> >> that is implementation specifics and you were arguing from a HTML >> standpoint. If you were in fact designing, you would have articulated >> your case for other backends and how your suggested changes would impact >> ox.el. >> >>> I would rather see a good design implemented in hacks than a poor design >>> implemented in beautiful code. >> >> If you have better ideas, show us the patch. >> >> Otherwise, I suggest that you wear your user hat and place the use-case >> before use while others can take care of the details. > > --